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GoolsbyMD
01-06-2014, 04:59 PM
Budget is not in there for the 48 Deluxe. I have been green lighted for 2k on a smoker. I'm leaning towards the 48 patio, reason being i won't be away from the house with it so I can use the oven as a warmer or even the Stumps Baby. Currently it's just my wife and I planning on kids... Soon... :shock: family does come over and love my bbq i always end up doing big cooks for July 4th and thanksgiving etc. I picked the 48 cause I have always read you will wish you got the biggest smoker possible. However i could always end up running both smokers as "you could take a monkey bash his brains out and he could run one of those" and get the 36 that would save some money to get the wife something or something else. So I'm all ears brethern.

DaveAlvarado
01-06-2014, 05:05 PM
If you want a stickburner, sounds like you're barking up the right tree.

I've been doing a bunch of research on Langs, and a lot of what I've read says the warming cabinet on the deluxe is more like a cold smoker than a holding bin--it runs too hot and will continue to cook your meat. Better to use a faux cambro anyway.

Like you said, if you need to do really big cooks, fire up more than one smoker.

The Smoking Pig
01-06-2014, 05:08 PM
Maybe talk to TuscaloosaQ and see what he can get you for your budget I don't have one but I hear his stuff is top notch.

Nutz4bbq
01-06-2014, 05:16 PM
Get the largest you can...I wanted a 48 deluxe ended up with a 60 deluxe... now I want a 84 deluxe:grin: Bigger is better!! :wink:

Go Noles!!

Firefighter
01-06-2014, 05:23 PM
Pick the one you want and buy the next size up. In the end you will be happier.

bbq.tom
01-06-2014, 05:25 PM
All depends on what you plan on doing with it. I got the 36 hybrid to use on my deck and it is perfect for home use.
I plan on getting a 48 for use in competitions.

sliding_billy
01-06-2014, 05:34 PM
If you are not going to use the warmer, I'd go with the larger pit. I have a warmer and wouldn't want to be without it (I also use it as a cooking chamber and low temp smoker). At the same time, if you know that you will need the warmer more often than the extra real estate of the 48's main chamber, then that works too.

J'ville Grill
01-06-2014, 05:34 PM
Sounds like the best choice for you would be the 48. For home use I'd rather not have the warming box as I like to preheat my splits on top of the fire box.

Chopper Duke
01-06-2014, 05:52 PM
Sounds like the best choice for you would be the 48. For home use I'd rather not have the warming box as I like to preheat my splits on top of the fire box.

I'll echo this. Get as much space as you can because you'll want more eventually. You plan to go get it or have it shipped?

GoolsbyMD
01-06-2014, 05:57 PM
I'll echo this. Get as much space as you can because you'll want more eventually. You plan to go get it or have it shipped?

Road trip, I'm about 8 hours away and the wife's parents live another hour south in Jacksonville.

GoolsbyMD
01-06-2014, 05:59 PM
Maybe talk to TuscaloosaQ and see what he can get you for your budget I don't have one but I hear his stuff is top notch.

I really did think about them and look up smoker made by them but shipping cost I'm sure is expensive as AL is a bit to far for a weekend.

BBQ Bandit
01-06-2014, 06:15 PM
Budget is not in there for the 48 Deluxe. I have been green lighted for 2k on a smoker. I'm leaning towards the 48 patio, reason being i won't be away from the house with it so I can use the oven as a warmer or even the Stumps Baby. Currently it's just my wife and I planning on kids... Soon... :shock: family does come over and love my bbq i always end up doing big cooks for July 4th and thanksgiving etc. I picked the 48 cause I have always read you will wish you got the biggest smoker possible. However i could always end up running both smokers as "you could take a monkey bash his brains out and he could run one of those" and get the 36 that would save some money to get the wife something or something else. So I'm all ears brethern.

Get the largest you can...I wanted a 48 deluxe ended up with a 60 deluxe... now I want a 84 deluxe:grin: Bigger is better!! :wink:

Go Noles!!

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=436&pictureid=2362
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff72/bbq-brethren/Troop%20cook%20%20-%20Fort%20Bragg/P1010018-1.jpg

The capacity of a Lang 48 patio is 10 butts comfortably. if you can find a used one around 1,000 - 1400 used (in good condition and well maintained) go get it. One caution... you may end up enjoying filling her up... tends to shrink from constant use. Been there, done that, bought it.... three times! Just look at my signature.

