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kwantz
08-31-2009, 09:40 PM
Lately Its been really windy here where i live, so its a bitch to get the coals started just useing plain newpaper in a chimney starer, is there anything bad with using lightfluid on some of the sheets of paper to get the paper going easier so the wind doesnt blow out the flame? I have been doing it all week i dont notice and taste difference, i find the coals light even faster this way, makes the air stink a bit, but only for a few seconds.

txschutte
08-31-2009, 09:44 PM
Get a weedburner, my friend.

Kevin
08-31-2009, 09:46 PM
A little vegetable oil on the paper works, and does not smell of petroleum distillate.

jazzspot
08-31-2009, 09:48 PM
+1 for the weed burner.

bbq-slut
09-01-2009, 06:58 AM
A little vegetable oil on the paper works, and does not smell of petroleum distillate.


I was going to suggest the same thing. Been doing that for years. But be forewarned don't use to much oil as it can generate an absolutely ungodly amount of smoke. One time when we did this. My son did not realize that I had already put oil on the paper so he added some more oil and then proceeded to add the charcoal and lit the paper. The smoke was so thick that The fire department actually showed up. It was a calm day and the smoke unfortunately did not dissipate very quickly. It was actually kind of funny watching everyone scrambling to shut the windows to the house.

The other thing you can do is use Alcohol in an empty tuna can under the coals in the chimney. I use the Stove type of Alcohol they sell for boat stoves and it works great. Its the only thing I have found that really works well if you are only lighting 5 or 10 coals to say start a Kamado. The alcohol burns very hot and really gets the coals going.

CraigC
09-01-2009, 07:39 AM
Gulf Wax is your friend! LOL We made fire starters out of parafin dipped, rolled newspaper when I was in Boy Scouts. They worked great.

Craig

BBQ Grail
09-01-2009, 07:48 AM
First a little cooking oil is the way to go.

Second, it doesn't take much to create a windbreak for a charcoal chimney. The bag of charcoal will do in a pinch.

ipls3355
09-01-2009, 07:55 AM
I'm in on the cooking oil method

Ashmont
09-01-2009, 07:56 AM
I have lopped some lard one time started right away but man I had billowing white smoke for 15 min......

Smokin Turkey
09-01-2009, 07:59 AM
+2 for the weed burner! Even if you have a small propane stove, side burner, or torch. These can all be simple chimney starters. Lighter fluid is for drunken bonfires. Not for cooking food on!

rocketmanray
09-01-2009, 08:25 AM
+3 for the weed burner...

....it's kind of like the "Fire for effect" call in the Army when you for ALL the artillery in one spot.....

Everyone in the neighborhood knows what you're up to, and I don't mind them coming over to watch, the admission is one cold beer for me too.

RMR

jlough69
09-01-2009, 08:28 AM
A little vegetable oil on the paper works, and does not smell of petroleum distillate.

A good way to use up old cooking oil and avoid that lighter fluid.

gpalasz
09-01-2009, 08:44 AM
I have one of the little benzomatic hand held tourch that uses the small propane tanks. Fill your chimney, hold the torch at the bottom it wont take long for the chimney to catch. Sometimes the wind can be a real beatch.

Anthony
09-01-2009, 08:48 AM
Veg. oil is gonna be your best bet... you don't cook with lighterfluid so why would you use it? Ball up some papertowels, put it on a bed of coals, start to build your pyramid, and when almost to the top pour a little veggie oil on the paertowels, finish your pyramid, and what I do just to start the fire, I put a touch of lighterfluid. I promise it will get your coals nice and hot and you don't have to worry about drowning it with fluid.

bbq-slut
09-01-2009, 08:57 AM
I see a lot of replies recommending the weed burner. I have used this method and to be honest I had to stop using it. The comments from my guests and neighbors were kind of embarrassing. It's really something you would expect to see Tim the Tool Man using. Just a bit of over kill. Nothing like starting your charcoal with a flame thrower that sounds like a rocket taking off accompanied by a shower of sparks worthy of a fireworks display.. :lol:

Back when I used the flame thrower to light my charcoal I had a T-shirt made up that said " The only good use for Propane is lighting my Charcoal" It had a caricature of me lighting my weber Kettle grill with a flame thrower. I had that shirt made up to mess with one of my neighbors who was so pro propane that he made Hank hill look mild. He would not eat anything cooked on an old rubber tire as he put it. (charcoal) what do you expect from someone who makes pulled pork in a crock pot with liquid smoke.

