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Norcoredneck 06-10-2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinesebob (Post 659487)
what about the lids that use all of the holes around the top? How do they adjust?

No adjustment needed. seems to be right combination. But if you must they sell same plugs that Swampb uses but are furniture plugs. Works good for storage to keep critters out.
9563K64Push-in Metal Plug Plain-Steel, Fits 1/2" ID, 21/32" Head DiameterIn stock at $8.90 per PackThis product is sold in Packs of 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 659525)
I'll tell you it is a sight to behold to see the convection effect with the drum lid and my 8 vent holes swirling in the early morning of an all nighter with just my dining room light reflecting on the deck!

Oh so poetic, you should write romance novels. :biggrin:


:icon_clown:icon_clown:icon_clown
I just got the 1200th UDS thread post! Will it ever end?

wlh3 06-10-2008 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 659495)
Us it on all the Swedish Swimsuit models around my place. :biggrin:

The four legged kind :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 659525)
I'll tell you it is a sight to behold to see the convection effect with the drum lid and my 8 vent holes swirling in the early morning of an all nighter with just my dining room light reflecting on the deck!

Was wondering how long it would take you to chime in :lol:

So Swampman do you have hot spots with the 8 hole lid configuration ?

Norcoredneck 06-10-2008 08:28 PM

Busy day in the 100 acre woods.
 
So continued on UDS builds. Took lid I cut out and cut out a circle.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3076.jpg

Used it to stiffen ash pan.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3075.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3078.jpg

Bolted square fence post plate on and welded 1/2 pipe to it. Also welded 1 1/4" heavy washer to charcoal grate (to be basket) and cut out center

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3077.jpg

Will use to lift out to empty ash and lower in full charcaol basket.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3083.jpg

Now here is an added bonus.
I took a 14" wok and welded a 1/2" stud to bottom
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3079.jpg

Stud slips into pipe.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3080.jpg

Why you ask? Drip pan/water pan/heat diffuser, removable.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...IMG_3081-1.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3084.jpg

Barbarian 06-10-2008 09:12 PM

Pat you got way to much time on your hands!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the drippings dropping on the fire.

Norcoredneck 06-10-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbarian (Post 660375)
Pat you got way to much time on your hands!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the drippings dropping on the fire.

So do I but building in options. Can add this 1/2 way through cook and have drippings for gravy or? That is why it is removable. Was a second thought after pipe was made to lift out ash pan set up.

Norcoredneck 06-10-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlh3 (Post 659622)
The four legged kiind:eek:


Dude I tried to tell you those were only in your dreams!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...eck/animal.jpg

Mark 06-11-2008 08:11 AM

Pat:

Either I missed it or you didn't explain what the bottom basin is from.:confused:

Norcoredneck 06-11-2008 08:16 AM

It is a cheapy bbq from a hispanic market. @$8.

Dr_KY 06-11-2008 08:29 AM

Norco I have been using one as an ash pan for several months and it works great.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2lasxao.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/15qaems.jpg

N8man 06-11-2008 07:13 PM

Norco, you have unequivocally raised the bar in terms of UDS Fabrication Ten Fold, my Friend. The Design thus far is Quite Outstanding and Inspired.
Will you be adding this Segment of your Build to your "RedNeck Build" Thread, keeping it documented all within one Thread? Can't wait to see how it progresses from here.

radmanct 06-11-2008 07:18 PM

Can one paint the inside of a UDS? Example one that was lined but has been burned out and cleaned by a wire brush on an angle grinder.

Thanks

Bbq Bubba 06-11-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radmanct (Post 661074)
Can one paint the inside of a UDS? Example one that was lined but has been burned out and cleaned by a wire brush on an angle grinder.

Thanks

Why would you paint what you have spent so much time stripping??
The answer is no...paint and food don't mix!
When ready for seasoning, get a jar of Crisco shortening, put on a good coat on the inside of the drum and season away.
Puts a nice black coat on the bare steel that will never rust! :biggrin:

radmanct 06-11-2008 08:15 PM

Thanks
My drum just doesn't have the same look as the lined ones here, not shiny but a dull gray. I thought maybe high temp paint would work on the sides.

