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Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 09:06 AM
You know, I've got a lot of tolerance for a lot of things. But here's what I don't tolerate. Did some pork butts and had a guy tell me that how I did them wasn't "real bbq". :mad: That it was "cheating".

I used to smoke my butts with a dry rub, pull then serve. I have recently over the past year changed how I do pulled pork. I smoke without any dry rub or anything. When finished, I pull the pork, mop with a homemade sauce I make from scratch then put back in the smoker for about 20-30 minutes then serve. I like it better that way and everyone that has eaten concurs and absolutely dies for it. I've had several request from people to do pulled pork for them for family events.

I was recently told that how I was doing it wasn't "real bbq". "Real BBQ" doesn't need a "mop sauce". But "real bbq" is dry and if "done right" you don't need a sauce or any sort of "mop sauce". I told the SOB to put down the third sandwich he was eating of it if it wasn't "real bbq" and didn't taste as good. Sorry, had to vent. :mad:

Smokin' D
12-02-2009, 09:11 AM
Some folks ya just can't please. Most likely he was just jealous of your efforts and could not be nice enough to actually compliment you on the meal.
Keep doing it YOUR way! That's what BBQ is all about!

texman02
12-02-2009, 09:11 AM
Guy had alot of nutz complaining on the third sammich...... some people!

Skip
12-02-2009, 09:11 AM
I don't know why he would say that. Although many do use a dry rub to start its not a requirement and what of those who wrap in foil add juice to the foil or use a sauce at the end? You put smoke to it low and slow. I think I'd vote for real....oh and you used pork so its definitely "real" BBQ.

<~~~runs serpentine to avoid the buckshot

HumboldtSmokeBBQ
12-02-2009, 09:16 AM
are you having fun doing it? are you cooking inside? are you using propane, charcoal, or wood? dry rub or mop?

The questions as to what real BBQ is can go on for days. The most important thing is to bring smiles to the people eating it! And yourself of course!

BBQ Bandit
12-02-2009, 09:16 AM
The nerve.... complaining on a full belly!

cowgirl
12-02-2009, 09:22 AM
You know, I've got a lot of tolerance for a lot of things. But here's what I don't tolerate. Did some pork butts and had a guy tell me that how I did them wasn't "real bbq". :mad: That it was "cheating".

I used to smoke my butts with a dry rub, pull then serve. I have recently over the past year changed how I do pulled pork. I smoke without any dry rub or anything. When finished, I pull the pork, mop with a homemade sauce I make from scratch then put back in the smoker for about 20-30 minutes then serve. I like it better that way and everyone that has eaten concurs and absolutely dies for it. I've had several request from people to do pulled pork for them for family events.

I was recently told that how I was doing it wasn't "real bbq". "Real BBQ" doesn't need a "mop sauce". But "real bbq" is dry and if "done right" you don't need a sauce or any sort of "mop sauce". I told the SOB to put down the third sandwich he was eating of it if it wasn't "real bbq" and didn't taste as good. Sorry, had to vent. :mad:


Sounds like you're doing it right to me. I draw the line when an oven or crock pot are involved. :biggrin:

Ford
12-02-2009, 09:23 AM
Guess it depends on the meaning of real. Most people say real BBQ and mean traditional whether pork in the South East or Brisket in Texas or Memphis style or KC style or West Coast style with hot grilled tri-tip, etc.

If it's traditional southern style pork BBQ then that person was correct. Obviously he thought that your BBQ was good to eat but that doesn't mean it was the traditional style.

For the record I believe that "real BBQ" means a dry rub on meat and if wanted a mop sauce while cooking and sauce optional. The flavor should be in the meat and the sauce is a compliment to that flavor.

Lake Dogs
12-02-2009, 09:26 AM
A jack-ass is born every day. Sorry you had to suffer him, especially when feeding
him! Honestly, BBQ is simply low n slow, otherwise its grilling... Obviously you did
low n slow. How you pull it, when/if you mop, when/if you sauce, when/if you rub
is 100&#37; up to your taste. He not only is mis-informed, he's a profound jack-ass for
saying this while scarfing up your wonderful tasty Q.