While I did stop using the Flame thrower I did find something called a jiffy torch. It's about twice the size of a standard propane torch tip and it connects right up to a 5 gallon propane tank. I have used this extensively before they changed the damn adapters on the propane tanks. It only took about 10 seconds of flame to get them going and a 5 gallon tank of propane lasted a very long time. I BBQ 2 to 4 times a week year round and a tank lasted me well over a 2 years. My weed burner would have eaten that tank up in no time but it sure was fun

ThomEmery
09-01-2009, 09:07 AM
Plus 4 Weed Burner
Heck of a show

Norcoredneck
09-01-2009, 09:25 AM
I see a lot of replies recommending the weed burner. I have used this method and to be honest I had to stop using it. The comments from my guests and neighbors were kind of embarrassing. It's really something you would expect to see Tim the Tool Man using. Just a bit of over kill. Nothing like starting your charcoal with a flame thrower that sounds like a rocket taking off accompanied by a shower of sparks worthy of a fireworks display.. :lol:

Back when I used the flame thrower to light my charcoal I had a T-shirt made up that said " The only good use for Propane is lighting my Charcoal" It had a caricature of me lighting my weber Kettle grill with a flame thrower. I had that shirt made up to mess with one of my neighbors who was so pro propane that he made Hank hill look mild. He would not eat anything cooked on an old rubber tire as he put it. (charcoal) what do you expect from someone who makes pulled pork in a crock pot with liquid smoke.

While I did stop using the Flame thrower I did find something called a jiffy torch. It's about twice the size of a standard propane torch tip and it connects right up to a 5 gallon propane tank. I have used this extensively before they changed the damn adapters on the propane tanks. It only took about 10 seconds of flame to get them going and a 5 gallon tank of propane lasted a very long time. I BBQ 2 to 4 times a week year round and a tank lasted me well over a 2 years. My weed burner would have eaten that tank up in no time but it sure was fun


If you can't handle the big guns.
http://www.amazon.com/Propane-Torch-2-Extra-Nozzle/dp/B000TBS2RS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1251811482&sr=8-5


http://www.amazon.com/Rafael-4-Pcs-Propane-Torch/dp/B0012Y2CH2/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1251811572&sr=8-31

bam
09-01-2009, 09:57 AM
I used Weber starter cubes and veg oil on newspaper in the past. Then I grew up got a weed burner plus 5.

Norcoredneck
09-01-2009, 10:08 AM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k296/norcoredneck/IMG_0220-1.jpg

Tweedle
09-01-2009, 10:26 AM
can you use lighter fluid to start the fire when you burn out a drum to build a UDS?
+6 or whatever for the weeed burner. My wife thought i was crazy for using it until I found this forum... thanks guys!

P.S. A weed burner is a wise investment you can use it for so many things from lighting charcoal to ciggaretts to plowing the drivway in the winter to weeding the garden to scaring the neigbors off the property.... :-0

nzrebel
09-01-2009, 10:35 AM
[quote=bbq-slut;1013556]I see a lot of replies recommending the weed burner. I have used this method and to be honest I had to stop using it. The comments from my guests and neighbors were kind of embarrassing. It's really something you would expect to see Tim the Tool Man using. Just a bit of over kill. Nothing like starting your charcoal with a flame thrower that sounds like a rocket taking off accompanied by a shower of sparks worthy of a fireworks display.. :lol:



Dang, I'm going out today to get one of them...:twisted:


Dave

nzrebel
09-01-2009, 10:36 AM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k296/norcoredneck/IMG_0220-1.jpg


Oh yeah, I could use that for the 4th of July fireworks as well....


Dave

Divemaster
09-01-2009, 10:53 AM
I too like the weed burner, especially for my offset... I also like using a turkey fryer for when I just need a single chimney of coals....

Never like starter fluid....

Mo-Dave
09-01-2009, 03:01 PM
The veg oil on some newspaper works very well never had to restart one using that, But I like using the weed burner because I not only can get the lump going fast I also use it to burn of the cooking grates and pre heat the smoker. And I like knowing my neighbors must think I am nuts.
Dave

WannaBeBBQueen
09-01-2009, 03:09 PM
8, 9 or whatever for a weed burner...their cheap too!!

BIG ALAN
09-01-2009, 03:27 PM
BBQ Slut, what's a jiffy torch? Pic?

