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AlanK
08-07-2016, 09:28 AM
I am looking for a recommendation on a versatile cooker that smokes and grills. I currently have 2 smokers, but I am looking for something more convenient for backyard cooks. I am considering the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill, but the posts about the poor temperature control are scaring me off. Any other suggestions?

Thank you,
Alan

fxdlryan
08-07-2016, 09:31 AM
Have you considered a kamado type grill/smoker, I have the Primo XL and love it. It's a bit heavy, bit it does small cooks and smokes well.

mattmountz94
08-07-2016, 09:31 AM
Assassin

Kyle Hasty
08-07-2016, 09:36 AM
Hasty Bake Gourmet or Legacy. Smokes and grills, no problem.

aks801
08-07-2016, 09:39 AM
Weber kettle. Best bang for the buck.

Fwismoker
08-07-2016, 09:41 AM
007 :thumb:

KevinJ
08-07-2016, 09:53 AM
I think the issues with controlling temps on the Summit are user error, there are a couple of Brethren who post cooks on the Summit with no issues at all. I'm confident after cooking for years on a Weber Kettle and learning fire management/temp control on it I wouldn't have issues with the Summit. I'm sure there is a learning curve but after a couple of cooks, I'd have it mastered.

mcyork28
08-07-2016, 09:54 AM
The M1 looks pretty nice and I have seen a couple good reviews here.

https://www.bigpoppasmokers.com/mgrill-smoker

GATABITES
08-07-2016, 10:02 AM
I have a XL Big Green Egg and kamado joe Jr and love them both. I want a trailer smoker but I will always have a kamado style cooker. They are extremely versatile: grill, smoke, bake. I have made from cobbler, pie, pizza, smoked and grilled protein. It's worth considering.

BTW, I cook outside year round and have used them in below freezing Temps. It just works. When I shovel snow, I shovel a path to the cookers. Very good at heat and moisture retention.

Norm
08-07-2016, 10:11 AM
The ceramics are a good choice but I've not seen any more issues controlling temps on the WSCG than the ceramics.

Most used grill I have is the 26.75 Weber grill.

If money wasn't an issue I'd have a Shirley.

dadsr4
08-07-2016, 10:17 AM
It's hard to beat a kettle.

16Adams
08-07-2016, 10:40 AM
Tractor wheel/rim

krex1010
08-07-2016, 11:48 AM
I don't own one yet but if I had to have only one cooker for backyard cooks it would likely be the 26" weber kettle

WildeMan
08-07-2016, 11:59 AM
I don't own one yet but if I had to have only one cooker for backyard cooks it would likely be the 26" weber kettle

I agree. May not be the absolute best for either, but for one to do both, and have plenty of capacity, and cost less than an insulated or ceramic cooker, it's by far the best compromise.

Leftwngr
08-07-2016, 12:35 PM
I am biased. Scottsdale cooker. Does it all and does so with logs. Endless add on capabilities and just a really cool rig.

BBQ_MAFIA
08-07-2016, 01:14 PM
Big Green Egg, Kamodo Joe, Primo......yes they cost a lot but if you don't plan on moving them one of these are a fantastic choice and with proper care will last a life time. I have three BGEs and love them all.

BillN
08-07-2016, 01:32 PM
If it were me and $$$ not an issue I would get the AZ BBQ Grills Scottsdale as mentioned above. It's an incredible well built Santa Maria style that has all the bells and whistles that makes it incredibly versatile. BTW I have no affiliation but have seen the operation in person. This cooker is on my someday list, my wife does not know it but I can dream. http://www.azbbqgrills.com/page25/page2/page2.html

DS/B MCS
08-07-2016, 01:34 PM
I'd recommend a Big Green Egg or another ceramic cooker. Great for grilling, smoking, and baking. We have both the Large and Medium Big Green Eggs and they are used multiple times per week year round. Kamato Joe has a nice rig that will save you a couple hundred bucks on the initial purchase.

wbzipf
08-07-2016, 01:37 PM
I have the WSCG, after a few mishaps, all due to operator error, I can dial in a temperature +/- 5 degrees for in excess of 15 hours. This is without the use of any blower/ auto temp controller.

As far as versatility goes, it has almost as much grilling surface area as the 26" Weber kettle, it has more indirect smoking/BBQ surface area than the 26" Weber kettle. It grills hotter than a kettle, smokes as well as the WSM, and has better temperature control than both.

m-fine
08-07-2016, 01:41 PM
Plus one to the Kamado as a great super versatile option. I would include the metal options from Akorn to WSCG as well as the ceramics. They can all be controlled very well, and if not it is user error.

jeffturnerjr
08-07-2016, 02:23 PM
Weber kettle. Best bang for the buck.