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 09:31 AM
The only difference in seasoning the meat with a dry rub compared to a sauce is one is "wet" and the other is...well..."dry". But the end result is you're still seasoning the meat. You're adding something to it outside of the smoke, moisture and heat.

If we want to really get technical about it "real" bbq doesn't require ANY seasoning but simply throwing the meat on the smoker and allowing the moisture, heat and smoke do its thing. At it's purist state THAT is "real bbq".


Guess it depends on the meaning of real. Most people say real BBQ and mean traditional whether pork in the South East or Brisket in Texas or Memphis style or KC style or West Coast style with hot grilled tri-tip, etc.

If it's traditional southern style pork BBQ then that person was correct. Obviously he thought that your BBQ was good to eat but that doesn't mean it was the traditional style.

For the record I believe that "real BBQ" means a dry rub on meat and if wanted a mop sauce while cooking and sauce optional. The flavor should be in the meat and the sauce is a compliment to that flavor.

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 09:36 AM
Low and slow it was. Smoked it with lump charcoal with a nice mix of oak and hickory wood. Kept the temps around 250-275 degrees. Yes, the guy is a pure jack-ass at it purist definition. He's a relative on my wife's side of the family. It's not that the jack-ass said that it was he said it while eating THREE SAMMICHES!!! Good night alive!!! :rolleyes:


A jack-ass is born every day. Sorry you had to suffer him, especially when feeding
him! Honestly, BBQ is simply low n slow, otherwise its grilling... Obviously you did
low n slow. How you pull it, when/if you mop, when/if you sauce, when/if you rub
is 100&#37; up to your taste. He not only is mis-informed, he's a profound jack-ass for
saying this while scarfing up your wonderful tasty Q.

WahooBBQ
12-02-2009, 09:43 AM
Seems like people who criticize bbq are the ones who never make it, or can't make it. Like Skip said, low and and slow... As long as you like it, don't sweat it.

skeetman
12-02-2009, 09:46 AM
Bamabuzzard,
How could that upset you? To be criticized from a guy with his pie hole stuffed with your real BBQ. Concider the source.

musicmanryann
12-02-2009, 09:47 AM
Pork butt without a dry rub is called doing it "nekkid". If it is done enough to have a name, then I would say it is a legit form of bbq.:wink:

Like painting bbq is an art. Painting has oil paintings, acrylic paintings, watercolor paintings, etc. All are legitimate forms of the same art (painting), even though the styles and techniques in each are very different. The same goes for bbq.:-D

Lake Dogs
12-02-2009, 09:47 AM
I'm kinda a BBQ purist myself, getting back to the creation of BBQ. Texas cattle drives
with beef was 80+ years AFTER it was created/invented on sugar cane plantations
in SC and GA, by slaves. They used pork; they weren't given beef... Even in my
competition rub, I use spices that they had available to them way back then (before TX
was a brain-fart), and they're CREOLE based (getting ALL they way back). Low n slow,
rubbed with creole spices. But, that's me. Ok, on my rub for NEW-Q (Texas Brisket)
I use more what they had available on cattle drives and it isn't creole spice based
with much more black pepper... nouveau-Q, circa 1720 :-)


Your jack-ass-in-law is mis-informed. That's as real a BBQ as anything else. May
not be his personal stated preference, but it seems that he actually prefers FREE
food, BBQ or not...

Odin the Dog
12-02-2009, 09:54 AM
Maybe he would like a knuckle sandwhich instead?

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 09:55 AM
I think what pi$$ed me off was I've put a lot of time and energy over the past six or seven years learning how to bbq and smoke meat over a natural fire and heat source. I've learned that it's not as easy as people think and it's not just starting a fire and slinging meat on a grate. It's much more to it than that. And to have someone that's never done it tell me that what I'm doing is basically a "fraud" just doesn't sit well with me.

The more I think about it I should of just snatched the damn sandwich out of his mouth and told him not to eat something he didn't approve of. But my wife would have been ticked!!!


Seems like people who criticize bbq are the ones who never make it, or can't make it. Like Skip said, low and and slow... As long as you like it, don't sweat it.