Chopper Duke
01-06-2014, 07:16 PM
Road trip, I'm about 8 hours away and the wife's parents live another hour south in Jacksonville.

That's not too bad. I was planning on a 36" Patio until I found something on CL. Both of my parents were raised in J-Ville but migrated north to Savannah were my brothers and I are from. I think you'll be more than happy with your 48".

ironmanerik
01-06-2014, 07:25 PM
BBQ bandit photo is the old style top shelf, you can fit at least a couple more

Smokin' D
01-06-2014, 07:32 PM
I have a 48 and use it just for the backyard. I think it is the perfect size. Something to think about, while the tank size is 48" long, the lower grate is just 36" long. Grate space is lost at each end and on the 36 I'm thinking real estate would be sadly lacking.

Now mine is one with the rounded ends and the newer ones may be set up a bit different, but I'm sure there will still be some "grate loss" at each end.

awscwi
01-06-2014, 08:05 PM
Im having my TQ pit shipped 478 miles, the cost is not more than fuel and one night hotel.

PM me if you need the shippers info.

I would give Paul ( TQ ) a call, I think you will be please with his service.


I really did think about them and look up smoker made by them but shipping cost I'm sure is expensive as AL is a bit to far for a weekend.

FatCoyote
01-06-2014, 08:13 PM
48's are nice; bigger to a point is better. If you are having it shipped you may want to take a look at Lone Star Grillz http://www.lonestargrillz.com/ as they offer an awful lot for the money. I am very happy with my new one.

BBQ_MAFIA
01-06-2014, 09:07 PM
I haven’t cooked on a 36 or a 48 but I would recommend a 48 because of the larger space.
Although not one of your options, I believe the Lang 60 is the best size as it is fine for those times when you want to cook a few rack of ribs and big enough for those times when you want to cook a 100 Pound Pig. I’ve often said that I’m not a supporter of the Bigger is Better Theory. It’s important to know up front what the intended purpose of your pit will be and then buy accordingly.

Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.

ajstrider
01-06-2014, 09:10 PM
If I was planning on a pit just for home, I would not spend the money on a warmer.

I normally believe in bigger is better, to an extent. The 36 is a great size, especially if you only cook for a group on the rare occasion, but I think the 48 is a much better all around size.

Z Dawg
01-06-2014, 09:23 PM
I've seen where they are offering a stretch version of the 36".. I think there's a video on Youtube.

It's basically the same size tube as the hybrid 36" but without the chargrill built in. Single door.

It's not listed on their website.. but I sent Ben an email today requesting a quote. I'll post the price if I hear back.

BBQ Bandit
01-06-2014, 09:28 PM
Saw something about the stretch, too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kkvC2n6rk

GoolsbyMD
01-06-2014, 09:48 PM
Saw something about the stretch, too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kkvC2n6rk

I just went and saw the same video. Thats the cats pajamas right there. I'll send Ben an email as well and inquire about that model

Z Dawg
01-06-2014, 09:48 PM
Saw something about the stretch, too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kkvC2n6rk


Thanks Bandit! Here's another one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B51V1AXlvSE

GoolsbyMD
01-06-2014, 09:53 PM
I don't know what looks better that on a patio cart or the weather in that video. I sent them an email asking about price for it on a patio cart as I'm looking to place my order this week or next.

GoolsbyMD
01-06-2014, 09:56 PM
Here's a quote from another forum:

I been reading your forum for a couple of months now, good stuff! On Nov. 18 I ordered a 36" Deluxe Hybrid Patio, was completed yesterday. I'm out of town right now and was going to pick it up in a few days. About 30 min. ago I talked with Sarah and cancelled that smoker and ordered the 36" Stretch Deluxe Patio. The price is $1895.00. She was again extremely pleasant and had no problem with my order change. Keep Smokin'!

18" isn't very deep though.

BBQ Bandit
01-06-2014, 10:14 PM
The stretch 36 looks like the same overall specs of a hybrid except one door and single chamber.

