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Nelskin
07-22-2014, 05:52 PM
Just got a free barrel that held pear juice and it has a liner. Do I need to burn/sand that out or can I just season over it?

Thanks,

Jes

Doog
07-22-2014, 06:14 PM
I would burn it out or sandblast it.

Stingerhook
07-22-2014, 06:20 PM
^^^^^^
Ditto

Grimm5577
07-22-2014, 06:24 PM
I would remove it.

AussieMatt
07-23-2014, 08:08 AM
Burn baby burn!

Displaced Texan
07-23-2014, 11:42 AM
Remove it. It will not hold a seasoning and has the chance to burn and off-gas while cooking.

Chronos
07-23-2014, 12:22 PM
So, if using a weed burner is the best method (except sandblasting - which isn't easy) what is the BTU output needed?

I can get a weedburner for $50 - $60 but I have no idea where to get sandblasting done.

DMP
07-23-2014, 12:24 PM
Burned one last weekend. After burning I scrubbed it down with ajax. Liner came right out.

Displaced Texan
07-23-2014, 12:39 PM
So, if using a weed burner is the best method (except sandblasting - which isn't easy) what is the BTU output needed?

I can get a weedburner for $50 - $60 but I have no idea where to get sandblasting done.

I've never used a weed burner for this... just load it up with scrap wood (fill it full) and light'er up.

Randy3269
07-23-2014, 12:55 PM
I've never used a weed burner for this... just load it up with scrap wood (fill it full) and light'er up.

Be sure and drill your vent holes first. :thumb:

olewarthog
07-23-2014, 01:31 PM
So, if using a weed burner is the best method (except sandblasting - which isn't easy) what is the BTU output needed?

I can get a weedburner for $50 - $60 but I have no idea where to get sandblasting done.

Check with metal shops or cemetery monument companies. I have gotten prices of $20-$25 to sandblast just the interior of a drum.

mchar69
07-23-2014, 04:42 PM
I've never used a weed burner for this... just load it up with scrap wood (fill it full) and light'er up.

I'm thinking these guys are taking the weed burner directly to the interior of the drum, not making a fire. Maybe I'm wrong.

THoey1963
07-23-2014, 04:48 PM
I know nothing of drums and burning liners, but here's a weed burner for $30:

http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-with-push-button-igniter-91037.html

DMP
07-23-2014, 05:14 PM
I used wood to burn out mine.

Goyo626
07-23-2014, 08:28 PM
I am currently building an Ugly Drum Smoker and I made the mistake of getting one with a red liner. I should have known better since I researched this forum and found numerous warnings against drums with liners in it:doh:. In my defence, I thought the liner was a rubber coating or something similar (i thought mine was paint, yes iam this dense.) Harbor freight sells a $20 weed burner what worked well to burn out/loosen most of the liner. I recommend burning liner out that stuff smells awful when heat it applied (and the smoke it produces ain't no thin blue). The reputation of the red liner is well deserved i still have to grind out the liner (im about 1/3 of the way through). Not looking forward to climbing inside and grinding out the rest:shock:

anchor-bbq
07-27-2014, 12:57 AM
I am currently building an Ugly Drum Smoker and I made the mistake of getting one with a red liner. I should have known better since I researched this forum and found numerous warnings against drums with liners in it:doh:. In my defence, I thought the liner was a rubber coating or something similar (i thought mine was paint, yes iam this dense.) Harbor freight sells a $20 weed burner what worked well to burn out/loosen most of the liner. I recommend burning liner out that stuff smells awful when heat it applied (and the smoke it produces ain't no thin blue). The reputation of the red liner is well deserved i still have to grind out the liner (im about 1/3 of the way through). Not looking forward to climbing inside and grinding out the rest:shock:

I feel ya! Mine did not have the liner and it was still a pain to grind out the insides. You'll be happy when it's done though.

Collector-X
07-27-2014, 01:44 AM
hmmm...I'm too lazy. Would have bought another drum without the liner.