Smoke & Beers
12-02-2009, 10:14 AM
Tell the feller to run on over to Mickey D's and get him a "rib" sammy if he don't like your Q....

deguerre
12-02-2009, 10:26 AM
It's not just you. I imagine he complains to or criticizes just about everyone on just about anything. Some folks are just that way. You know, j***offs.

NorthwestBBQ
12-02-2009, 10:33 AM
Tell him he can make some "real" BBQ for you next time!

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 10:53 AM
That's what makes this so disturbing. The dude has never smoked meat on a smoker in his life. He's done pork butts in crock pots and ovens but never on a charcoal/wood burning unit.


Tell him he can make some "real" BBQ for you next time!

cameraman
12-02-2009, 10:56 AM
I suspect his life is his punishment for his stupidity. You can relax and leave the heavy work to karma.

Cast Iron Chef
12-02-2009, 10:59 AM
I say ***k him and concentrate on all the other people at the party that did enjoy real BBQ.

big brother smoke
12-02-2009, 11:02 AM
Maybe he would like a knuckle sandwhich instead?


:twisted::twisted::twisted::biggrin::biggrin:

That's funny chit!

timzcardz
12-02-2009, 11:04 AM
Low and slow it was. Smoked it with lump charcoal with a nice mix of oak and hickory wood. Kept the temps around 250-275 degrees. Yes, the guy is a pure jack-ass at it purist definition. He's a relative on my wife's side of the family. It's not that the jack-ass said that it was he said it while eating THREE SAMMICHES!!! Good night alive!!! :rolleyes:

Well there may be some hope yet. At least he is smart enough not to offer his criticism on an empty stomach.

If he had done that, then he would be a dumb arse jack-ass!

Lake Dogs
12-02-2009, 11:05 AM
well there may be some hope yet. At least he is smart enough not to offer his criticism on an empty stomach.

If he had done that, then he would be a dumb arse jack-ass!

lmao!!!!:-d

NeoTrout
12-02-2009, 11:11 AM
Sounds like the dude is just jealous of you BBQ skills. The only thing he can do about it is complain. Fark him. Q on!

KnucklHed BBQ
12-02-2009, 11:15 AM
I'm kinda a BBQ purist myself, getting back to the creation of BBQ. Texas cattle drives
with beef was 80+ years AFTER it was created/invented on sugar cane plantations
in SC and GA, by slaves. They used pork; they weren't given beef... Even in my
competition rub, I use spices that they had available to them way back then (before TX
was a brain-fart), and they're CREOLE based (getting ALL they way back). Low n slow,
rubbed with creole spices. But, that's me. Ok, on my rub for NEW-Q (Texas Brisket)
I use more what they had available on cattle drives and it isn't creole spice based
with much more black pepper... nouveau-Q, circa 1720 :-)


Your jack-ass-in-law is mis-informed. That's as real a BBQ as anything else. May
not be his personal stated preference, but it seems that he actually prefers FREE
food, BBQ or not...

To add to that, If he wanted to hit some "real" Q, you'd prolly have to forego the cooker altogether... I don't recall those slaves on the plantations or the cattlemen having anything but an open camp fire to cook over.
Next time you should make some "real" Q just for him. I'm thinkin' a duraflame presto log campfire with some wet cardboard "chips" for smoke... Hell, get him a bag of matchlight for Xmas too!! =)

I figure that as long as you're having fun, challenging yourself to try new things and forever striving to improve you're grub, you're doing it right.

BTW - Are there any pics of these fabled sammies?? :biggrin:

Ryan Chester
12-02-2009, 11:16 AM
There aint no rule book to BBQ. Do what the hell you want and have fun doing it!

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 11:19 AM
BTW - Are there any pics of these fabled sammies?? :biggrin:

No pics. The pecker head ate'em all. :biggrin:

HumboldtSmokeBBQ
12-02-2009, 11:23 AM
That's what makes this so disturbing. The dude has never smoked meat on a smoker in his life. He's done pork butts in crock pots and ovens but never on a charcoal/wood burning unit.


WHAT!!?!?!?!
Oh man, I was being nice before, but forget this guy! too bad you married in to him. Your wife being related to this guy, that is grounds for divorce. I know a good BBQ divorce lawyer if you need one.

