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Bill-Chicago
09-08-2004, 01:06 PM
Anyone ever try this?



MEAT POTTING

To: [email protected]
From: Al Durtschi <[email protected]>
Subject: Potting Meat

Rich, Here is some research I've been doing on preserving meat by
potting. I would be flattered if you chose to use it in your stuff.
All I ask is that you leave my name with it... and maybe my E-mail
address as long as E-mail addresses fit into your layout.
I hope you like it.

P.S.S. I love your work. You are doing wonderful, important
things.

Meat Potting:

Before refrigeration changed everything here in Southern Alberta,
meat potting was a more prevalent way of preserving meat than either
salt curing or drying . In my mind, 'meat potting' was an accident
waiting for a place to happen, but under the appropriate circumstances
it could have a place again.

This is how we used to do it...
As told by Gorden Schaufert (born 1942)

Meat potting is preserving meat in it's own grease in a large
crock pot.

This is how we did it. Early in the morning Dad killed a pig and
started cutting it up. He gave the pieces to Mom who had the wood
stove in the kitchen hot and ready to cook. She started frying the
pork and prepared the crock pot. This pot was about 18 inches in
diameter and 24 inches deep.

Mother washed it, and got it just as clean as she could get it.
As the pork fried, it gave off lots of grease. She took some of this
very hot grease and poured it into the bottom of the crock, sealing and
sterilizing the bottom. Then she put the meat she had just finished
cooking down onto this grease.

As she continued to cook throughout the day she added the well
fried meat and covered it with the hot fat that came from the
cooking process.

By the evening the pig was all fried up and in the pot, covered over
with a nice layer of lard that had hardened. As the days passed by,
we dug down into the lard to where the meat was, pulled out what we
needed, and put it in the frying pan.

We cooked it good a second time to kill any bacteria that could
have possibly gotten into it. Doing this not only re-sterilized the
meat for eating, but melted off all the excess fat.

The meat was taken out of the pan and the fat was poured back into
the pot to seal up the hole we had just made getting the meat out.

Frequently Asked Questions:

1. How long can pork be preserved in this way?

In the Summer time we could expect it to last about six weeks.
Of course in the Winter it would last much longer. When it went bad
there was no question about it, as it really started to stink.

(In my research for this subject, I talked with many old timers who
never had any meat go bad through many years of potting.)

2. How much did you have to cook it to be sure it was cooked
enough?

We cooked it until all the red was gone, then cooked it some more.
If there was even one piece put in the barrel partially cooked it could
have easily destroyed the meat in the whole barrel. (Leslie Basel
<[email protected]>,

The custodian of the FAQs for rec.food.preserving suggests the meat
be cooked to 240 degrees F and the fat that is poured in after it be
even hotter.)

3. What other meats can be preserved in this way?

Really, you can preserve any type of meat. But if a low fat type
of meat is potted, there must be an adequate supply of extra fat to
cover the meat as it is cooked and placed in the pot.

(Several old timers talked about potting beef. But mostly it was used
for pork as it furnished it's own fat.)

4. Could meat be salt cured and then potted?

Yes, and this was done by some families. It is hard to say how
long this extended the shelf life of the meat in the pot.

5. What can I do to enhance my chances of potting safely?

Insure your crock pot is clean and sanitized before you start.
Be sure the grease you pour into the crock is always nice and hot as well
as the meat.

Keep everything as clean as possible. Don't use the came cooking
utensil to take the meat out of the pan as you used to turn or handle
the raw meat.

Leave the utensil you use to move the meat from the pan into the
pot in the frying pan where it can stay hot and therefore sterilized.

Do not touch the cooked meat with anything except the cooking utensil you
transfer the meat from the pan to the pot with.

When putting meat into the crock, don't touch the sides of the crock pot
and don't touch the meat. Cover the crock with a lid when not putting meat
or fat into it.

Remember, your success depends entirely on insuring that not one
cell of bacteria is permitted to remain alive in the pot. And on
using the meat, schedule things out so you plan on using the last
of the meat within 6 weeks.

(This was not a problem for the early folks as they often had 10 or
more children.)

6. Should I give this a try to gain experience in this type of
meat preserving?

Potting is no longer done for good reason. It's just not an
approved way of preserving meat, considering our present technology.

This information is given here for three reasons:

a. Save the skill from being lost in a rapidly changing world.
(There are fewer old timers every day.)

b. Help people realize it is an option (in very hard times).

c. Preserve our heritage.

Should you want to give it a try, go ahead. If you follow these
instructions you will probably have good luck. Remember when you re-heat
your meat, cook it good a second time to kill any bacteria that might have
gotten into it.

And if it starts to smell bad, don't mess around with it, but throw it
away.

A last comment:

The term 'scraping the bottom of the barrel' came from potting
meat. By the time the old timers got to the bottom of the pot, the
quality of the meat was often very questionable. And hence the term means
even today 'using something rather undesirable because it is all there is.'

(Ref: Leslie Basel)

jminion
09-08-2004, 01:14 PM
Man that could get ugly!

parrothead
09-08-2004, 01:21 PM
Don't think I would try it. I have heard of it, but have heard it does get bad toward the bottom.

Bill-Chicago
09-08-2004, 01:47 PM
Man that could get ugly!

you aint kidding

we keep a grease can under the sink

When thats full, it looks like complete ****.

Couldnt imagine fishing down in there for something to eat.

ugghh

Bellybro
09-08-2004, 03:14 PM
Bill

Let us know how it turns out.... if you are able.

Bill-Chicago
09-08-2004, 03:24 PM
Bill

Let us know how it turns out.... if you are able.

I'll need wireless in the bathroom first

brdbbq
09-08-2004, 03:31 PM
Put wireless anywhere in the house it will reach the ****ter, thus the name.

MikeG
09-08-2004, 03:35 PM
[
we keep a grease can under the sink

Well you have the potting starter kit :
Let us know how it goes brother:
If Bad there will most likely be a short incubation period then:
Bloody diarrhea, weight loss, dehydration, fever, sweating, bed
****ting, prolonged diarrhea(3 or more unformed stools per hour)
lasting for several days,cranial nerve palsies, motor weakness,
dizziness, sudden onsets of nausea and vomiting and sever abdominal
pain. Stool samples will be readily availiable from any flat surface
within one square mile of your residence.

If good:
I'll try it

MikeG

Bill-Chicago
09-08-2004, 07:47 PM
Like I need an excuse for bloody diarreaha

try 200 farking pounds of jalepeno peanuts

blood is then your friend, and cooler than the jap nuts pushing

Bill-Chicago
09-08-2004, 07:48 PM
Put wireless anywhere in the house it will reach the ****ter, thus the name.

I have my bathroom walls lined with lead.

doubles as a fal out shelter (no ****)

jminion
09-08-2004, 08:41 PM
Bill in the bathroom with lead linned walls and tin foil hat!
What a picture!

tommykendall
09-08-2004, 10:14 PM
we keep a grease can under the sink



I keep one between my legs :oops: (sorry for being off topic but couldn't pass it)

Bill-Chicago
09-09-2004, 08:09 AM
Bill in the bathroom with lead linned walls and tin foil hat!
What a picture!

LOL Jim

Mark
09-09-2004, 08:19 AM
Makes me long for the "good old days," back when botulisim was a leading cause of death.

frognot
09-09-2004, 08:47 AM
To quote Carl from Slingblade "Got any more of that potted meat? Uh Huh . . ."

rusold
09-10-2004, 02:42 PM
A fancy French version is confit - usually duck - But no one ever tells how it is made.

R