J'ville Grill
01-06-2014, 10:45 PM
Here's a quote from another forum:

I been reading your forum for a couple of months now, good stuff! On Nov. 18 I ordered a 36" Deluxe Hybrid Patio, was completed yesterday. I'm out of town right now and was going to pick it up in a few days. About 30 min. ago I talked with Sarah and cancelled that smoker and ordered the 36" Stretch Deluxe Patio. The price is $1895.00. She was again extremely pleasant and had no problem with my order change. Keep Smokin'!

18" isn't very deep though.

The 36 has a diameter of 21 1/2 inches. The bottom racks are 18" deep.
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agoggin
01-07-2014, 11:39 AM
I was looking at the Lang but ended up buying a Mack Daddy Smoker (MD 120). I love the fact it has 3 removable racks. Have only had for a few weeks but love it so far. You can't beat the price and its a quality product.

pigsmoke
01-07-2014, 01:22 PM
If you were asking for just a size, I'd agree with the folks who say bigger isn't always better. When you're already between 2 sizes, go with the bigger size, you won't regret it; if you go with the smaller size, you might regret it. I know when I bought my BGE I was between sizes and bought the smaller...within a couple of weeks I began to regret it. I still regret it.

GoolsbyMD
01-07-2014, 01:52 PM
Oh the phone with Sara at Lang and this is what I got from her before being passed off to a fabricator for more tech questions.
36 stretch patio orginal is 1595.00
Same firebox size as the 36 orginal
Length is close to the 60" about 54" length
16" cooking grate width (have heard they were 18.5")
It makes an excellent ribs/butt cooker due to the length and width
Both 48 and 36 are 3 week wait time.
Only thing that alarmed me was he said the 36 stretch is under priced right now because they are so new and they are not proven like the 48 is in regards to manufacturing, he did say the firebox will keep up with the expanded size of the stretch.

Ackman
01-07-2014, 03:37 PM
Pick the one you want and buy the next size up. In the end you will be happier.


+1 bought the 36, wish I had bought the 48

Terry The Toad
01-07-2014, 08:57 PM
If you enjoy smoking - listen to the folks who tell you to get the biggest you can afford. I had a some serious heartburn plunking down the money for my Lang - but I can tell you it was some of the the best money I've ever spent. I truly enjoy smoking - and it has brought me a lot of pleasure (tending the fire, eating the BBQ, and listening to the compliments!) Good luck with your decision - and enjoy whichever one you choose. :-D

bbqwilly
01-07-2014, 09:30 PM
Do yourself a favor and PM TuscaloosaQ. You will get more smoker for less money and you will be very happy with the product. Paul has done work for many people on this board. You can check out his website shirleyfabrication.com and you will see real quick how good he is.

Kernscookin
01-08-2014, 04:26 PM
When I bought mine the 48 Deluxe was about the same cost as the 60 NOT Deluxe. I asked Lang's opinion and he said he would go with the 60. That's what I did. I would go with the 48. I don't think the 36 is big enough.

Chrome Dome
01-08-2014, 09:31 PM
I voted for the 36" Deluxe. But that's only because I already have an 84" Deluxe with chargrill. I love the product that the 84" puts out. The warmer box can run hot depending on how you run your vents. If you want it as a warmer, what's worked best for me is to close the vent from the main chamber and open the top vents in the box to let the radiant heat bleed out. I use the warmer box for the sides I do for my event. It's a great place for half steam pans of baked beans or mac and cheese. I've also used it to smoke brisket while doing turkeys in the main chamber. Definitely go a size bigger than you think you'll need.

Rippp
01-08-2014, 10:21 PM
I went through the same debate for weeks. Finally decided on the 48 for the added flexibility. I like having that extra space when friends come over or I'm cooking several different meats at the same time. Plus my friends said, "if you're debating this long over it...get the larger one." Which, I have to say that I'm happy that I did. If you have it in your budget, go for it. It'll cost you more money to upgrade to a 48" if you decide the 36" isn't large enough. Good Luck, you'll be happy with any of them.

dummy que
01-08-2014, 11:54 PM
i halve a lang 60 original i picked it up at lang`s in NAHUTA GA. my wifey wanted a 48 with warmer but i got the 60 after being able to see the different models side by side i was glad i got the 60 the warmers are not very big on the 36,48 imho you are better off to spend your hard earned bucks on the larger cook chamber over the warmer :hungry:

Florida Farmer
01-09-2014, 10:22 AM
Just get one of every model then you won't go wrong. :) You'd probaby like the 48 better, due to the difference in capacity. I own and have competed on both.

pjayt
01-09-2014, 02:12 PM
They make a 36 stretch its longer longer than a 48 its the same body as 36 hybrid
they leave off the divider for the char grill I wish I would have known before I bought the hybrid deluxe
the vertical warmer box worth every dime it cost

jlane
01-09-2014, 05:19 PM
I have a 48 and use it just for the backyard. I think it is the perfect size. Something to think about, while the tank size is 48" long, the lower grate is just 36" long. Grate space is lost at each end and on the 36 I'm thinking real estate would be sadly lacking.

Now mine is one with the rounded ends and the newer ones may be set up a bit different, but I'm sure there will still be some "grate loss" at each end.

Why is there so much "grate loss" on both ends? That seems very wasteful to me.

GoolsbyMD
01-09-2014, 05:39 PM
Just an update I ended up going with a brethern company called Shirley Fabrication my cooking grates will be 22.5 wide and 44" long. Top and bottom slide out.

pjayt
01-09-2014, 06:17 PM
Why is there so much "grate loss" on both ends? That seems very wasteful to me.

the smoke and heat come into the chamber under the drip pan below the grate on reverse flow it has to come out the opposite end from the chimney reverses
backward over the top of the food so you loose about 6" on the 36 it appears to be more on some of the larger units from what I've read.

Nutz4bbq
01-10-2014, 02:24 PM
Just an update I ended up going with a brethern company called Shirley Fabrication my cooking grates will be 22.5 wide and 44" long. Top and bottom slide out.


Good luck...

Nutz4bbq
01-10-2014, 02:25 PM
Just an update I ended up going with a brethern company called Shirley Fabrication my cooking grates will be 22.5 wide and 44" long. Top and bottom slide out.



Good luck... you'll wish you got a Lang!!

Kernscookin
01-10-2014, 03:10 PM
I agree, you WILL wish you got a Lang.

bbqwilly
01-10-2014, 09:44 PM
LOL. No he wont.

Chopper Duke
01-11-2014, 01:30 AM
Congrats on the SF! I was looking at Lang and ended up with a Gator. I'm glad I DIDN'T get a Lang!!! :-D

GoolsbyMD
01-11-2014, 01:35 AM
Good luck... you'll wish you got a Lang!!

Time will tell but getting a larger smoker with two pull out 22x44 shelves, 3 therms (my request), a 3/8 thick FB, removable shelf l, cooking chamber gaskets, and a charcoal basket for less than a lang 48 it will be hard. When I called lang they wouldnt do custom work and sent me to a random sales lady who couldn't answer my questions. But what are the reasons you think I'll wish I got a Lang for? The patented griddle baffle plate? After talking to Paul he is an honest man and I believe 100% he will deliver nothing less than my expectations.

awscwi
01-11-2014, 04:10 AM
I concur.

After talking to Paul he is an honest man and I believe 100% he will deliver nothing less than my expectations.

bbqwilly
01-11-2014, 08:39 AM
Congrats on the SF! I was looking at Lang and ended up with a Gator. I'm glad I DIDN'T get a Lang!!! :-D

I looked hard at a Lang for several months. After seeing Pauls work I called him up and after talking to him for 15 minutes I ordered a cooker from him. People who say he will be sorry has either not seen Pauls work, or dont know what they are looking at.
Im glad I didnt buy a smoker because of the name on the side of it. ALL of Pauls customers will tell you the same thing.

TuscaloosaQ
01-11-2014, 09:10 AM
I looked hard at a Lang for several months. After seeing Pauls work I called him up and after talking to him for 15 minutes I ordered a cooker from him. People who say he will be sorry has either not seen Pauls work, or dont know what they are looking at.
Im glad I didnt buy a smoker because of the name on the side of it. ALL of Pauls customers will tell you the same thing.