SmokinOkie
12-02-2009, 11:33 AM
Tell him to put some $$$ where is mouth is. You and he each cook some (assuming the dude can cook, which he probably can't) and let the family decide in a blind test which is the best Q.

What usually happens?

Some idiots like him think they know what Q is, but they can't make it.

If someone wants to criticize me, they need to be better at it than me :D

Lake Dogs
12-02-2009, 11:35 AM
A side note:



This guy writes of the origins of BBQ itself and definitions:


Another casualty of American television is the confusion over just what barbeque is. Hints to its true nature, however, can sometimes be found in the use of the word "barbeque" in the language. It has become popular to say that barbeque is a noun and not a verb. Well, barbeque is, most properly, used as a noun that refers to a specific thing but sometimes it can also be used as a transitive verb.


Unfortunately, most Americans who live outside of the South in general and North and South Carolina in particular, use it as a verb or, if they use it as a noun, use it incorrectly. Midwesterners or Yankees will say to friends, "I'm going to barbeque some hamburgers tonight." Or they will say, "Let's put some brats on the barbeque and break out some beer." And while everyone will be having a great time sitting around in the smoke, the use of the word in that way is incorrect. That neighbor is going to grill some hamburgers, not barbeque them. The cooker he is going to cook them on should be called a grill, not a barbeque.


The second proper use of the word, the transitive verb usage, can sometimes be seen in such usage as the term "barbequed chicken" or "barbequed beef." It is common to barbeque various meats with beef and chicken being probably the most usual but real barbeque can including lamb, turkey, goat and even possum and other exotic creatures. But those animals are termed "barbequed (insert the name of the animal)" where the term "barbequed" in that usage is a transitive verb describing the way the animal was cooked, low and slow.


The incorrect use of the term barbeque on television, in movies and in magazines which is, more often than not, written or spoken by people who know nothing about real barbeque, has led to the misconception, for instance, that beef is barbeque. It's not. Don't forget, barbeque is more specifically a noun, a specific thing, and that specific thing is pork, not beef or fish, or beaver, or shrimp or anything else. It's quite possible to barbeque beef; tens of thousands of people out west do it all the time. And it's oftentimes delicious. But it's "barbequed beef" not barbeque. The term barbeque is always properly reserved for pork.


Indeed, it was the Spanish who first introduced the pig into the Americas and to the American Indians. The Indians, in turn, introduced the Spanish to the concept of true slow cooking with smoke. So, in that first fateful coming together, way back in the 1500s, the Spanish supplied the pig and the Indians showed them how to cook it. That is when authentic barbeque was first eaten.



The first true colony in the Americas, by the way, was in South Carolina. The very first Spanish adventurers that one reads about in the history books were actually Conquistadores, bent on gold and conquest, not on colonizing. The Spanish colonists, who came only slightly later but still in the early 1500s, came to South Carolina and they named their colony Santa Elena. It was established in the area that we now call Port Royal in Beaufort County. That colony lasted almost 20 years and it boasted a fort with several cannons, a church, a bakery, blacksmith foundry and shop, a pottery kiln and nearly 500 colonists including over 100 families. It was in that first American colony that the white man first learned to prepare and to eat real barbeque. So, people were eating barbeque in South Carolina even before that name had been applied to the area by the English.


If one wants to experience all four of America's styles of barbeque there is only one state in the nation where that can be done - South Carolina. The true barbeque aficionado can not say that he has completed his barbeque quest without a visit to South Carolina where the art of barbeque was invented and where it is still practiced in both its purest tradition and its most diverse styles.


So, y'all come to South Carolina and eat barbeque with the people who know the most about it and have the longest history of preparing it. There is a great culinary adventure waiting in store for you in South Carolina.






---------------------------


Ok, he's a SC purist, and it definitely *started* in SC. The plantations spanned NC,
SC, and GA. Slaves usually weren't permitted to eat beef and often only got the
scraps (low on the hog) pork. Fatty and stringy, the meat needed to be cooked low
n slow to render the fats and make the meat tender. BBQ, while taught to the
Spaniards by the native American indians, was introduced into our culture by creole
slaves on plantations, notably sugar cane plantations...




