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Thawley
08-02-2009, 09:13 PM
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Burnig coals – very hot

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Make shift heat shield/baffle/diffuser – 10x10x0.25" mild steel plate

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Fire basket & diffuser in their native environment

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U-bakem biscuits – the natural enemy of burning coals

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Ritual of sacrifice


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It's a little warmer on the west side. (Photo taken facing south) Ironically, the air inlets below the grate are at 12 & 6 o'clock. Heat should be even from east to west. I can only assume that the Earth's rotation is somehow affecting the combustion airflow. No doubt the heat distribution would be reversed in the southern hemisphere.

Saiko
08-02-2009, 09:17 PM
Wow, pretty big difference between the left side and the right side. What do you think is the cause? It's a verticle smoker, so it seems like the temps should have been more consistent. Maybe a circular heat shield larger than the diameter of the charcoal basket would even things out, dunno.

mranum
08-02-2009, 10:10 PM
Is the change anywhere near the exhaust vent? That could maybe do it.

Thawley
08-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Exhaust is centered. Though I suppose it's possible the bend somehow affects the airflow, I kind of doubt it. Besides – that bend keeps the rain out. It's staying.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Fs0Aqt5aOW0/SnYx2y3TlxI/AAAAAAAAAPM/xMMu77h6X1Y/s720/IMG_1151.JPG

landarc
08-02-2009, 10:25 PM
It might be worth doing another test just to make sure of the results. Maybe even turn the shield 45 degrees and see what happens.

Thawley
08-02-2009, 11:11 PM
To be honest, this is a big improvement over what it did without the steel plate. I did the same a while back (before iPhone) so no photos. But the center of the grate was WAY hotter than the edges.

Still got a ways to go though.

Kubbie
08-02-2009, 11:44 PM
Interesting test. I need to try this a few times. (Plate, no plate, changing exhaust position...)

Noticed it again yesterday on a load of ABT's. One side was get done faster. I would spin the rack and rotate the lid so the exhaust would be in a different part. (Sorry - no after pic on this load - and as fast as they went, I needed to make about 3 times as much!)


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I have a shorter but wider basket - about 17" wide and 5" of height.
You can just see in the second pic that when I start it in the middle, it doesn't always work itself out evenly in the first few hours or the burn (or if I have something smoking that is a heavy dripper)

I thought it was my 2" exhaust that is to the side (flat lid). Need to get to know the drum better.

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HoosierTrooper
08-03-2009, 05:30 AM
I added a grate 4 inched above the charcoal basket with a foiled water pan setting on it, WSM style, as a diffuser. I have 8 1/2 inch holes in the lid and never noticed any hot spots but since adding the pan I really like the results better than when the fat was dripping on the coals and wood.

Bbq Bubba
08-03-2009, 05:39 AM
It's obvious your drum is sitting crooked. This explains everything. :twisted:

Rick's Tropical Delight
08-03-2009, 05:44 AM
the west side is always warmer after noon. :biggrin:

did you eat those muffins or throw them at passsing cars?

Thawley
08-03-2009, 10:01 AM
did you eat those muffins or throw them at passsing cars?
Butter & syrup for breakfast baby...

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Hog Warden
08-03-2009, 11:45 AM
Thawley:

Great information! I have concluded the UDS is about as idiot proof and reliable as anything I've ever used to cook with.....but all things can be improved on and I've been thinking for a while these things need a baffle of some type to separate the meat from the fire.

My unit....

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/haudsley/Picture095-1.jpg

Ash pan is a lid from a 30 gallon drum. Last smoke of baby backs, I used the ash pan from my ECB, setting the charcoal basket in that, and the 30 gallon lid on top of the charcoal basket. Worked just as well and eliminated some of the "blackened" look and taste, and some of the "burnt" smell coming from the stack during the smoke....

End results.....

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/haudsley/Picture192.jpg

Up next is a full packer brisket......same process.

HW (Who has been Matchlight free for years.......)

mgwerks
08-03-2009, 05:46 PM
Any chance there was a breeze blowing? That would cool the windward side a tad.

Countryhb
08-03-2009, 05:59 PM
Besides – that bend keeps the rain out.

So that bend works twice a year??? You sure you don't mean that the bend keeps the sprinkler out???

Thawley
08-03-2009, 08:38 PM
So that bend works twice a year???
Dude, my bend works every time.

Norcoredneck
08-04-2009, 03:20 AM
So that bend works twice a year??? You sure you don't mean that the bend keeps the sprinkler out???

Dude, my bend works every time.

Sounds like an invitation!:eek:

Thawley
02-06-2010, 03:15 PM
Sounds like an invitation!:eek:
No way Jose'.

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HeSmellsLikeSmoke
02-06-2010, 03:33 PM
How were the air intakes set up for the biscuit test?

Thawley
02-06-2010, 03:45 PM
How were the air intakes set up for the biscuit test?
Click on the UUDS link in my sig. I've got an atypical setup...

TrustTheDust
02-06-2010, 03:59 PM
It's a little warmer on the west side. (Photo taken facing south) Ironically, the air inlets below the grate are at 12 & 6 o'clock. Heat should be even from east to west. I can only assume that the Earth's rotation is somehow affecting the combustion airflow. No doubt the heat distribution would be reversed in the southern hemisphere.

Wait a minute, is this an el niño or la niña year?

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
02-06-2010, 04:12 PM
Click on the UUDS link in my sig. I've got an atypical setup...

Dang, I should have remembered that. Did the hot side of the biscuit test relate to the location of the larger bung hole by any chance? Or was one bung hole more open than the other?

Thawley
02-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Dang, I should have remembered that. Did the hot side of the biscuit test relate to the location of the larger bung hole by any chance? Or was one bung hole more open than the other?

From page-one:
It's a little warmer on the west side. (Photo taken facing south) Ironically, the air inlets below the grate are at 12 & 6 o'clock. Heat should be even from east to west. I can only assume that the Earth's rotation is somehow affecting the combustion airflow. No doubt the heat distribution would be reversed in the southern hemisphere.

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
02-06-2010, 05:11 PM
:redface:From page-one:

TrustTheDust
02-06-2010, 06:04 PM
There, I fixed it.
http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/1290797104238847681.jpg?w=500&h=375

sdb25
02-06-2010, 09:05 PM
Come on guys, this is drum cooking. Don't overthink it, and certainly don't think you're the first to come up with your "mods". Build it by the book, use it, learn it, realize the fancy stuff can't make it better. 'nuff said.