Old Hippie
09-01-2009, 03:32 PM
I see a lot of replies recommending the weed burner. I have used this method and to be honest I had to stop using it. The comments from my guests and neighbors were kind of embarrassing.

Sounds like you need some different guest and neighbors.
OR use a plumber's propane torch.

big brother smoke
09-01-2009, 03:37 PM
+10 on the weed burner! Not sure, I would use that to light a cigarette though :shock:

Msilva
09-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Well i use a small torch. But have been told that Pam works great. I suppose similar to Veg oil. And you can spray down your grill with it if need be.

Gotta go and get me one of them torches and possibly another 5 gal tank. This could be trouble.

Phubar
09-01-2009, 03:45 PM
A little vegetable oil on the paper works, and does not smell of petroleum distillate.


Does the job!

Countryhb
09-01-2009, 04:07 PM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k296/norcoredneck/IMG_0220-1.jpg
This picture is a perfect example of why Slut DOESN'T want to use a weedburner...who wants to look like that lunatic?!?!

peaspurple
09-01-2009, 04:15 PM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k296/norcoredneck/IMG_0220-1.jpg


Dayum norco, You always have the really cool toys!!:-D

Norcoredneck
09-01-2009, 04:16 PM
I thoughy the weedburner toned down my urges.

Ron_L
09-01-2009, 04:28 PM
you don't cook with lighterfluid so why would you use it?

and what I do just to start the fire, I put a touch of lighterfluid.

Ummm... What's wrong with this picture? :-D

I use either the Weber starter cubes (bought a bunch on sale at the end of last "season") or a paper towel with veggie oil.

Countryhb
09-01-2009, 04:51 PM
Is that a "neck beard" in that picture, Pat???? SEXY!

kwantz
09-01-2009, 05:06 PM
What I have been doing, is useing a Huge WAD of paper maybe 10-15 sheets, rolled up in a tight donut, and spray a tiny bit of lighter fluid on the paper (not the coals) to get the fire going, i find it gets the paper going haywire, and find it lights over twice as fast than not using it to help ignite the paper, there is a bit of a stinky smell for the first 5 seconds,,, thats about it, and i notice zero petrolium taste either,,, I only do this on really wind days, or when im in a bit of a hurry or really hungry, it cuts the starting time almost in half,

leanza
09-01-2009, 05:26 PM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k296/norcoredneck/IMG_0220-1.jpg

Pat, any truth to the rumor about you and half of So. California burning right now? When I look to the horizon your way I see a lot of smoke in the air.

jmccann
09-01-2009, 05:38 PM
I've been using dried pine cones as starter! they work great after being dried / stored for several months. Ever seen an XMas tree go up?

Msilva
09-01-2009, 05:42 PM
When in a pinch some gasoline from the lawn mower always works great.

Chuckwagonbbqco
09-01-2009, 05:50 PM
Save lint out of the lint trap in your dryer. Kepp it in a sealed container--I use 35mm film canisters. Add a few drops of lighter fluid--like is used in zippo lighters. Stuff the lint ball in the middle of your paper wad. It will give the paper burn a kick start. Or you could always buy a weed burner

jrb03
09-01-2009, 06:06 PM
If you dont have a flame thrower or turkey fryer, get yourself a chafing dish burner. Forget the lighter fluid and paper. They cost around $1 and last forever. It doesnt get much windier than it is down here, and they dont ******* on me.

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bbq-slut
09-01-2009, 10:55 PM
I've been using dried pine cones as starter! they work great after being dried / stored for several months. Ever seen an XMas tree go up?

How funny I thought, I was the only one who ever tried that! Unfortunately where I'm at now I don't have a good supply of pine cones. I would have to go find them but they do work great.

firecracker jack
09-02-2009, 10:24 AM
I used to use newspaper to get the chimney going, but didnt' like it when it smelled like burning trash for a few minutes...Always had it in mind to find a the burner from a campers stove, or a single burner unit that back packers use, rig it up some how to allow you to set your chimney starter on top of it and fire away...Now, I'm able to use the propane fired side burners on my Diamond plate 60, and it works great...Might be worth the effort to find an old, inexpensive propane burner and make it work....Maybe include in the fabrication of the burner assembly some sort of shield to block the wind. It would certainly take a little doing to get it built...But if your going to use it all the time, might be worthwhile.

firecrackerjack

mrwicks
09-02-2009, 10:39 AM
i use pam and paper towels....works great......but i may get the weed burner....."Melting Ice on the sidewalk" will stop the missus from thinking im crazy for buying it

Wornslick
09-02-2009, 11:09 AM
In my baby Stump I just wad up a couple of sheets of newspaper, put it in the ash pan, make sure there is lump in the chute and light the paper. Works great. Anything else I use a chimney, I haven't used lighter fluid for years and years. :-D

SirPorkaLot
09-02-2009, 11:18 AM
Maybe it's just me, but .....gas from the lawn mower?? lighter fluid??
Propane??