It don't get more REAL than that. Send that boy to MickyD's for a riblet thing.

icemncmth
12-02-2009, 11:46 AM
Three things that start more arguments than anything else.

1.Religion
2.Politics
3. BBQ

OK..now having stated that..BBQ is what "you" want it to be.
Heck some of your more famous BBQ joints smoke their meat for a little bit and then steam it. Or worse some steam their ribs and throw them on the grill for a couple of mins.

My father-n-law thinks chili's has the best baby back ribs in the world. He loves them because "the meat just falls of the bones"..!

I like baby backs OK but I love spares. I love to smoke them till they are done. Still toothy and not fall of the bone. I do them with a very basic rub..salt pepper...garlic powder. I make my own sauce and put it on the side to dip the ribs in.

Now my wife loves them with my spiced up rub...with paprika..brown sugar..etc and no sauce..

To each is own but like I tell my father-n-law ..You don't like the way I make BBQ then do it yourself and put the plate down!..That usually shuts him up!

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 12:09 PM
Personally I'm only going to hold someone accountable for "real bbq" by two standards. Is it relatively low heat and is it cooked over charcoal and/or wood fire. Outside of that do what you do. Getting into how something is seasoned ("wet" or "dry") is just different methods of flavoring bbq.

Lake Dogs
12-02-2009, 12:34 PM
Three things that start more arguments than anything else.

1.Religion
2.Politics
3. BBQ

OK..now having stated that..BBQ is what "you" want it to be.
Heck some of your more famous BBQ joints smoke their meat for a little bit and then steam it. Or worse some steam their ribs and throw them on the grill for a couple of mins.

My father-n-law thinks chili's has the best baby back ribs in the world. He loves them because "the meat just falls of the bones"..!

I like baby backs OK but I love spares. I love to smoke them till they are done. Still toothy and not fall of the bone. I do them with a very basic rub..salt pepper...garlic powder. I make my own sauce and put it on the side to dip the ribs in.

Now my wife loves them with my spiced up rub...with paprika..brown sugar..etc and no sauce..

To each is own but like I tell my father-n-law ..You don't like the way I make BBQ then do it yourself and put the plate down!..That usually shuts him up!

Iceman, I agree with you, but...:

> Heck some of your more famous BBQ joints smoke their meat for a little bit and then steam it. Or worse some steam their ribs and throw them on the grill for a couple of mins.

Just because someone calls something BBQ doesn't make it so. In your
case above, that's grilling and steaming, not BBQing...


> My father-n-law thinks chili's has the best baby back ribs in the world. He loves them because "the meat just falls of the bones"..!

Great baby-back ribs can be made/cooked many different ways. Doesn't
make it BBQ, unless it's cooked low n slow. I too love fall-off-the-bone
ribs, and sounds like I'll have to head to chili's to try theirs. Doesn't
mean I'm eating BBQ though. Just ribs.

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 12:58 PM
Yeah, I had my brother in law do some ribs in the oven, Seasoned the hell out of them and as we were eating he said "These are just as good as cooked on a smoker." I never said a word because he'd never had any ribs I'd smoked. About four months later we had a bbq at the house and I went and bought two slabs of ribs just for the event. I normally just do pork butt for things like this because of the price. But on this occasion I wanted him to taste ribs from a smoker. We sat down to eat and it didn't take ten minutes and the dude had gone back and gotten more ribs and eventually asked how I got that kind of flavor in the ribs and why his didn't taste like that. There's cooking ribs and then there's bbq'n ribs.

Doesn't mean I'm eating BBQ though. Just ribs.

Divemaster
12-02-2009, 01:25 PM
I don't have a problem with using a mop on pork butts... In fact, I normally mop mine with a very thin vinegar/mustard mix for the first 5 hours...

Yeah, I had my brother in law do some ribs in the oven, Seasoned the hell out of them and as we were eating he said "These are just as good as cooked on a smoker." I never said a word because he'd never had any ribs I'd smoked. About four months later we had a bbq at the house and I went and bought two slabs of ribs just for the event. I normally just do pork butt for things like this because of the price. But on this occasion I wanted him to taste ribs from a smoker. We sat down to eat and it didn't take ten minutes and the dude had gone back and gotten more ribs and eventually asked how I got that kind of flavor in the ribs and why his didn't taste like that. There's cooking ribs and then there's bbq'n ribs.

