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Sammy_Shuford
07-15-2010, 11:24 AM
1) Hinged grate
2) ash pan vs tray

Are there any functional differences? I see nothing to justify the higher cost.

BluesDaddy
07-15-2010, 11:33 AM
1) Hinged grate
2) ash pan vs tray

Are there any functional differences? I see nothing to justify the higher cost.Well, you listed the functional differences. Owners of Golds swear by them, but to me the $60 difference is not worth it. Buy a hinged grate for $18 (or less) and do the steel pail or flower pot ash mod (for about $10 to $15) and IMO you're pretty much there. Folks say the air/temp control is better with the Gold's bottom vents, but I don't really have any issues with my two OTS in that area.

aquablue22
07-15-2010, 11:37 AM
It depends on where your going to use it also, I like the ash pan and hinged grate. I use my Webers by the pool and don't want ANY of that ash on the deck or in the pool. Plus the hinged grate is great for adding more coals and wood chips. I have a 18.5 that i use also and have to drag in outside the pool cage when i do.

Big_T_BBQ
07-15-2010, 11:43 AM
I recently got an 18.5 OTG to go with my Daisy wheel 22.5 - the mounted ash can is pretty nice. even when it's windy it keeps the ash in check.

Bartstop
07-15-2010, 11:47 AM
The ash pan will also catch hot embers from falling out the bottom. Get one of those stuck in your shoe/sandle and the $60 will seem well worth it. Not to mention people walking barefoot or kids playing in the vicinity.

Wampus
07-15-2010, 12:40 PM
Agree and disagree.

My first charcoal grill was my OTS. I alsways said that was all I needed. I always said that the ash pan and hinged grates were overrated. Then last year, I bought a Performer off of CL and I LOVE the ashpan and hinged grates. Hell, I even went and bought a hinged grate from Home Depot for $18 for my OTS.

The hinged grates are a HUGE advantage on longer cooks on the kettle for adding coals without having to remove the entire cooking grate from the grill. The ashpan is great for keeping the wind from blowing ash all over the place. PLUS....the hot ember on the foot thing is SOOOOO true. It holds ash for several cooks, so you don't have to empty every time.

I don't see a difference in "ventability" between the OTS and OTG, though. The only difference is the handle, but the vents in the bottom of the kettle are the same.



Anyway.....I'd say it's worth it. If you buy a OTS and then buy a hinged grate and mod the ashpan, you're nearly there anyway, money-wise.



Have you checked CL? Rare, but I've seen plenty on there.

MattB
07-15-2010, 12:53 PM
My Silver has been great. I got a hinged grate for something like $15. I've had no problems with the ashes, but I guess that depends on how windy things get in your area. I've gotten hot coals on the ground, but that was from me pouring them out of my chimney; something that an ash catcher could not have prevented.

Rylo
07-15-2010, 01:12 PM
This being my first Weber I can only compare it to the other cheap charcoal grills that I've owned in the past and the added options of the Gold, at least to me, are great and well worth it. The easy cleaning ash can is really nice and adding wood chunks with the hinged grate is very handy especially when you forget to add the wood when you dump the coals in.:doh:
Since I got the 26.75" version there was not a choice between Silver or Gold, it only comes as the Gold.

ChicagoSizzlin
07-15-2010, 01:21 PM
This being my first Weber I can only compare it to the other cheap charcoal grills that I've owned in the past and the added options of the Gold, at least to me, are great and well worth it. The easy cleaning ash can is really nice and adding wood chunks with the hinged grate is very handy especially when you forget to add the wood when you dump the coals in.:doh:


+1

I was in the same boat right before fathers day. I ended up picking up a OTG and couldnt be happier. Ash can is such a sweet thing and makes for faster clean up. Hinged grates are a must have! Def worth the price in my book.

Also look in craigslist for some cheaper ones. I found one for $75 one time.

landarc
07-15-2010, 01:24 PM
I own a Silver and have no issues with it, other than the poor fitting legs (brisket sploogie mod). My brother has a OTG and I do not like the ash pan, it is the first think I remove when using his kettle. I did buy the hinged grates so no difference there.

Timmy
07-15-2010, 01:34 PM
I have both. I prefer the otg and will upgrade when I can score them from CL. Go for the GOLD. You will not be sorry.

NebraskaBBQ
07-15-2010, 01:42 PM
I'd vote for the Gold. The hinged great is easily the best feature, if you do any smoking on your kettle. The ash catcher is worth it to me as well because I store my grill in my garage when not in use and i've never had any ash get anywhere outside of the pan. Of course, I got my OTG for free, so if I was paying for it maybe I would convince myself that the features weren't worth it. One thing I know, if it's a weber kettle, you won't be disappointed either way.

Smoothsmoke
07-15-2010, 02:45 PM
Can you purchase the ash catcher and adapt it on the silver model? I'm on Weber's website and see that they do not sell the ash catcher.

JazzCat
07-15-2010, 03:14 PM
OTG is worth the extra cash.
I have 3 Silvers and one Gold.
Use the Gold most often.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoothsmoke
"Can you purchase the ash catcher and adapt it on the silver model? I'm on Weber's website and see that they do not sell the ash catcher."

