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Sid Post
12-05-2017, 06:22 AM
Looking at the Humphrey's Saturday Special Edition (https://humphreysbbq.myshopify.com/pages/the-saturday-special-edition) and the Smokin-it Model 2 (http://www.smokin-it.com/Smoker-p/smkmdl2.htm), I got to wondering if these are really practical for most people.

Their prices certainly put them within reach of many people but, unless you are a bachelor or newly married couple without children, I wonder if these make enough food to be worth the effort?

I must admit though, throwing a foil packet with some soaked wood chips on an electric element has appealed to me off and on for a long time. :redface:

Dweverett
12-05-2017, 06:36 AM
No personal experience but I'd say the majority of my cooks would fit. Rarely do more than 2 buts at a time for instance. I personally wouldn't want it to be my only smoker as I sometimes need more space but for some it would be enough. Also, would be something I'd consider as a second (or fifth) smoker that was more portable, was more hands off than a stick burner for times when that was an advantage etc

pjtexas1
12-05-2017, 08:51 AM
Should work for 2 people. I have the Red Box and it works except for briskets over 8 pounds. Butts will fit. This brisket was 5 pounds. Ribs have to be put in at an angle.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/df34d617cb2c584f89a277f3b57e9f1e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/ebaeacac044c159d530ab6874e5af9ec.jpg

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Mikhail
12-05-2017, 09:06 AM
Seems like a lot of money for such a small space. I suppose quality would matter with the Humphrey which seems to have reasonable capacity. On the Smokin' It they don't even show you the inside. Can't imagine why I would buy one not knowing that.

I can do two butts and maybe a rack of ribs on my PK, a 15 lb brisket, several racks of ribs, as much pork or chicken as I would ever need.

mcyork28
12-05-2017, 09:11 AM
I don't think I would want something that small as my primary cooker but if I had a something else with decent capacity something like that might be nice.

Can you fit a rack of ribs in there without cutting it in half?

Sid Post
12-05-2017, 10:26 AM
I can't speak for anyone else but, in my case, it certainly would not be my "only" or my "first" smoker. On the other hand, how many times would I put a big turkey in a WSM or cook several racks of ribs at once? Being essentially hands off, I could see it getting used more frequently than something with more setup time requiring more tending during the cook.

The Smokin-It #1 seems like more of a 'toaster oven' sized unit to me so, I question how practical it is for smoking. The Humphreys Weekender / Long Weekender is certainly more practical in terms of size and capacity but, it is also significantly more expensive. I'm sure both of them would fit in the trunk of a small car but, they wouldn't leave much room for anything else and their greater weight would be an issue as well. On the flip side, how often would most people load them up for a trip somewhere? Interesting concept though if the capacities of these small units fit your needs and the $500~700 price point is within reach.

mtime7
12-05-2017, 11:04 AM
I have a cookshack smokette, (I think thats what it is called) bought it used and it works fine for pork shoulder, beef plate, 2 racks of ribs. Too small for a packer, but can do a point. I like to use it when I have to leave the house for an extended amount of time.

bonz50
12-05-2017, 01:18 PM
WSM? pretty good bang for the buck it seems.

70monte
12-05-2017, 01:24 PM
Seems like a lot of money for such a small space. I suppose quality would matter with the Humphrey which seems to have reasonable capacity. On the Smokin' It they don't even show you the inside. Can't imagine why I would buy one not knowing that.

I can do two butts and maybe a rack of ribs on my PK, a 15 lb brisket, several racks of ribs, as much pork or chicken as I would ever need.

Which PK grill do you own?

IXL
12-05-2017, 01:59 PM
We have a Big Green Egg, in a size "Large." It holds all kinds of stuff and makes food for a small crowd. With that said, our Mini-sized BGE gets a lot of use. Anything cooked on it must fit within a 10 inch diameter circle...not much room. However, it heats up almost instantly, uses very little charcoal, and is a great size for a couple of 8 oz. steaks or a package of hot links, for instance.

It would not be a good choice for us as a first, or only, cooker, but is quite handy as an adjunct. It'll grill a couple of salmon fillets like nobody's business......

If you already have something larger, either of the two you are considering might make great smaller-cook smokers, but if it will be your only cooker, then bumping up a bit is probably in order so as to keep later regret at bay.

Smokie185
12-05-2017, 08:58 PM
Looking at the Humphrey's Saturday Special Edition (https://humphreysbbq.myshopify.com/pages/the-saturday-special-edition) and the Smokin-it Model 2 (http://www.smokin-it.com/Smoker-p/smkmdl2.htm), I got to wondering if these are really practical for most people.

Their prices certainly put them within reach of many people but, unless you are a bachelor or newly married couple without children, I wonder if these make enough food to be worth the effort?

I must admit though, throwing a foil packet with some soaked wood chips on an electric element has appealed to me off and on for a long time. :redface:

The Saturday might be a bit small. I would go for the Weekender. For me and my wife, it is a good size. It can easily hold a full brisket and a couple of butts.