If I can para-phrase this... There's cookin' and then there's bbq'n...

Jeff, those look really good. You know, though, if you'd do a good job cooking the meat, you wouldn't have to drown it in sauce :) (ducking mod) / Love ya, bro!
See, we even get it from our own.... (Dan I told you this statement would come back to haunt you....)

In Dan's behalf he was joking about burnt ends in another thread...

icemncmth
12-02-2009, 01:33 PM
Iceman, I agree with you, but...:

> Heck some of your more famous BBQ joints smoke their meat for a little bit and then steam it. Or worse some steam their ribs and throw them on the grill for a couple of mins.

Just because someone calls something BBQ doesn't make it so. In your
case above, that's grilling and steaming, not BBQing...


> My father-n-law thinks chili's has the best baby back ribs in the world. He loves them because "the meat just falls of the bones"..!

Great baby-back ribs can be made/cooked many different ways. Doesn't
make it BBQ, unless it's cooked low n slow. I too love fall-off-the-bone
ribs, and sounds like I'll have to head to chili's to try theirs. Doesn't
mean I'm eating BBQ though. Just ribs.


Kind of my point...I have traveled all over this great country of ours and have eaten at a lot of BBQ places..

For some strange reason I love the little hole in the wall places vs the big BBQ joints..

One thing is for sure...I don't care what sauce..or rub you put on a slap of meat..if it is low and slow I will pretty much eat it..

Heck I love smoked bologna!

landarc
12-02-2009, 01:37 PM
I am wondering if BamaBuzzard and Willkat are related. Uncle Farkers Unite.

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 02:35 PM
I don't know I'm from Mississippi, my family tree don't have many forks in it. :eek:

Some what back on topic. People that get caught up on how something is flavored (whether it be wet, dry or served on the side for dipping etc.) tend to tie that into the definition of bbq. BBQ is the method in how something is cooked not how something is flavored. They are two different things.

Speaking of family trees. I need to call my grandmother. She's been asking my mom why I haven't called...

I am wondering if BamaBuzzard and Willkat are related. Uncle Farkers Unite.

Jacked UP BBQ
12-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Tell the douchebag that BBQ is a cooking method, not the seasoning you put on it! What an arse hole!

Alexa RnQ
12-02-2009, 02:45 PM
douchebag
I knew I could count on OC. http://www.divaherself.com/crylaugh.gif
Yep, it's "real" BBQ, and the complainer was the "real" (item above) too.

WahooBBQ
12-02-2009, 03:17 PM
Some what back on topic. People that get caught up on how something is flavored (whether it be wet, dry or served on the side for dipping etc.) tend to tie that into the definition of bbq. BBQ is the method in how something is cooked not how something is flavored. They are two different things.


Funny you say that, I've been around so many people who think that bbq is bbq merely because it has bbq sauce on it. Sure, slow cookers can make okay shoulders and ribs, but it's not bbq. For the initiated, it's not bbq. It's meat with sauce on it. Preach on buzzard.

HBMTN
12-02-2009, 03:21 PM
I'm with ya, some say REAL BBQ does not need a sauce and those same people will use a rub but IMO sauce is just liquid rub.

The one thing about BBQ that I have found to be true is that you can not please everyone!

hnd
12-02-2009, 03:21 PM
real bbq is no seasoning or sauce and the meat cooked over an open fire...no pit or nothing just a wood fire....

we are all doing it wrong.

:)

chambersuac
12-02-2009, 03:26 PM
I got here and there are four pages of posts in this thread and I'm short on time, so in case this hasn't been said here yet, let me just say, "It's not REAL BBQ unless it's a whole pig!" :) j/k

<ducking>

mbshop
12-02-2009, 03:35 PM
easy, don't feed him anymore. as to the veneral pig, a good ole boy said it ain't bbq if its not the whole pig. as far as i'm concerned its bbq if i'm happy.

HBMTN
12-02-2009, 03:39 PM
real bbq is no seasoning or sauce and the meat cooked over an open fire...no pit or nothing just a wood fire....


