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Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 05:31 AM
Got the Shirley fired up this morning about 3:30 and rubbed the briskets down.
One with SPOG and one with Black Ops, just going to see how the flavor profiles differ.

Got about 30 of my closest friends trying them to give me some fed back.
They were trimmed and injected last night round 10 and sat in the cooler to give the injection time to spread through the meat. My new injector is awesome!!
It has a solid tip and numerous holes in the sides, so I injected against the grain to allow the injection to go through the meat and not leave streaks.

No pics yet, too late and too early for me to really focus on getting good ones.

I don't trim aggressively, just the hard fat really. I like to leave the fat cap intact and over all the Excel Briskets I get are fairly well trimmed. The 2 I have on now are 13 and 12.5 lbs before trimming. I believe I only trimmed off about 4 lbs of hard fat. So these were really well trimmed at the plant.

I'll get some pics after the sun comes up

IamMadMan
09-10-2015, 05:54 AM
Looking forward to your pictures...

pjtexas1
09-10-2015, 06:10 AM
Nice that you are able to cook on a Thursday morning. Understand about the pics. It's too early for me to.

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 06:14 AM
Nice that you are able to cook on a Thursday morning. Understand about the pics. It's too early for me to.

:shocked: it's Thursday?

:laugh: the dang holiday weekends always get me screwed up


Pics will be coming soon, it's getting pretty light out now.

Got the Shirley tuned into 250 where I like to cook. Had a bit of a challenge with it this weekend. Switched to larger splits and chocked it down to the point there is only TBS and it's doing great. So used to small splits on my Lang, but they do work great to get the big ole Shirley up to temp in about 45 minutes :thumb:

Smoke Dawg
09-10-2015, 06:19 AM
Great test. Have you tested inject VS no inject?

I have never injected brisket but thinking I should give it a go.

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 06:24 AM
Yes I have tested the injected vs not.
I've found there is really no difference in moisture, but have found a flavor difference.
Just a bit more profound flavor in the injected. As well as about an hour +/- added to the cook time

If you decide to inject, let the meat rest after injection for a few hours to let it "equalize" and get distributed through the meat. I like to go 6 or more hours

nsbbqguy
09-10-2015, 06:29 AM
Sounds like you have quite the feast in the making!! Looking forward to pics!

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 07:02 AM
Pegged at 250 :becky:

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirley9_zpskdcc0mti.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirley9_zpskdcc0mti.jpg.html)

Looking pretty close to wrapping

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket_zpsu8whuwj7.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket_zpsu8whuwj7.jpg.html)

SPOG on the left, Black Ops on the right

sliding_billy
09-10-2015, 07:10 AM
I'm hungry!

16Adams
09-10-2015, 07:15 AM
Feel your pain and your glory brother. At a certain age (mine started at 49- now 57) life is basically 6 Saturday's and 1 Sunday.

Watching your briskest with you. Enjoy

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 07:16 AM
I know how you feel, smelling them is almost torture....................ok it is torture

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 07:19 AM
Feel your pain and your glory brother. At a certain age (mine started at 49- now 57) life is basically 6 Saturday's and 1 Sunday.

Watching your briskest with you. Enjoy

All I can say to that is at least it isn't 6 Mondays :becky:

Stay tuned, I'll update when I wrap and then not until taken out and then the glory shot of some slices

Smoke on Badger Mountain
09-10-2015, 08:19 AM
That brisket is looking great. Can't wait to see the finished product

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 09:36 AM
Thanks!!

Well they got wrapped up
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket2_zpsy55ibp3n.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket2_zpsy55ibp3n.jpg.html)

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket3_zpslqgz1x1f.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket3_zpslqgz1x1f.jpg.html)

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket4_zps9fll5hq7.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket4_zps9fll5hq7.jpg.html)

and back to the smoker :thumb:

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket5_zps2vduhphh.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket5_zps2vduhphh.jpg.html)

thanks for checkin in

Bludawg
09-10-2015, 09:47 AM
I'm hungry for Brisket:thumb:

16Adams
09-10-2015, 09:52 AM
Y'all look closely. No not the brisket the pocket. See it?? A pen. Don't ever go anywhere without something to write with. You can always find something to write on- being prepared is something to write WITH

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 10:00 AM
It's a bit of a drive Blu but there's pleanty :thumb:


Yes sir, always got my pen. It's a space pen with write in the rain ink as so I can always take notes

SPRfree
09-10-2015, 11:44 AM
:pop2: Waiting for the slices

slee83
09-10-2015, 11:49 AM
just posted a thread on thoughts for a overnight brine. whats your thoughts, have you tried. I am with you on injecting, taste is all i got out of it but it is worth the time to me.

aawa
09-10-2015, 12:16 PM
Yep, definitely jealous that I'm not there right now.