While I do have a Weekender, I did consider this one.

https://www.backwoods-smoker.com/collections/frontpage/products/chubby-3400

pjtexas1
12-05-2017, 09:08 PM
The Saturday might be a bit small. I would go for the Weekender. For me and my wife, it is a good size. It can easily hold a full brisket and a couple of butts.

While I do have a Weekender, I did consider this one.

https://www.backwoods-smoker.com/collections/frontpage/products/chubby-3400If this had been available when I bought my Red Box I would have the Chubby instead.

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Smokie185
12-05-2017, 09:20 PM
If this had been available when I bought my Red Box I would have the Chubby instead.

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It is fairly new. I was surprised to see the free shipping offer they have.

jay1924
12-05-2017, 09:45 PM
I'm using a small (Masterbuilt) smoker and a large (Cookshack SM066). I find the primary difference in cooking is the uniformity in temperature. More space, more insulation, means better control of temperatue inside the cooker. For small rib racks and smaller cuts such as beef ribs and fish, the Masterbuilt works fine (but needs to cycle on more often due to less insulation). The Amerique handles everthing but probably uses more KWH just because of size. Both have their most convenient use situations, but overall I like the Cookshack for its versatility.

fuggsandfoach
12-06-2017, 06:35 AM
Sid,

We have the Saturday. We love it!! We got it because it was easy to travel with. We cook as a family. We like to focus on time together.

It can be very pratical. It fits 1/2 sheet pans so when cooking for KCBS you can fit your chicken one rack and trimmed ribs on another rack or you can do a pork butt and a brisket flat.

If you just want to cook for fun you can do cookies, fatty's or even a fun buffalo chicken mac and cheese.

So far we have cooked cookies, pork butt and buffalo chicken mac and cheese. My kiddos love it and it is simple to use.


We started years ago with the foil packet style cooking. I can tell you the Saturday is a great jump and you are right about the price. We wanted to get a cooker we could use for years to come. Not throw away after a few years due to poor quality. With a Humphreys you know you will get perfect service too. It was a please to walk to them about this cooker. It exceeded my expectations .

if you have any added questions please ask... We love ours. :thumb:


Looking at the Humphrey's Saturday Special Edition (https://humphreysbbq.myshopify.com/pages/the-saturday-special-edition) and the Smokin-it Model 2 (http://www.smokin-it.com/Smoker-p/smkmdl2.htm), I got to wondering if these are really practical for most people.

Their prices certainly put them within reach of many people but, unless you are a bachelor or newly married couple without children, I wonder if these make enough food to be worth the effort?

I must admit though, throwing a foil packet with some soaked wood chips on an electric element has appealed to me off and on for a long time. :redface:

ChrisBarb
12-06-2017, 07:56 AM
Never tried cookies in a smoker. How does that work? Do you make adjustments to "normal" cookie recipes? Can you taste smoke?

NCGrimbo
12-06-2017, 08:23 AM
I think the question is more of how much food do you need to smoke to make a meal for your family? 2 Boston butts is a lot of meat and both of those smokers look like they can do that. Get a rib rack stand (https://www.google.com/search?q=rib+rack+stand&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS773US773&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiR1I6_yvXXAhWJ6SYKHdZ5A5wQsxgIKg&biw=1536&bih=790&dpr=1.25) and you could probably do several baby backs or St. Louis style racks. And if a brisket won't fit, cut the point from the flat and smoke one part on one shelf and the other part on the other shelf. A knife will make any meat fit and a smaller cut will cook faster.

theBBQspecialist
12-06-2017, 08:41 AM
Never tried cookies in a smoker. How does that work? Do you make adjustments to "normal" cookie recipes? Can you taste smoke?

Cookies, Cake, Cheesecake, Pies, and breads All done in a smoker, absolutely!. I compete in a lot of dessert and ancillary categories and this year I uses a Humphrey's Weekender to compete in these categories. Cheese cake and bread pudding both won awards as well as our chili.

Also Smokin' Hoggz BBQ cooked their perfect perfect 180 dessert at the Jack which was a baked good (i'm sworn to secrecy!) In their Humphrey's Battle Box!

Other non "BBQ MEAT" items that we cook in our Humphrey's are Pizza and soups and chilies!

fuggsandfoach
12-06-2017, 09:23 AM
Baking is easy in a cooker. We use our Humphreys to make shells for pies and things like that too.

We don't taste the smoke because we dont't add wood.

back to the area in the Saturday. The Humphreys site does a great job of explaining what you can do with it. Like I said ribs are trimmed I would say 2-3 bones .. I am not sure rib racks I don't normally use them. I would assume they would work.

For a family or small group if people the Saturday is perfect for us. We are a family of 4... and even a few adults would be fine too ... Think about a football tailgate or a small new years eve party.