Bet ya if I did it this way some SOB would come by and say it was not REAL BBQ cause I was using Hickory and not some other wood :lol:

hnd
12-02-2009, 03:43 PM
Bet ya if I did it this way some SOB would come by and say it was not REAL BBQ cause I was using Hickory and not some other wood :lol:

ha probably....you got ta use mesquite on dat chit boah.

BBQ Bandit
12-02-2009, 04:23 PM
I got here and there are four pages of posts in this thread and I'm short on time, so in case this hasn't been said here yet, let me just say, "It's not REAL BBQ unless it's a whole pig!" :) j/k

<ducking>


and I quote... "shut up, chambers"

luv ya, man (Bud lite mod)

Rich Parker
12-02-2009, 04:31 PM
I got here and there are four pages of posts in this thread and I'm short on time, so in case this hasn't been said here yet, let me just say, "It's not REAL BBQ unless it's a whole pig!" :) j/k

<ducking>

These are my favorite threads!

Where is Hugh or Funk when you need them???

Rick's Tropical Delight
12-02-2009, 05:01 PM
These are my favorite threads!

Where is Hugh or Funk when you need them???

i think hugh is in jail.

j/k :biggrin:

Paulmark
12-02-2009, 05:06 PM
If he don't have nothing nice to say he shouldn't say anything! You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your relatives.
If the native americans originated bbq, and pigs were brought by the spanish, then how can true bbq only be pork...what did they use?

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Or better yet don't eat three damn sammiches while telling me it ain't "real bbq". If it ain't "real bbq" then don't eat any...


If he don't have nothing nice to say he shouldn't say anything! You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your relatives.
If the native americans originated bbq, and pigs were brought by the spanish, then how can true bbq only be pork...what did they use?

chopshop
12-02-2009, 05:07 PM
who cares! everyone is entitled to an opinion and a history lesson on spices. slap him in the head with the sandwich and send him on his way

chambersuac
12-02-2009, 05:08 PM
and I quote... "shut up, chambers"

luv ya, man (Bud lite mod)

Breaking my silence just long enough to say, "Love you, too - but you're not getting my bud lite"

Captain Dave
12-02-2009, 06:46 PM
Fark him!

Rich Parker
12-02-2009, 06:51 PM
i think hugh is in jail.

j/k :biggrin:

Oh Chit! I almost fell over that was so funny.

jestridge
12-02-2009, 07:00 PM
If you like it and you comfortable with the way you do it , keep on cooking

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/wda0258l.jpg

fivelombardis
12-02-2009, 07:19 PM
That's what makes this so disturbing. The dude has never smoked meat on a smoker in his life. He's done pork butts in crock pots and ovens but never on a charcoal/wood burning unit.


i'd love to see a picture of this tool...i'll bet he looks exactly how i'm picturing him! LOL!

don't worry brother...bbq is however YOU want to make it, as long as it tastes good, trust me, no one that is eating it gives two rat's asses how you made it.

MOS95B
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
I'm a dry rub person, myself. One definite exception to the rule, though, is.. When someone else is making it!!

If someone else is making it, and I don't like it, I finish the helping I took and keep my farking mouth shut. That's what the slaw and tater salad are for...

deguerre
12-02-2009, 08:46 PM
If he don't have nothing nice to say he shouldn't say anything! You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your relatives.
If the native americans originated bbq, and pigs were brought by the spanish, then how can true bbq only be pork...what did they use?
Duh. Squirrel.

1_T_Scot
12-02-2009, 09:26 PM
Get him some Bologna next time he comes over 2 pieces of white bread and Bologna.

Some people have no clue how stupid they sound. Did his sister Smack him?

CajunSmoker
12-02-2009, 09:39 PM
i'd love to see a picture of this tool...i'll bet he looks exactly how i'm picturing him! LOL!

don't worry brother...bbq is however YOU want to make it, as long as it tastes good, trust me, no one that is eating it gives two rat's asses how you made it.