Thanks Will, I will take up for me and Tyler in this since the gentleman that spoke does not know anything about me and Tyler. I will put our pits up against any of what I consider as far as craftsmanship the best.. Klose, Gator, Jambo, Pittts by JJ and I know there are many more. Those are all excellent Quality pitts as far as craftsmanship..... when you are a master craftsman it takes only one look for me to know craftsmanship As far as a griddle it is nothing more than a baffle plate made of 1/4" steel with a name attached to it... Lang is a great cooker but... so are ours and I believe in the future the proof will be in the pudding

Diesel Dave
01-11-2014, 09:28 AM
I have a Lang 60 Deluxe and love it. Got it from a Brethren at a real good price.
At the time I was new here and didn't really know about Paul and his cookers.
There is NO question in my mind my next cooker will be made by Paul and Ty, their craftsmanship is above and beyond any commercially produced cooker. And you can have it built any way you want it!!!!

It's really not right of any of you to say "you'll wish you'd gotten this" before you've seen and read the awesome reviews these two have gotten

bbqwilly
01-11-2014, 09:58 AM
I have a Lang 60 Deluxe and love it. Got it from a Brethren at a real good price.
At the time I was new here and didn't really know about Paul and his cookers.
There is NO question in my mind my next cooker will be made by Paul and Ty, their craftsmanship is above and beyond any commercially produced cooker. And you can have it built any way you want it!!!!

It's really not right of any of you to say "you'll wish you'd gotten this" before you've seen and read the awesome reviews these two have gotten

Thats exactly right.

Drake
01-11-2014, 02:17 PM
While never have cooked on a Lang, I have seen several of them. While the quality isn't poor, the Shirley Fab smokers are much better as far as design and quality. This is coming from someone who has seen both up close. I don't want to put down lang or their owners, I'm sure they are fine cookers. But my money went to Shirley Fabrication.

TheBill
01-11-2014, 03:25 PM
Time will tell but getting a larger smoker with two pull out 22x44 shelves, 3 therms (my request), a 3/8 thick FB, removable shelf l, cooking chamber gaskets, and a charcoal basket for less than a lang 48 it will be hard. When I called lang they wouldnt do custom work and sent me to a random sales lady who couldn't answer my questions. But what are the reasons you think I'll wish I got a Lang for? The patented griddle baffle plate? After talking to Paul he is an honest man and I believe 100% he will deliver nothing less than my expectations.

Notice how nobody states WHY you should have got a lang? I got the same thing on this bord when I was trying to decide between lang and yoder. Nobody really told me why lang was so much better.

I would have done what you did, got a bigger smoker for the same price...with high praise on craftsmanship on said smoker.

CHUNKEYLOVER
02-05-2014, 12:46 PM
Im thinking about ordering the 36" patio deluxe, do the grates slide out on this model?
Also does anybody know of a good place to get wood in so cal?

bluzieq
02-06-2014, 10:37 PM
+1 bought the 36, wish I had bought the 48
Same here.

Garyt
02-07-2014, 10:48 PM
I have had a Lang 48D for about 4 years and couldn't be happier, the size is perfect for me and I would buy it again in a heart beat. I also added the direct heat option so I can open the 2 vents on top of the firebox and really heat up the warmer.

Waterboy12
02-08-2014, 09:20 AM
Opinions are like butt holes, everybody has one and they all stink, it's different strokes for different folks. It's the same reason everybody recommends a UDS, when the OP is asking about a stick burner. The guys that own Langs own them for a reason(my self included). However after seeing Tyler and Paul's work, I would have def gave them a call had I know. About them before hand. Don't cut somebody down because they didn't buy what you did, or didn't go out and buy something the second you suggested it, it just simply means they have there own butt hole.

grillinguy247
02-08-2014, 10:03 AM
Im thinking about ordering the 36" patio deluxe, do the grates slide out on this model?
Also does anybody know of a good place to get wood in so cal?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=IEf2Uv_tHs7ioAT6gYHYDA&url=http://www.southerncalfirewood.com/&cd=1&ved=0CCcQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNH_3khHv-cxI9jjwwyt0xeeobzzeA&sig2=ho6ExIiVrGTvoYqT9E7dQQ

pjayt
02-08-2014, 10:46 AM
You can get 36 hybrid deluxe for 75.00 upgrade they install openings with
dampers in top of fire box turns warmer into cooker they can leave out divider between char-grill turn into 36 stretch basically as long as a 60 just not as wide.It still in your budget If I had of known this was available its
exactly what I would have bought. BTW I could not be happier with mine
preforms flawlessly. :biggrin1: