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bigmeatbbq
02-21-2008, 10:31 AM
Went to a local scrap yard to get a piece of expanded steel for my fire box in my uds. Found a piece about 4.5' x 4.5'. When I went to pay for it they wanted $30.00 for it. It sounded high to me. They took $25.00 for it because they could'nt break a 100 dollar bill.(had that and a twenty and a five.) Did I get screwed? I've no idea what expanded steel goes for new, let alone from a scrapyard.

N8man
02-21-2008, 10:34 AM
12.99 at Home Depot for 12"x24".. So not a bad deal.....

RichardF
02-21-2008, 10:35 AM
I don't know what scrap yard pricing should be, but at the big box home improvments stores you would have never found a piece that big and it would have cost a lot more on a per square foot basis.

bigmeatbbq
02-21-2008, 10:36 AM
I feel better at least. Will post pics of project"UDS"

N8man
02-21-2008, 10:38 AM
Sorry I typed faster than my brain can reason...I don't think it is a bad deal
At first I thought it read 4.5"x4.5"....My Bad!!!!!:cry:

RichardF
02-21-2008, 10:41 AM
12.99 at Home Depot for 12"x24".. So not a bad
deal.....

I think this post was edited :wink:

that explains my inability to sit since then....be the last time I go there. wish i knew that nate. HD about an hour away from me.

and you can sit down again. You paid $.81 sq/ft, HD's price is $6.50 sq/ft

N8man
02-21-2008, 10:46 AM
I promise from now on to wear my glasses when I read...and before I respond!!!!!:wink:

BRTLATJGT
02-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Just got a 4' x 8' sheet for $35.

thirdeye
02-21-2008, 11:09 AM
Went to a local scrap yard to get a piece of expanded steel for my fire box in my uds. Found a piece about 4.5' x 4.5'. When I went to pay for it they wanted $30.00 for it. It sounded high to me. They took $25.00 for it because they could'nt break a 100 dollar bill.(had that and a twenty and a five.) Did I get screwed? I've no idea what expanded steel goes for new, let alone from a scrapyard.

Cost of metal is based on the price per pound with a coefficient built in for various shapes. Steel dealers or combo steel/recyclers add money for a cutting charge if you don't buy the whole piece. Usually this is charged off to the 1st buyer. Now here is where the individual dealer may have different policy.... The leftovers, which are called "drops" have to be stored and handled more than once. In most cases they are not as valuable because of their odd size, so some places give good deals on the drops. However, it's possible that they see an opportunity when a non-regular customer comes in looking for a specific size that is common to the drop pile......

If you have two dealers you can check prices between them, if not dickering with them is not out of the question.

bbqbull
02-21-2008, 12:01 PM
Does make a big difference on the price per sq. foot if its stainless or regular steel also.

h20loo
02-21-2008, 12:11 PM
I pay $60 for a 4x8 1/2" expanded (new)

jrb03
02-21-2008, 12:24 PM
I recently bought 4 pieces of 12"x48" expanded metal on ebay for $42 including shipping. If my math is good, thats roughly the same size as you got, and yours was cheaper. You win http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

keale
02-21-2008, 12:27 PM
Quit Grumbling!!:-P My HD doesn't carry expanded metal, went to a metal shop.....4 x 8??? $96.00!!!:eek::eek:

milehigh
02-21-2008, 12:36 PM
They were asking about $60.00 here for a 4 x 8 sheet and didn't have any drops when i looked monday. And then there are island prices.

The_Kapn
02-21-2008, 12:36 PM
By my computations, you paid $18.32 less than the best price I can find.
So--go buy a case of Brewskies and celebrate :lol:

Seriously, ya done good.

TIM

Bottles 'n Bones BBQ
02-21-2008, 12:37 PM
3 bucks a square foot at the local machine shop, $68.50 for the sheet...

lazyjacres
02-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Ask Spice, he sells the stuff wholesale. Jay, whatta you get for 4.5' X 4.5'?

RichardF
02-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Are we done making the new-guy feel better :wink:

bigmeatbbq
02-21-2008, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Everyone here is always willing to help.

From,
"The New Guy"

spicewine
02-21-2008, 02:01 PM
Ask Spice, he sells the stuff wholesale. Jay, whatta you get for 4.5' X 4.5'?



$ 1.52 a sq ft. or $30.78 for a 4.5' X 4.5' New 3/4 # 9 ( heavy stuff )

The Pigman
02-21-2008, 02:53 PM
Dont know about expanded metal but went to scrap yard to pick up some stainless 1 1/2" by 1 1/2" tube for the frame of my wash rack and it was $3.00 lb. Now I know thats a rip but had to have it.

gotwood
02-21-2008, 03:07 PM
Went to a local scrap yard to get a piece of expanded steel for my fire box in my uds. Found a piece about 4.5' x 4.5'. When I went to pay for it they wanted $30.00 for it. It sounded high to me. They took $25.00 for it because they could'nt break a 100 dollar bill.(had that and a twenty and a five.) Did I get screwed? I've no idea what expanded steel goes for new, let alone from a scrapyard.
what guage/size??
think I paid 3.50/sq. ft. for 9 or 10 ga. so you got a good deal if it was thick gauge

The Pigman
02-21-2008, 03:16 PM
what guage/size??
think I paid 3.50/sq. ft. for 9 or 10 ga. so you got a good deal if it was thick gauge
It is thick gauge dont exactely remember the size but my welder liked it. and I was wrong before the 1 1/2" by 1 1/2" was the frame of the base. The stainless was 2" by 2"

tony76248
02-21-2008, 03:17 PM
Most places here in the DFW area will sell metal by the pound. The economy is still rather robust so that might have something to do with it. I have been paying $.50 per pound at Westex metals which is an upper end scrap yard. Meaning nothing they have scrap but they will buy cutoffs from other metal shops and resell it. Everything is neatly on racks and they will also make cuts at $2 per cut. It is probably the nicest metal yard I have ever been to. Great employees and great selection of material too.

Bentley
02-21-2008, 03:20 PM
Most places here in the DFW area will sell metal by the pound. The economy is still rather robust so that might have something to do with it. I have been paying $.50 per pound at Westex metals which is an upper end scrap yard.


Same here in LA. Paid .50 lb for 3/4 expanded scrap. I think it was about 40# for a 4x8 so I got it for about $20. Bobco Metals

Dale P
02-21-2008, 03:24 PM
Where I live a metal guys wouldnt cut a fart for $2.

DryCreek
02-21-2008, 04:13 PM
At our local steel yard the 4 x 8 sheet of 1/2 inch 13 gauge flat expanded metal is $50.10 retail and the 16 ga is $30.61

Rob

thillin
02-21-2008, 04:53 PM
Most places here in the DFW area will sell metal by the pound. The economy is still rather robust so that might have something to do with it. I have been paying $.50 per pound at Westex metals which is an upper end scrap yard. Meaning nothing they have scrap but they will buy cutoffs from other metal shops and resell it. Everything is neatly on racks and they will also make cuts at $2 per cut. It is probably the nicest metal yard I have ever been to. Great employees and great selection of material too.

Where are they located? I need some angle iron.

txschutte
02-21-2008, 04:57 PM
$ 1.52 a sq ft. or $30.78 for a 4.5' X 4.5' New 3/4 # 9 ( heavy stuff )
I say you got hosed. If it were new, I'd say ok. I pay a bit lower than Jay, 1.48/ft for the saME STUF, new.

bigmeatbbq
02-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Mine came out to 81 cents a sq. ft. it is used but after the first burn it will still look used. never accurred to me that i needed new...j/k

txschutte
02-21-2008, 05:05 PM
I prefer new steel when I'm welding grates together is all.

Coz
02-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Fellas,if you are sittin on the fence on a project that involves metal its going to get worse.Our suppliers have raised prices 25% in the last month.We use about a semi load a day.Sure makes quoting and requoting a busy job.We get our tube direct from the mill by the semi load and the quality is getting worse.It looks to me like the Fabrication industry is on the verge of taking off again.

thenewguy
02-21-2008, 05:48 PM
There's also a lot of metal/fabrication shops going on the auction blocks lately too. Tough times are here for many.
$2 a cut is the going rate in my area as well, as anything your milage may vary.

jestridge
02-21-2008, 05:58 PM
Scrap metal is now bring around 1.45 here

chinesebob
02-21-2008, 07:37 PM
Check your area for small fabricators. There's one around the corner from me and I got a 4'x8' for about 40.00. I only go to the hardware store if I have too. HF is sneaky, cheap on the big items high on the little things. Valves, castors, etc. Much higher than HD. Lately HD has been cheaper on items if you look in odd places. I found valves in the contractor section that were cheaper than the ones in the "general" plumbing area. Same thing, no id required. Just cheaper.

Generally I go to the source with the hardware stores as a last resort. I did find replacement grills for weber's on sale at HD for 9.00 for the top and 10 for the fire grate. That's about half what lowes and the other places were charging.

smokeandbeer
02-21-2008, 08:10 PM
The stuff I get is from Ace and it runs about $24 for a 16x32 sheet, so I think you got a good deal.

jestridge
02-21-2008, 09:07 PM
The only metal I use is junk. The cooker I posted tonight cost nothing. Got it all out of junks bins.