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 12:23 PM
just posted a thread on thoughts for a overnight brine. whats your thoughts, have you tried. I am with you on injecting, taste is all i got out of it but it is worth the time to me.

No I haven't tried to brine a brisket, not sure what the outcome would be. Possibly too much tenderness would be my first thought.
Injecting is also worth the time for me as well.

Yep, definitely jealous that I'm not there right now.

One day Ren you and I will get together and do some bs'n and cooking
If you thought it was bad before...................

Just added some ribs a little while ago when I probed the brisket :becky:

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket6_zpsgxet8qn7.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket6_zpsgxet8qn7.jpg.html)

I'm thinking a little while longer and the briskey comes off

landarc
09-10-2015, 12:29 PM
You're bald?!?! Somehow I envisioned you as a long hair.

No matter, those briskets were looking great

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 12:31 PM
:laugh: No
i just keep it cut tight, no need to mess around with it that way.
i always look good hahahaha

Thanks Bob :thumb:

Smokedawg86
09-10-2015, 12:47 PM
I personally thought with the name Diesel Dave, you were some 6'5", 300 lb monster. I am no longer intimidated by your posts!

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 12:56 PM
I personally thought with the name Diesel Dave, you were some 6'5", 300 lb monster. I am no longer intimidated by your posts!
:laugh: Nope just 6'1" 180 or so.

Never meant to be intimidating :tsk:

Doog
09-10-2015, 12:57 PM
DD you got a nice cook going on there!!
Thanks for sharing!

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 12:59 PM
Well the briskets probed like butter so they're out of the smoker. 9 hours and 35 minutes and they look really farking good

This is the Black Ops

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket8_zpslptvlj6x.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket8_zpslptvlj6x.jpg.html)

And the SPOG

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket7_zpslk7uuffr.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket7_zpslk7uuffr.jpg.html)

As you can see they're panned now also covered and resting in the Cambro for the next couple hours.

Please stand bye, slicing will begin in T Minus 119 minutes :bored:

cheez59
09-10-2015, 01:00 PM
You're bald?!?! Somehow I envisioned you as a long hair.

No matter, those briskets were looking great

The good Lord only made a few perfect heads. He put hair on the rest.:-P

cowgirl
09-10-2015, 01:02 PM
Good lookin' hunks of beef Dave!

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 01:16 PM
Thank you Jeanie

PatAttack
09-10-2015, 01:18 PM
Lookin' good my Brother!!

Not only that, you've graduated to Quintessential Chatty Farker!:clap2:

Brother Dave is not intimidating...until you piss him off.:wink::laugh:

ebijack
09-10-2015, 01:24 PM
:pop2::pop2::pop2:

Fwismoker
09-10-2015, 01:34 PM
Damn post office! I'm sure they're to blame for losing my invite! :tsk:

dadsr4
09-10-2015, 01:34 PM
The butcher's paper makes them look much better than the foiled ones.

Fwismoker
09-10-2015, 01:59 PM
Love that Black Ops, no comparison to SPOG imo

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 02:06 PM
Lookin' good my Brother!!

Not only that, you've graduated to Quintessential Chatty Farker!:clap2:

Brother Dave is not intimidating...until you piss him off.:wink::laugh:

Thanks Brother!!!!!

Yeah look how long it took me to make that many "quality" posts :pound:
It takes alot now a days to get me to that point

:pop2::pop2::pop2:
It's killing me too Tom

Damn post office! I'm sure they're to blame for losing my invite! :tsk:

That might be the one I found on the floor of my truck :whistle:

The butcher's paper makes them look much better than the foiled ones.

I agree with that, and I'm sure they'll be just as moist

Love that Black Ops, no comparison to SPOG imo

Well I'm going for a general consensus here, wait did you say something Mr. Potroast?

