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CharredApron
05-29-2013, 01:14 PM
I really want your honest opinion folks. I have never owned a reverse flow smoker before, but I have cooked a whole hog a couple of times before on ones that I've rented.

I have found what I thinks to be a good deal on used, 3 year old Lang 84 Deluxe and received some valuable feed back with respect to pricing, etc. Thanks again to all that replied. :thumb:

But now I want your opinions as to versatility in cooking. I am mainly looking at buying this for personal use for large parties, Small Catering jobs, and I might even try a few local comps for fun.

From all of experience tell me why I Don't want to purchase this new toy. Asking price is $ 3,400.00

Thanks, Jed

Jason TQ
05-29-2013, 01:28 PM
I guess maybe one could question if you really need that much capacity or if you want a larger cooker that you have to feed sticks too vs a large capacity gravity fed.

I certainly don't need that much capacity nor do I want to tend a stick burner all the time and with my schedule this year and all the weekends taken up by competitions I wouldn't even use it that much....................But if it was that price (and the guy might take less) and if it was near me it would already be in my backyard :becky:. Because even if I didn't use it that much I have wanted to cook on a good stickburner and this bbq obsession is crazy and I want to buy every good deal I see :doh:.

If you got the cash go get it. Sorry that was completely the opposite of what your post was asking :razz:.

I doubt you will get many talking you out of it with this bunch of crazies :crazy:, unless they are going to buy it before you :icon_blush:.

Also if you don't end up using it very much you could more than likely sell it for what you paid for it.

DerHusker
05-29-2013, 01:35 PM
Me thinks you've come to the wrong place for said advise.

cpw
05-29-2013, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't buy it if you don't like feeding a fire once an hour, or don't plan on doing big cooks all the time. My teammate has an 84 that we use for competitions, and it means staying up all night feeding it wood. He also has a BGE that he uses to cook on at home, when he's only cooking for himself.

BUT, it is a great cooker and from what I saw, a great price.

BBQ Bandit
05-29-2013, 01:50 PM
The Lang 84 is great for what you are looking for and describing its use for. Its a popular size for catering, parties, and competitions.

Here's some other thoughts to consider.

What vehicle are you planning to tow it with? Not just in weight capacity, but in other ancillary equipment you want to bring with you? Catering and competitions require you to bring your own supporting equipment. In other words... weight adds up real quick. Will you be using multiple vehicles?

Have gone thru multiple configurations over the years... trying to contain the weight, equipment, vehicle and trailer combinations. What worked for me was containing everything within an enclosed trailer... including the Lang.

Thermal Mass
05-29-2013, 01:57 PM
Me thinks you've come to the wrong place for said advise.

^^^^:laugh::pound:

If I was not arse deep in brick and mortar, and was that close to me, would probably have a fire in it by now.:becky: :bolt:

Like fnbish stated, you can give it a run and still come out clean on it?

So there is your push from up north.:mrgreen:

slow-smoker
05-29-2013, 01:58 PM
Jump! :tape:














I never said that....

Teltum
05-29-2013, 02:04 PM
I've been eyeballing a 60D lang so, for your bigger use I would jump at that price.

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 02:24 PM
The Lang 84 is great for what you are looking for and describing its use for. Its a popular size for catering, parties, and competitions.

Here's some other thoughts to consider.

What vehicle are you planning to tow it with? Not just in weight capacity, but in other ancillary equipment you want to bring with you? Catering and competitions require you to bring your own supporting equipment. In other words... weight adds up real quick. Will you be using multiple vehicles?

Have gone thru multiple configurations over the years... trying to contain the weight, equipment, vehicle and trailer combinations. What worked for me was containing everything within an enclosed trailer... including the Lang.
I've got an Ford F350 4wd Diesel with Crew Cab. I previously had a trailer mounted wood fired pizza oven that I pulled behind it. I mounted a 6x5x4 walk-in fridge in the bead and loaded generator, extra coolers of ice and additional equipment. So I am all set as far as that goes.