Can you send me a couple of inside pics of yours or maybe post here for others as well.

Bbq Bubba 06-11-2008 08:24 PM

Theyre only shiny till they use em...they're all black inside! :cool:

N8man 06-11-2008 09:28 PM

Before Seasoning:
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/at...1&d=1182036105
Well Seasoned DrumPit:
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/at...6&d=1182788419

Norcoredneck 06-12-2008 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark (Post 660623)
Pat:

Either I missed it or you didn't explain what the bottom basin is from.:confused:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3055.jpg

Norcoredneck 06-12-2008 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8man (Post 661070)
Norco, you have unequivocally raised the bar in terms of UDS Fabrication Ten Fold, my Friend. The Design thus far is Quite Outstanding and Inspired.
Will you be adding this Segment of your Build to your "RedNeck Build" Thread, keeping it documented all within one Thread? Can't wait to see how it progresses from here.

Thanks N8. I am going to consolidate all. First I am going to have basic build and links inserted on build options. Hopefully for a sticky. Several people have sent me info. Just got real busy at work. One thing to work 12's and sit and monitor, another when you have to do physical labor. This is why post slowed. Gonna pick up expanded metal at steel yard today. Had 4X8 sheet sheared into 6 8"X96" pieces. Will cut into 12 42.5" pieces for rings to go around 18" weber kettle charcoal grate which measures 13.5"dia. Have you noted this thread has over 100,000 views? Cool!

Bbq Bubba 06-12-2008 08:46 AM

Holy fark drumheads..........100,000 + views!!!:eek::lol::icon_cool

afreemaniii 06-12-2008 01:10 PM

These things are popular and for a good reason.

HatchQ4U 06-12-2008 11:41 PM

wish I could reply

HatchQ4U 06-12-2008 11:42 PM

Okay, now I feel dumb. Being trying to post all day and it was always giving me an error. Now when I write something stupid, it actually posts it. What a moron.

Sorry

thirdeye 06-12-2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchQ4U (Post 661983)
Okay, now I feel dumb. Being trying to post all day and it was always giving me an error. Now when I write something stupid, it actually posts it. What a moron.

Sorry

From your nickname I'm guessing you hang with "T" ?

HatchQ4U 06-13-2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thirdeye (Post 661984)
From your nickname I'm guessing you hang with "T" ?

Actually no, I made my name up before I scanned through the forum. But now that I've scanned and seen a few more things, I'm wondering, if out of respect for a great BBQ'r, I shouldn't change it to something different.

Hook_Line_and_Sinker 06-13-2008 02:03 AM

new mod sighted ! creator = michiana mark


pierced nipple mod


http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/at...1&d=1213283007

thinking out loud here - what if it was a slot, and sized big enough to avoid removing the cap??? sort of a small valve

swamprb 06-13-2008 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 661321)
Thanks N8. I am going to consolidate all. First I am going to have basic build and links inserted on build options. Hopefully for a sticky. Several people have sent me info. Just got real busy at work. One thing to work 12's and sit and monitor, another when you have to do physical labor. This is why post slowed. Gonna pick up expanded metal at steel yard today. Had 4X8 sheet sheared into 6 8"X96" pieces. Will cut into 12 42.5" pieces for rings to go around 18" weber kettle charcoal grate which measures 13.5"dia. Have you noted this thread has over 100,000 views? Cool!


I prefer the coal grate for an 18.5" as oppossed to a 22.5" Weber coal grate for UDS baskets. Tried them both and seems like the 13.5" dia. gets to temp faster.

Norcoredneck 06-13-2008 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 662045)
I prefer the coal grate for an 18.5" as oppossed to a 22.5" Weber coal grate for UDS baskets. Tried them both and seems like the 13.5" dia. gets to temp faster.

That is what I meant. Like you said a 18.5" weber which is actual 13.5" charcoal grate is what I meant. I was calling it an 18". A 22.5" weber has a 17" charcoal grate. Thanks for posting to make it clear. I can see it but not always translate.

thirdeye 06-13-2008 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchQ4U (Post 661995)
Actually no, I made my name up before I scanned through the forum. But now that I've scanned and seen a few more things, I'm wondering, if out of respect for a great BBQ'r, I shouldn't change it to something different.

http://www.q4u.com/newweb/images/ribfest05/7.jpg

I don't think there will be any mix-ups. His forum nickname is Q4U's T, and his restaurant is called Q4U. He does not post here, I met him on another forum and he competes at the State Championship in Wyoming. T is also from Utah, so I thought you guys might know each other or work or cook together.

You are right, he is a real good cook and to keep this on topic, he cooks on a BDS.

JD McGee 06-15-2008 08:23 PM

One of my Big Green Drums got a paint job today...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/IMG_4425.jpg

This was the before look...




http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_4025.jpg

Now I get to "ugly" it up all over again...:biggrin:

JD McGee 06-15-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hook_Line_and_Sinker (Post 662014)
new mod sighted ! creator = michiana mark


pierced nipple mod


http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/at...1&d=1213283007

thinking out loud here - what if it was a slot, and sized big enough to avoid removing the cap??? sort of a small valve

I'm liking the slot idea...you don't need a lot of threads to hold that cap. I'd mill it out leaving just enough to thread on the cap. :idea:

Richard_ 06-15-2008 10:24 PM

intake vent hole ??
 
how big is to big ?? I am ready to start building mine , but the hole saw bit I have is 2.25 , I plan on only 1 hole , will that be enough ?? and how far from the bottom should I drill it ??

Norcoredneck 06-15-2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 663941)
how big is to big ?? I am ready to start building mine , but the hole saw bit I have is 2.25 , I plan on only 1 hole , will that be enough ?? and how for from the bottom should I drill it ??

Too big in my opinion.

h20loo 06-16-2008 07:46 AM

I agree with Norco but it really comes down to how much is open when you're smoking. I have one 1 1/2" hole and I have it wide open to start and then close it down to 1/8 to hold 225. I would think 2.25 might come up to temp faster but it depends on the exhaust also. What are you using to control the air? I think I would use sheet magnet or a sheet metal flap rather than a huge ball valve. I kind of like a nice clean look to the barrels without too much hanging off them yet my favorite barrel to cook on has a intake coming up the side.
Let us know how it works for you!
How high- 2" off the bottom seems to work good to keep ashes and juices in the barrel.

Richard_ 06-16-2008 10:46 AM

perfect , ended up going with a 1.25 hole saw , probably cut 4 holes till after I do a burn to clean the barrel , then cap 3 of them and put a ball valve in 1

Dr_KY 06-16-2008 10:49 AM

You don't need to cut that many holes. Why spend the extra cash and risk leaks? It's not a bad idea if you plan on doing big loads of chicken though.

You can see I have two , one with a ball valve to adjust tempsand the other running wide open with a stainless nipple. They are placed one third the way around the drum with one space left in case I needed to add a third.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2h4yf6s.jpg

wlh3 06-16-2008 10:57 AM

Tried some thing new Fathers day on the drum. Cooked with no exhaust stack, just a open bung hole. Filled firebox with 10 lb of K. Put 2 lb of K in chimney and fired it off. Dumped well lit K on top of firebox, left all three holes open and put on lid. Side temp hit 225* center temp was 275* covered 2 holes up 1 open. 10 min later side temp 205* and center temp 240*. It stayed this way for the next hour and 20 min.
Time to put on the jerked chicken. Crips forgot to take out of refer for warm up, this was straight from the refer to the drum. Chicken is on, I do not leave lid off for any length of time. I load, temp and flip by taking grill off drum and replace lid then do what I have to, then put grate back on drum. Side temp 175* center temp went back to 220* with in 5 min I can live with that. Side temp took allmost 30 min to get to 200* center temp stayed around 220* to 225*. 30 min later time to rotate grill, just using open bung did not eliminate hot spot unde exhaust vent, but it did seem to be less (subjective). After short spike Temps returned to 200* center temp now 230* 30 min later time to flip. short spike then settled @ 205* side temp and 240* to 245* center. 30 min later rotate grill temps settled back to 205*side and 245* to 250* center. 30 min rotated grill temps settled in as before. 30min later flipped and opened 1 more hole temps now 230 * side and center was 260* 20min later flipped side 250* and center 280* 20 min later probed thighs temps in chix was 175* to 180 * depending on size. Dinner is on:icon_bigsmil cook time 2 hrs 40 min

What did I learn from this


I do not think you need a stack for cooking, open bung works just fine.

open bung does not eliminate hot spot under vent.

