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John from Arlington
11-29-2014, 11:14 AM
I'm upgrading from a good offset smoker (a fine machine from the late Smokemaster brand that I got in 2003) to a cabinet model. I have narrowed it down between Stumps (the XL Stumpster, as I decided against the gravity feed XL Baby) or Backwoods (the G2 Fatboy, the Gater, or maybe the Party GL).

I think I'm going to chicken out and go with a more forgiving water pan smoker (so not Stumps), and the Gater offers both a removable water pan (unlike the G2 Fatboy) and more insulation than the Party GL.

(How the heck do you get the water and fat out of a smoker with a fixed pan? It doesn't appear that the G2 Fatboy has a drain, which seems crazy to me.)

Any advice from the Brethren?

Opinions on which I should get?

Sjpatg
11-29-2014, 11:24 AM
If i were to buy a cabinet smoker it would be a Humphrey s hands down

John from Arlington
11-29-2014, 11:58 AM
I've never heard of Humphreys before. Why them over other folks?

FatCoyote
11-29-2014, 12:07 PM
Personally I would check out lone star grillz. Great product and easily as nice as the gator.

Sjpatg
11-29-2014, 12:18 PM
I've never heard of Humphreys before. Why them over other folks?

Number one the construction , I am a welder fabricator and can see the detail they put into what they do . Number two they have an extensive product line.

T-Man
11-29-2014, 12:38 PM
Take a look at Spicewine , built to last great results and good looking !

Ron_L
11-29-2014, 12:40 PM
You are comparing two different types of smokers. The Stumps is a gravity feed with a charcoal chute and a small firebox on one side while the Backwoods is a reverse flow vertical with the fire box below the cook chamber.

Decide which style you prefer (it sounds like the reverse flow vertical with a water pan) and then compare smokers of that type.

In the gravity feed area you have Stumps, Assassin/Rebel/Superior (all built by the same shop), Deep South, SouthernQ and the new Humphrey's gravity feed which are also reverse flow design, and more.

In the reverse flow vertical area you have Backwoods, Spicewine, Humphreys, Lone Star and a few others.

John from Arlington
11-29-2014, 12:42 PM
Thanks for the pointer to Lone Star. I'll look at them too. In addition to the insulated cabinets, they seem to be one of the few folks to offer an offset cabinet, which would let me run as a stick burner -- appealing to me.

John from Arlington
11-29-2014, 12:46 PM
And thanks, Ron. I realized that Stumps is known for its gravity feed, side firebox smokers, but isn't the XL Stumpster a reverse-flow vertical like the the Backwoods (and Spicewine and, I gather, Humphreys and Lone Star et al.)?

Ron_L
11-29-2014, 12:55 PM
And thanks, Ron. I realized that Stumps is known for its gravity feed, side firebox smokers, but isn't the XL Stumpster a reverse-flow vertical like the the Backwoods (and Spicewine and, I gather, Humphreys and Lone Star et al.)?

Yeah... I missed the Stumpster part :-D

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ssv3
11-29-2014, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the pointer to Lone Star. I'll look at them too. In addition to the insulated cabinets, they seem to be one of the few folks to offer an offset cabinet, which would let me run as a stick burner -- appealing to me.

Quite a few of us here have the offset vertical/cabinet from Lone Star and love it IF you still want to burn sticks. It's a great unit, built like a tank with a ton of space especially if you add the oven option on top of the firebox.

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IamMadMan
11-29-2014, 01:44 PM
I've never heard of Humphreys before. Why them over other folks?

If i were to buy a cabinet smoker it would be a Humphrey s hands down

I was looking at Backwoods when I purchased my Humphrey's. In my opinion I think Humphrey's is a better built unit and about $1000.00 cheaper than the Backwoods.

In the end it is not a matter of what we have, but what will work and fit your needs. What works for someone else may not work for your individual needs.

Do your homework and compare, compare, and compare again.

smokinit
11-29-2014, 01:57 PM
If you want to chat about Humphrey's shoot me a PM

SmittyJonz
11-29-2014, 03:13 PM
Humphreys Pint. :biggrin1:

slightly sauced bbq
11-29-2014, 03:28 PM
I compared backwoods & Humphreys in Oct. Humphreys by far is the better buy. Alot more weight to the Humphreys, which means thicker material. Thicker walls, more insulation. Only negative I have is the heat-up time. Its alot of steel to heat up in a MN. winter, once its there it holds it super. I get around 8 hrs off 10#. That's cooking below 20 degrees

swamprb
11-29-2014, 04:38 PM
I have a Backwoods Gater, and while I am happy with it, I would suggest you consider extra grate rails for better versatility. Seems like my sweet spot is right at the thermo probe level, kind of a deal if you are cooking in pans, other than that no biggie. The removable waterpan could use some handles to make easier to deal with when hot, other than slightly sauced bbq's remark about them getting to temp is also my minor gripe, but when it does its a solid sender, and when I use it in a comp, I get by on 2/3 of a 15lb bag of KBB all weekend! Thats a miser!

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John from Arlington
11-29-2014, 04:51 PM
Thanks to all for the helpful info. Am I correct in assuming that if I were to get the offset firebox that would let me burn wood, I'd be giving up the long burn times that I'd get with the insulated cabinets? Gotta say, it's the hope of being able to walk away from the smoker for more than a couple of hours that's one of my number two reason for upgrading. (Number one is the need for more meat space.)

ssv3
11-29-2014, 05:13 PM
Thanks to all for the helpful info. Am I correct in assuming that if I were to get the offset firebox that would let me burn wood, I'd be giving up the long burn times that I'd get with the insulated cabinets? Gotta say, it's the hope of being able to walk away from the smoker for more than a couple of hours that's one of my number two reason for upgrading. (Number one is the need for more meat space.)

Most definitely. You'd be better off with an insulated then.

Smoking Tunes
11-29-2014, 05:21 PM
I spent a great deal of time researching and comparing all the cabinet cookers. I placed my order a couple of weeks ago with Lone Star Grillz.

BBQ_MAFIA
11-29-2014, 05:34 PM
Do yourself a favor and call Jay at Spicewine Ironworks and learn about his cookers. He has been on this forum for a very long time and makes amazing cookers. Do your homework to ensure you get what you want. All the cookers mentioned are good so the choices can drive you a little crazy. It's a great problem to have. Good luck.

pjtexas1
11-29-2014, 06:09 PM
Whatever you get don't get rid of that Texas Smokemaster. You will miss it. I kept mine and a few times a year I am really glad I did.

John from Arlington
11-29-2014, 06:23 PM
Actually was going to get rid of the Smokemaster after getting the new machine. Just not enough space. What does yours do that your others don't PJ?

pjtexas1
11-29-2014, 09:13 PM
Actually was going to get rid of the Smokemaster after getting the new machine. Just not enough space. What does yours do that your others don't PJ?

Nothing...just nice to have the option to tend a fire. I still like that every now and then.

BDAABAT
11-30-2014, 03:34 AM
Have heard good things about 270 Smokers:
http://www.270smokers.com/index.php/blog/

I believe they're based in Virginia....you may be able to see the product in person without too much trouble. Not gravity fed, but nice looking insulated cabinet smoker.

Bruce