Yes you can, call Weber at 1-800-446-1071 and order directly from them.

chobint
07-15-2010, 03:15 PM
another vote for OTG. Ash catcher is well worth it. I had 3 or 4 large embers fall into the pan when I did an ash sweep on my last long cook. If you score from CL, the price diff should be negligible compared to a used OTS.

Smoothsmoke
07-15-2010, 03:23 PM
OTG is worth the extra cash.
I have 3 Silvers and one Gold.
Use the Gold most often.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoothsmoke
"Can you purchase the ash catcher and adapt it on the silver model? I'm on Weber's website and see that they do not sell the ash catcher."

Yes you can, call Weber at 1-800-446-1071 and order directly from them.

Thank you!

Last newbie question. The enclosed ashpan should fit on my silver kettle right? I'm assuming yes, but making sure.

Wampus
07-15-2010, 03:30 PM
Can you purchase the ash catcher and adapt it on the silver model? I'm on Weber's website and see that they do not sell the ash catcher.

Don't think so. The differences are more than just the "bucket" on the bottom. The handle for the botom vent is integral to the ash can. Plus, I think it would be hard to attach to the bottom of the OTS, but don't know for sure.

Dave Russell
07-15-2010, 03:34 PM
I've got both, and the One Touch Gold is worth every penny more!

Two handles on the bowl sure make it easier to carry, but another thing nobody's mentioned is the sweeper hardware. The OTS has reg. sweeper hardware, and I've already had to buy the replacement kit for mine after rust did the bolt in. Upon ordering, the customer service rep informed me that the OTG had STAINLESS hardware there.

....Add to that the hinged grate and the ashcatcher, and you've got yourself a no brainer in my book.

Darko
07-15-2010, 03:39 PM
Thank you!

Last newbie question. The enclosed ashpan should fit on my silver kettle right? I'm assuming yes, but making sure. It will, but considering the price that is charged, you're better off buying a gold right from the start.

Smoothsmoke
07-15-2010, 03:42 PM
It will, but considering the price that is charged, you're better off buying a gold right from the start.

Too late now, I picked up a silver 2 weeks ago. :doh:

I'm still more than happy with the silver.

Beerwolf
07-15-2010, 05:55 PM
Can you purchase the ash catcher and adapt it on the silver model? I'm on Weber's website and see that they do not sell the ash catcher.


Weber says the ash catcher wont fit... I'd bet SOMEONE out here has done it..

Sammy_Shuford
07-17-2010, 05:43 PM
Craigslist has drawn a blank for me, now that I'm back home, I pulled the plug on the silver on Amazon.

JazzCat
07-19-2010, 12:30 PM
Weber says the ash catcher wont fit... I'd bet SOMEONE out here has done it..
I've seen a silver modified into a gold.
Weber does not sell the ash catcher on their website, but like many other Weber parts, nearly all parts are available by calling them direct.
They DO sell the ash catcher if you are willing to pay for it.
Of course Weber will say the pan will not fit the silver... but there is a way.

Jersey Joe
07-19-2010, 01:26 PM
My OTG is right out the back door just outside the kitchen. (I live in an apartment building). The next door neghbor's is only about 12 feet from mine and some parking is close too. I can't have the ash flying all over the place.

As for the grate... my first lasted for 7-8 years. I just replaced it with another hinged one (SS this time). I use the hinges almost every cook.:thumb:

mbshop
07-19-2010, 01:57 PM
far as i know the newer silvers can be converted with the proper parts. i have never heard of the sweepers being differant. they are all aluminized steel.

mbshop
07-19-2010, 02:06 PM
i stand corrected, i checked the weber site and sure enough, they list the sweepers as alum steel on the silver and stainless on the gold. i have never heard of this and under parts you only see the alum steel ones as replacements. well after thinking about it, duh, the stainless won't need replacing.

twisterbret
07-19-2010, 02:34 PM
The Kettle is a life time investment. You will have it for years and years. I had the silver and loved it so much I went for the Preformer and thinks it's worth it.

NFLNative
07-19-2010, 06:27 PM
Gold. Especially if you cook large amounts and have to reload charcoal during cooking. The ash tray will hold lots of ash

Dave Russell
07-19-2010, 06:49 PM
i stand corrected, i checked the weber site and sure enough, they list the sweepers as alum steel on the silver and stainless on the gold. i have never heard of this and under parts you only see the alum steel ones as replacements. well after thinking about it, duh, the stainless won't need replacing.

Yeah, like I said earlier, I had no clue until the service rep told me. You'd think Weber would use this as a selling point for the otg, but I guess they have their reasons. Their reason had a dollar sign in front when I had to replace the sweeper hardware for my ots.

Brauma
07-19-2010, 07:07 PM
For a little more, you too can go first class.

I have a Silver and love it like one of my kids. Still have the non-hinged grate; one of the lower vents is bent up; the ash catcher looks like a beat up baby moon hub cap. I wouldnt trade for a new one if you gave it to me. But thats only because I'm sentimental.

But of course I'd rather have a Gold (he says defeatedly). Its just that if youve never had it, you dont miss it.

mbshop
07-19-2010, 07:21 PM
correct. all my kettles are one touch silvers or three wheelers. i really don't have any real issues with them and won't trade 'em. but if i can find a really cheap gold on cl then i will add one to the family.