Fwismoker
09-10-2015, 02:20 PM
Well I'm going for a general consensus here, wait did you say something Mr. Potroast?

:confused: on how potroast got attached to me LOL. IIRC I said I love ribeyes is all! BTW I LOVE potroast too! :laugh:

dadsr4
09-10-2015, 02:50 PM
:confused: on how potroast got attached to me LOL. IIRC I said I love ribeyes is all! BTW I LOVE potroast too! :laugh:
Do you foil your briskets?

Fwismoker
09-10-2015, 02:53 PM
Do you foil your briskets? Nope, actually the last one I did wasn't even paper wrapped because it was done on the rotisserie. If grate cooked I use paper.

dadsr4
09-10-2015, 03:12 PM
Nope, actually the last one I did wasn't even paper wrapped because it was done on the rotisserie. If grate cooked I use paper.
I believe the pot roast comment is related to my experience that foiled brisket tastes like it.

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 03:51 PM
Here we go

This is Black Ops

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket10_zpsjxusgga5.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket10_zpsjxusgga5.jpg.html)

And SPOG

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirleybrisket9_zpssghn2f8t.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirleybrisket9_zpssghn2f8t.jpg.html)

Both tender and moist as can be :becky:

Pics of ribs eventually got folks here

dadsr4
09-10-2015, 03:53 PM
Is that your own beef?

PatAttack
09-10-2015, 03:59 PM
Damn, I'm only 13.5 hrs. away...hmmm.

Looks good, Brother. Real good.:clap:

DUBBAGA
09-10-2015, 04:18 PM
Excellent. Bark on the Black OPS is making me http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drooling/drooling-2.gif

ebijack
09-10-2015, 04:26 PM
Looks great Dave! Without tasting, I will have to wait like everyone else to hear the results.:roll:

Happy Hapgood
09-10-2015, 04:41 PM
With your crazy good Pitmaster skills and a Shirley It had to turn out great!

blazinfire
09-10-2015, 04:52 PM
Looks good Diesel Dave :thumb:

Diesel Dave
09-10-2015, 07:43 PM
Thanks everyone

All in all it was really good and moist, so far the consensus is the SPOG is better than the Black Ops for flavor and tenderness. The bark on the Black Ops was way better, but it didn't have the same moisture. Not blaming the rub at all though. Both were really farking good.

And here's a rib shot, these as usual were outstanding

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirley11_zps1j5egijc.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirley11_zps1j5egijc.jpg.html)

And Dads, no this wasn't our own beef, we only go through 1 steer a year and that means only 1 brisket :sad:

Oakswamper
09-10-2015, 08:19 PM
Great looking cook

16Adams
09-10-2015, 08:37 PM
What a beautiful day !!

smoke ninja
09-10-2015, 08:42 PM
I like salt and pepper so much on brisket. What was really good was a base coat of black ops then the coarse s&p on top. That reminds me, im out of black ops time call Oakridge.

Fwismoker
09-10-2015, 08:43 PM
And here's a rib shot, these as usual were outstanding

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy92/pignoutbbq/shirley/shirley11_zps1j5egijc.jpg (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/pignoutbbq/media/shirley/shirley11_zps1j5egijc.jpg.html)




Nice ribbies Dave! As usual? Ya know we're gonna have to do a 250/700 rib off right? :laugh:

Shagdog
09-10-2015, 08:48 PM
Great looking cook, brother! :hungry:

How'd the Shirley stack up against the Lang on ease of use and fuel consumption? I imagine it used more wood, as it's quite a bit bigger?

landarc
09-10-2015, 08:56 PM
Nice cooking DD, that rib is a beauty

brisket looks fantastic as well

SmokeHouse Blues
09-10-2015, 09:03 PM
What's the verdict on the brisket rub per your volunteer tasters? Pics?

SmokeHouse Blues
09-10-2015, 09:13 PM
They both look good! I can't wait to hear the results.

Diesel Dave
09-11-2015, 05:58 AM
Thanks everyone, it was a great day and the cook was awesome. A great time with friends and real good food.
It seems the SPOG won out by a large majority, which I didn't expect.

Shaggy the Shirley takes a bit more to warm up but after that I was adding 2 large splits an hour. Have to keep the air intake just about closed to maintain 250-75. So I'd have to say it used a little more, but surely not that much. I do think much of that is the insulated fire box, but what do I know