SmokinBerto
07-27-2014, 02:05 AM
I picked up my most recent drum from a place that does oil changes. It had synthetic blend oil in it, No Liner. I'm actually looking forward to working this one. I picked up one of the weed burners fro Harbor Freight. In my opinion every man should own one:cool:. The thing is awesome. I used it to cure the Hi-Temp paint on my UDS. No more looking for discarded pallets to do a burn, WooHoo:thumb:

scrub puller
07-27-2014, 03:50 AM
Yair . . . Why not use lube oil drums? They are nice and clean and there is no stuffing around with grinding/sanding . . . maybe on the outside if you are fussy. I don't bother, I just paint them over with stove black

I can never see the point in food grade and having to deal with coatings and liners. They sure won't be "food grade" when you finish melting and burning and sanding out the liner or coating.

Some of them sure do have nice lids though but if you cut oil drums in the right place you can use the tops or bottoms for lids.

Cheers.

Roast Beast
07-27-2014, 11:33 AM
Agree with the above. The liners are only "food grade" when used as intended, the same way that plastic Tupperware is food grade when used as intended. Put either one in a 300-degree environment, and you have a decidedly non-food-grade situation. I see folks on Craigslist around here selling UDSs and barrel grills made of 55-gallon drums and touting the "food grade" barrels they used, but with the liners still 100% intact. :doh:

TerryMac
07-27-2014, 10:11 PM
I would avoid food grade if possible, but with the $20 HF weed burner. I got coating out in two less than half-hour sessions. It comes off in sheets when it gets to the necessary temp. Worst part is the bottom perimeter, the heat tends to come right back at ya. I'll try to avoid it next time, but it was $20 for an otherwise very nice drum.

Wahoo95
07-28-2014, 11:26 AM
I simply paid a local blasting shop $20 to blast mine clean.

Newazsmoker
07-24-2020, 08:34 PM
Good afternoon oh brethren of the functional smokers.

I’m burning out my drum with the food grade liner, all of the light brown/red brown melted off by running the torch along the outside of the barrel. Unfortunately it looks like there is an additional black liner underneath. Has anyone encountered this? I’m second guessing whether to burn it again putting the torch inside, any danger there? tia

woodbutcher1
07-24-2020, 09:58 PM
The torch will suffocate. It will use the oxygen to quick and go out. Drill the intake holes on the bottom of the barrel. Fill the barrel with wood and light her up.

Newazsmoker
07-25-2020, 12:11 AM
The torch will suffocate. It will use the oxygen to quick and go out. Drill the intake holes on the bottom of the barrel. Fill the barrel with wood and light her up.

Thanks for the tip, I’ll source some wood and try to make it easier on myself.

DDT
07-25-2020, 10:12 AM
I would drill the vent holes first for good air flow and then burn it.

Nuco59
07-25-2020, 10:25 AM
Even with a good burnout, you might still have to do some wire wheeling- but the more you burn, the easier the wheeling.

If you are going to use the flat lid, resist the temptation to just toss it in there while the burnout is going on. It will "taco" on you.

dummy que
07-26-2020, 07:27 PM
I am currently building an Ugly Drum Smoker and I made the mistake of getting one with a red liner. I should have known better since I researched this forum and found numerous warnings against drums with liners in it:doh:. In my defence, I thought the liner was a rubber coating or something similar (i thought mine was paint, yes iam this dense.) Harbor freight sells a $20 weed burner what worked well to burn out/loosen most of the liner. I recommend burning liner out that stuff smells awful when heat it applied (and the smoke it produces ain't no thin blue). The reputation of the red liner is well deserved i still have to grind out the liner (im about 1/3 of the way through). Not looking forward to climbing inside and grinding out the rest:shock:
I`ve made four drums in the past few months it takes four flapper disk to grind out the liner after burning out the liner it dosen`t mater if you buy good wheels or cheap wheels it takes four i find it hard to belive that someone would leave the liner in a drum they are made out of epoxe paint that would taste bad bad bad and probaly poison you

Learning to BBQ
07-26-2020, 07:38 PM
burn that bugger out, hot and fast, skids, any kind or hardwood you could stuff in there, get it glowing red.