Great food and easy to use

Sid Post
12-06-2017, 10:27 AM
Thanks everyone! The virtues of the small smoker sure sound nice for someone like me. I sure wish Humphreys was closer to Texas or, heck anywhere in the MidWest!

fuggsandfoach
12-06-2017, 11:43 AM
They do have some retailers that have some Humphrey items in store. They also are really good if you call them you can get it shipped


Thanks everyone! The virtues of the small smoker sure sound nice for someone like me. I sure wish Humphreys was closer to Texas or, heck anywhere in the MidWest!

pjtexas1
12-06-2017, 11:49 AM
Bludawg made a peach cobbler in my Shirley... Probably the best one I ever tasted.

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Sid Post
12-06-2017, 11:58 AM
They do have some retailers that have some Humphrey items in store. They also are really good if you call them you can get it shipped

When I have checked in the past, store inventory wasn't available for what I was interested in seeing and possibly purchasing at the time, at least within a drive distance I was willing to travel. Specifically, I was looking at the Long Weekender and Battlebox as a possible purchase at the time. Today, obviously I'm thinking smaller whether it's a 'weekender', 'red box', 'cubby 3400', or 14" WSM.

Sid Post
12-06-2017, 12:02 PM
Bludawg made a peach cobbler in my Shirley... Probably the best one I ever tasted.

:icon_smile_tongue:

Deserts and BBQ in a smoker. You guys are a bad influence on my bank account balance! :laugh:

fuggsandfoach
12-06-2017, 12:08 PM
Give them a call... You may be shocked.. I had no idea what they could do


When I have checked in the past, store inventory wasn't available for what I was interested in seeing and possibly purchasing at the time, at least within a drive distance I was willing to travel. Specifically, I was looking at the Long Weekender and Battlebox as a possible purchase at the time. Today, obviously I'm thinking smaller whether it's a 'weekender', 'red box', 'cubby 3400', or 14" WSM.

bonz50
12-06-2017, 12:32 PM
Bludawg made a peach cobbler in my Shirley... Probably the best one I ever tasted.

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OH MY!!!! that's just sexy! I have a TON of blueberries, I'd love to try that once I have a smoker large enough to handle it.

bonz50
12-06-2017, 12:32 PM
:icon_smile_tongue:

Deserts and BBQ in a smoker. You guys are a bad influence on my bank account balance! :laugh:

and this

JVM59
12-06-2017, 12:47 PM
I was looking at the BBQ Guru Shotgun smoker before deciding on the LSG Mini.
Didn't like the fact that the fan control HAS to be used as the source of air.

Smokin' Greene
12-06-2017, 03:49 PM
LSG is coming out with a "Pee Wee" version og the insulated cabinet.
http://www.lonestargrillz.com/PeeWee-insulated-smoker.html
Cool! I want one and I own the mini.

birt
12-11-2017, 10:10 AM
my diy beer keg smoker has 2 round 12" grates. so 2 chickens (duck, guinea fowl...), baby back ribs for 4 people (i cut the racks shorter to use all the space i have)...

it has a third grate just above the coals but that just holds a drip pan. when i take the top off it's good to sear the meat after smoking.

i've been thinking of making a larger version but more because it is fun to build, not because i need it :D

Sid Post
12-11-2017, 11:22 AM
my diy beer keg smoker has 2 round 12" grates. so 2 chickens (duck, guinea fowl...), baby back ribs for 4 people (i cut the racks shorter to use all the space i have)...

it has a third grate just above the coals but that just holds a drip pan. when i take the top off it's good to sear the meat after smoking.

i've been thinking of making a larger version but more because it is fun to build, not because i need it :D

That beer keg smoker sounds neat! I would love to see some pictures.

I thought about trying to make a beer keg 'offset' smoker myself a time or two.

birt
12-11-2017, 05:08 PM
That beer keg smoker sounds neat! I would love to see some pictures.

I thought about trying to make a beer keg 'offset' smoker myself a time or two.

there must be some pictures on the forum somewhere but i'm too lazy to look them up. so here they are again :-D
(the chimney was replaced with a wider one)
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10336838_10152812491304078_5079267232712487033_n.j pg?oh=fccc6769ea219d6884089865ad9dd623&oe=5A8D7B74
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1907798_10152812491324078_5905559610965439981_n.jp g?oh=418a02e0ffbb5a9a3f054ea4cc4601ab&oe=5AC2AADE

Sid Post
12-11-2017, 05:43 PM
That's a really neat smoker. I like your smokestack design too!

I was debating taking an old worn out well tank from my fresh water well and making it into a cold smoker. I might need to rethink my cold smoker and make a beer keg hot smoker and a cold smoker (especially for smaller quantities of cheese).

EdLo
12-11-2017, 09:35 PM
Wicked cool smoker.

cookingdude555
12-12-2017, 01:45 AM
I have a smokin-it #3, which seems to be much bigger than a #2. I can cook a ton on it, and it is my go to smoker every winter. When it’s cold and snowy out, I load it up, add smoke wood and hit the button. I use the eggs and wsms more in spring, summer, fall. I don’t know if I can link to another forum, but google smokin-it forum, lots of people there have the #2 (and #1!) and can provide more info.