All just to light a fire to COOK with.

Sounds like someone should have paid attention in boy scouts...

Ok here is what i do, and granted I have never attempted this in a hurricane, but.....

I use my handy Weber 22.5" kettle and set my charcoal chimney on it with two sheets (no more, no less) of newspaper (for all those who don't know - they use soy ink in newspapers and have for many years - so it is paper [wood] and soy ink). If the wind is up I use the top to the kettle as a wind break, by leaning it up against the chimney.

Yes sometimes I have to re-light, but seldom if ever do i have to do it more than twice.

The quality of your charcoal makes a huge difference too.
Some of that stuff you NEED a weed burner to get going.

And say what you want...for those of you who use lighter fluid - I challenge you to do this: after the cook is done, and your ashes cool-off..take a good whiff of them...smell that? Yup, it is the residue of the lighter fluid you smell - still there, long after the charcoal is done for.

Hugh Jorgan
09-02-2009, 12:33 PM
Vegetable oil spray on paper towels, newspapers, the inside of the charcoal bag.....

PatioDaddio
09-02-2009, 01:02 PM
The folks at Packaging Service Co. (makers of Frontier and Jack Daniel's charcoal) sent me a bunch of stuff to review for my blog. Among them, they sent me a bottle of this:

Frontier® Eco-Start® Charcoal Lighter Fuel

http://www.packserv.com/Data/Products/449194856.jpg

Eco-Start® is a 100% natural, non-petroleum based lighter gel. It is a safe and clean-fuel alternative to traditional lighter fluid. This earth-friendly gel is made from renewable energy sources. Smokeless and odorless, Eco-Start® keeps fumes out of the cooking area and the petroleum taste away from the food. Since it's a gel, there's no splash when applying or flare-ups when lighting.

I tried it twice this past weekend in a standard Weber chimney and I love the stuff! You add a few coals, lay on a ribbon of the gel (maybe 2-3 tablespoons), then add some more coals and light. There were no fumes and it fired right up.

It's made largely from ethanol and cellulose fiber.

The product is available at the following retailers, at a suggested retail of $4.99-$5.99:

Ace Hardware (and www.acehardwareoutlet.com)
Brookshire Grocery
Meijer
Raley's
Whole Foods

John

C-Town Smoker
09-02-2009, 01:13 PM
That sounds like a cool item, Patio!!

SirPorkaLot
09-02-2009, 01:21 PM
Thanks for the Tip Patio!

I may run down to the local whole foods and give it shot.

PatioDaddio
09-02-2009, 01:25 PM
No problem. The Frontier 100% natural hardwood lump briquettes are pretty good, too.

John

PatioDaddio
09-02-2009, 05:47 PM
FYI - I added the Eco-Start retailers and pricing above.

John

SirPorkaLot
09-03-2009, 04:17 PM
No problem. The Frontier 100% natural hardwood lump briquettes are pretty good, too.

John

Have you reviewed the Frontier Hardwood Charcoal briquettes also or just the lump?

PatioDaddio
09-03-2009, 04:32 PM
No problem. The Frontier 100% natural hardwood lump briquettes are pretty good, too.

Have you reviewed the Frontier Hardwood Charcoal briquettes also or just the lump?

Um... That would be the "briquettes" part. :shock: :wink:

John

Smokin Turkey
09-04-2009, 07:04 AM
I just scored a 22.5" weber one touch platinum last night from a guy who included a 1/2 bag of kingsford, 2 bags of match light and 2 full bottles of lighter fluid. All his coals went to the camp fire last night along with one bottle of the nasty stuff. The last bottle will also go to the camp fire gods and will never again harm my new weber!

This poor thing is starting to relax but I found it rocking back and forth in the fetal position at this guys place saying.. "he started dousing me in gasoline"