Dam Skippy:cool:

Bamabuzzard
12-02-2009, 09:49 PM
A tool bag he is. He's one of those that criticizes everything and everybody. He's my wife's uncle but not by blood, only by marriage. If my kids and other adults that I respect hadn't of been there I'd showed my azz and told him what I really thought but I decided not to. But the time and place will present itself and I will say something to him.


i'd love to see a picture of this tool...i'll bet he looks exactly how i'm picturing him! LOL!

don't worry brother...bbq is however YOU want to make it, as long as it tastes good, trust me, no one that is eating it gives two rat's asses how you made it.

tmcmaster
12-03-2009, 01:01 AM
I always just assumed that if anyone told me what 'REAL" anything was, they were talking out of the wrong hole...

BBQ is REAL is...

(Any questions?)

NRA4Life
12-03-2009, 05:30 AM
Sounds like someone who would be permanently OFF my guest list for future BBQ events.

Smokey Al Gold
12-03-2009, 07:46 AM
Some people need to have some farking manners and just keep your mouth shut and be happy you're getting a free meal. Like what was said earlier when I'm at another man's house I'm sure not as hell going to tell him what or how to do anything because it is simply rude. So when someone is at my house it is my way and that is that. Be happy I'm going through the trouble (we all know its our obsession) of "bbqing" for you.

Lake Dogs
12-03-2009, 08:03 AM
If he don't have nothing nice to say he shouldn't say anything! You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your relatives.
If the native americans originated bbq, and pigs were brought by the spanish, then how can true bbq only be pork...what did they use?

Deer.

jswordy
12-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Real barbecue is what tastes best to the beholder. That there is a wide, wide range of tastes. What I hear most when I do UDS smoking around here is that it doesn't taste smoky enough. People crave and are used to all-wood smokes. That's how I was taught, that "real" is done over all-wood, which is how the DBS rolls. And yet there is a thread active here right now in which someone is quoted dismissing that as a novice mistake.

Now you take that all-wood smoked meat that everyone down in these parts loves best and distribute it among "gourmet barbecuers," and they will tell you it has been "oversmoked."

I have actually received a withering critique of my butts by PM based on a picture of what they looked like just before they were pulled off the DBS. :grin: Now that there is funny.

That man was being rude if he was eating your stuff up and dissing it at the same time, however. That is beyond the pale. :mad:

But since what's "real" is what you think it is, I wouldn't pay him any mind. :-D Life is good!

Jay Bird
12-03-2009, 01:12 PM
I am at a loss for words concerning such rude manners & lack of appreciation of someone offering their hospitality. I can only say ditto,ditto to all of the above.

Mark
12-03-2009, 01:53 PM
By any chance was the guy a self proclaimed adobo expert from Arizona?

jestridge
12-03-2009, 06:09 PM
The world a stage and full of douch bags!! by W Shakespeare

bam
12-03-2009, 06:38 PM
Bamabuzzard it's your fault when dealing with a jack-ass what you expect? Just smile and get a cold one. I use a rub but after it's pulled or chopped. In foil tray I add a mixture of apple juice,vinegar,h2o and rub.

TexaQ
12-03-2009, 06:54 PM
You just can't fix stupid.

MillerTime
12-03-2009, 07:20 PM
You're a better man than I. I would have said something and I would be in the dog house with my wife right now. Especially if I had a few beers in me. Idiots! Every family has at least one.

soup
12-03-2009, 08:23 PM
Buy him a new crockpot and some cheap sauce for christmas and tell him to go make his own "real" bbq!

1969x11
12-03-2009, 08:56 PM
You're a better man than I. I would have said something and I would be in the dog house with my wife right now. Especially if I had a few beers in me. Idiots! Every family has at least one.
Amen, every family has the jackass who either knows it all or has done it all, and thinks everyone wants to hear about it. Hell I'm that guy in our family... just kidding. I would have also told him to stick it and been in the dog house for a few nights.

wlh3
12-04-2009, 10:37 AM
I would have just ignored him. People that say things of that nature are not worth the time or the tension.:icon_bigsmil

jswordy
12-04-2009, 12:31 PM
You just can't fix stupid.

(slapping my knee) I heard that! You got that right! :mrgreen:

mgwerks
12-04-2009, 02:50 PM
Just get a skinny rack of those crappy Danish imported ribs, boil 'em nice and tender for him, glaze them up with a bottle of Kraft BBQ sauce. That's all of your BBQ he deserves.