^^^^yep

gmag
08-07-2016, 04:20 PM
Buy a kamado cooker (BGE, Kamado Joe, etc.). Fantastic versatility, great customer service and you can use it year round.

bucko
08-07-2016, 04:54 PM
Get Weber kettle buy the 22 inch at Walmart under 100 dollars a I'll last a life time can grill or smoke with the best smokers of course it depends on how many your cooking for don't need high dollar cookers for great food but then again it's your money good luck

OlyQ
08-07-2016, 05:14 PM
Akorn

Charcoal_Addict
08-07-2016, 07:35 PM
The Weber summit is innovative but it's in it's first revision. It might take a couple of model years to bang the bugs out of it.

The Summit is a wanna be Kamado Smoker without the ability to do high quality high heat cooks. In regardless of versatility, nothing on the market beats the range and capabilities of the Kamado cookers.

From cold smoking with the Smoke Daddy Add-on to high temp Ruth Chris style steaks using a soapstone, nothing will touch a Kamado for it ability to perform a wide range of cooks.

Kamado Joe and BGE are the two favorites in this categor. Komodo Kamado is the very best Kamado money can buy but one will set you back 4200 or more for a decent size.

Peter B
08-07-2016, 10:04 PM
I have a Scottsdale cooker from AZ BBQ Outfitters and a custom Offset Smoker made in Texas and a pellet grill and a charcoal grill but the Scottsdale cooker has made all the others obsolete. There is nothing more versatile. I can't recommend it enough.

Thatgrimguy
08-07-2016, 10:08 PM
Another Kamado vote. It's the king of versatility. I use my big green egg to grill, smoke, cold smoke, bake pizzas, bake bread, and wok. It's extremely versatile with the right accessories.

Mpls Funk
08-07-2016, 10:28 PM
I just purchased a Pit Barrel Cooker. I've done two cooks on it and it has produced very good results. It is very simple to use...set it and forget it. You can hang the meat in there, or set it on a grate (like salmon plank for example). I am very happy with my purchase, and it wasn't very expensive.

mjpmap
08-08-2016, 05:39 AM
One more vote for Kamado. I have the Primo XL at home, and an Akorn that stays with my RV. Slow cook, Pizza oven, searing steak, they'll handle it all.

smoke ninja
08-08-2016, 06:03 AM
The Weber summit is innovative but it's in it's first revision. It might take a couple of model years to bang the bugs out of it.

The Summit is a wanna be Kamado Smoker without the ability to do high quality high heat cooks. In regardless of versatility, nothing on the market beats the range and capabilities of the Kamado cookers.

From cold smoking with the Smoke Daddy Add-on to high temp Ruth Chris style steaks using a soapstone, nothing will touch a Kamado for it ability to perform a wide range of cooks.

Kamado Joe and BGE are the two favorites in this categor. Komodo Kamado is the very best Kamado money can buy but one will set you back 4200 or more for a decent size.

So your saying a ceramic real kamodo gets way hotter than a faux (steel) kamodo? Or just the summit.

Interesting, not sure i agree though :smile:

vtron
08-08-2016, 09:18 AM
I'm about 95% sure that I'll be getting the M1 that's been linked earlier in this thread. It's compact enough to fit in the footprint of a 4 or 5 burner gas grill. It can work as a standalone charcoal grill that allows you to raise and lower the charcoal platform. It can also be used as a reverse flow smoker.

Whooey
08-08-2016, 09:31 AM
May I suggest a PK Grill? Made of 1/4" cast aluminum in Little Rock, AR. It grills and smokes. Love mine.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/Whooeydog/120960C6-76A1-4DD8-BE1B-48E9E42D72C7.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Whooeydog/media/120960C6-76A1-4DD8-BE1B-48E9E42D72C7.jpg.html)

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olewarthog
08-08-2016, 09:50 AM
Assassin Charcoal Grill/Smoker (http://assassin-smokers.com/charcoal-grills.php)

This is next on my "must have" list. I have seen these grills in action at several BBQ comps. You can grill/sear at high temps or you can low/slow it for butts, ribs, etc. Very fuel efficient & easy temp control They can even be adapted to run a Guru/Pitmaster IQ/ect. Assassin quality & customer service are second to none.

Ribeye Republic
08-08-2016, 11:11 AM
Hasty Bake Gourmet or Legacy. Smokes and grills, no problem.

In my opinion HBs are about the most versatile around. I can grill a steak at 600 degrees or dial down and cook briskets, butts and ribs.

Our family has been using them since the 50's, so I am a bit biased.

Plumbcrazyone
08-14-2016, 02:16 AM
I I have a WSCG and have no problems with temperature control. High or low I smoked a 14 lb brisket for 10 hours at 225-250 F and never touched the damper after initial set up. I have also reached 750-800 F for flash grilling Sous Vide steaks. Pretty awesome in my opinion. BGE's are very very nice too. Just thought I would give you my thoughts on the WSCG.:-D

WilliamRiker
08-14-2016, 03:44 AM
There are a lot of great versatile gill / smokers in that price range. I love having the BGE and weber kettle combination for charcoal cooks. M1 looks awesome! Good luck with what you choose.

Sammy_Shuford
08-14-2016, 04:47 AM
Yoder YS640. Pellet cooker. From low and slow to crisp crust on pizza, and everything in between.