Condensation under lid was nil, big difference noticed. this was 7 lbs of marinated thighs.

Doing a fast finish on the chicken worked very well:icon_cool

Drums rock:icon_bigsmil

Dr_KY 06-16-2008 11:01 AM

But the stack is the bling. :twisted:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2hiczrm.jpg

michiana mark 06-16-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 659525)
I'll tell you it is a sight to behold to see the convection effect with the drum lid and my 8 vent holes swirling in the early morning of an all nighter with just my dining room light reflecting on the deck!


pic please.

michiana mark 06-16-2008 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD McGee (Post 663864)
I'm liking the slot idea...you don't need a lot of threads to hold that cap. I'd mill it out leaving just enough to thread on the cap. :idea:


This actually has 4 1/4 " holes drilled in it. I have two of these in along with a ball valve. Tried to even out the air intake to evenly burn the charcoal on all sides.

Richard_ 06-16-2008 01:19 PM

exhaust ??
 
is there a magic # for the size ?? I was thinking of using 2.25 exhaust tubing

sfisch 06-16-2008 01:26 PM

Richard,
Saw one a couple weeks ago that the guy put a angled chrome tailpipe extension over and it looked really cool.

Scott

Bbq Bubba 06-16-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 664371)
But the stack is the bling. :twisted:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2hiczrm.jpg

You are totally right bro, but wlh3 is right, in my experience, a 2" open bung with no stack is almost the best draw you can get!
I have even shortened my PVC exhausts down to like 6" tall...taller exhausts = less stable temps and shorter burns. My 2 cents. :cool:

Bbq Bubba 06-16-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michiana mark (Post 664431)
This actually has 4 1/4 " holes drilled in it. I have two of these in along with a ball valve. Tried to even out the air intake to evenly burn the charcoal on all sides.

Burn off the paint yet (too hot mod)? 8-)

Dr_KY 06-16-2008 02:29 PM

I'll have a shorter one made next week. Thanks for the tip. :cool:
This is the first time I have ran it in such a wide open space. I loaded the basket about half full and fired it at 7 PM Friday and she finally burned down Saturday when we capped it off at about noon. 19 hours was a log run for her but she may do more with a shorter stack.

Norcoredneck 06-16-2008 06:14 PM

WHL3 like I tell people. Run side gauge at 200 and you will be in sweet spot. 250 on gauge is why people think they cook so much faster.

Norcoredneck 06-16-2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 664572)
I'll have a shorter one made next week. Thanks for the tip. :cool:
This is the first time I have ran it in such a wide open space. I loaded the basket about half full and fired it at 7 PM Friday and she finally burned down Saturday when we capped it off at about noon. 19 hours was a log run for her but she may do more with a shorter stack.

I honestly believe you can't beat flat lid with 8 1/2" evenly spaced holes.

Richard_ 06-16-2008 06:52 PM

how far from the bottom
 
should the charcoal basket be ?? and how far up from the charcoal should the cooking grates be ??

Norcoredneck 06-16-2008 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 664803)
should the charcoal basket be ?? and how far up from the charcoal should the cooking grates be ??

Smeone didn't do their homework. Please read above postsssssss. It's in there.

Richard_ 06-16-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 664841)
Smeone didn't do their homework. Please read above postsssssss. It's in there.

I have been reading:eek: my eyes are getting crossed:cry:

Norcoredneck 06-16-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 664857)
I have been reading:eek: my eyes are getting crossed:cry:

So that is what happened to me!:mrgreen:

Brian in So Cal 06-16-2008 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 664876)
So that is what happened to me!:mrgreen:

LMAO:mrgreen::-D:mrgreen:


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