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s619/hometruckin/zenathewarriorprincess_zps72660d2f.jpg (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/hometruckin/media/zenathewarriorprincess_zps72660d2f.jpg.html)

Pulling this

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s619/hometruckin/Facebook/Timeline%20Photos/541580_10200681214859900_81103793_n.jpg (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/hometruckin/media/Facebook/Timeline%20Photos/541580_10200681214859900_81103793_n.jpg.html)

Thanks for the feedback!

Gore
05-29-2013, 02:31 PM
Color ... I'm just throwing that out there for you to consider. It really seems to clash with your other toys. :cool:

SmokinJohn
05-29-2013, 02:37 PM
Do you need:

To increase your output?
To replace an aging member of your family?
Bragging rights?

Any or all of the above?

Personally, my rigs do all I need for home parties. If I were to get involved in competitions, I might be inclined to get a Lang (though I would really like to enter with 4 UDSs and kick some Lang/Klose butt).

I would try to talk you out of it, but I can't at that price.

deguerre
05-29-2013, 02:42 PM
Cuz you're moving to Chile and shipping would be inconvenient. You should simply buy it and give it to me.:becky:

oifmarine2003
05-29-2013, 02:45 PM
Is this like reverse psychology? If I tell you not to buy it, you are going to buy it?

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 02:46 PM
Cuz you're moving to Chile and shipping would be inconvenient. You should simply buy it and give it to me.:becky:
You slay me!! :laugh: If I like it real good, I'll put in the container and take it with me. Then copy all your cooks for the Chileans to marvel at! I take it you would go for it then Too?

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 02:48 PM
Is this like reverse psychology? If I tell you not to buy it, you are going to buy it?
Not if you can give me good sound logic not too, then I will have to think about it. :loco:

deguerre
05-29-2013, 02:50 PM
I take it you would go for it then Too?

Obviously! If I were in the market for a largish cooker like that, I'd be all over it like white on rice.

Lake Dogs
05-29-2013, 03:33 PM
Keep asking; I'm certain you'll find an answer.

In the mean time I'm sending my wife (who happens to be in Daytona this week) to pick it up. One can never have too many Lang 84's!

Lake Dogs
05-29-2013, 03:34 PM
Seriously, I'll offer the other side. Say for example that it's just too danged big, or you dont like it for this or that reason. Doesn't matter that you're wrong, it's your opinion. Sell the darned thing for $500 profit.

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 03:34 PM
Keep asking; I'm certain you'll find an answer.

In the mean time I'm sending my wife (who happens to be in Daytona this week) to pick it up. One can never have too many Lang 84's!
Thank You for your kindness! :-D
Jed

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 03:36 PM
Seriously, I'll offer the other side. Say for example that it's just too danged big, or you dont like it for this or that reason. Doesn't matter that you're wrong, it's your opinion. Sell the darned thing for $500 profit.
That's what I am thinking too! It's done!

Lake Dogs
05-29-2013, 03:40 PM
It's worth absolutely every penny of $3,500. It's really worth more. I bought a nasty old one that's probably close to 20 years old, really still needs new grates, but works FANTASTIC, and I wouldn't take less than $3000 cash for her; might consider $3,500 if I could take that and couple it with a few more dollars to buy the new one. I love my old 84.

Gull-wing doors to access the food from both sides... Ben does a great job with the RF. The fire box is simple; and I like that about it. Something tells me with your intended uses (they're similar to mine) that you're going to look back and think: WTF was I thinking; delaying!

deguerre
05-29-2013, 03:41 PM
I was wondering when Hance would show up. I immediately thought of him and his 84 as he mentioned it had the capacity for large cooks but could also be used for just cooking a couple of butts if that's what you wanted. Glad you got it Jed!

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 03:49 PM
It's worth absolutely every penny of $3,500. It's really worth more. I bought a nasty old one that's probably close to 20 years old, really still needs new grates, but works FANTASTIC, and I wouldn't take less than $3000 cash for her; might consider $3,500 if I could take that and couple it with a few more dollars to buy the new one. I love my old 84.

Gull-wing doors to access the food from both sides... Ben does a great job with the RF. The fire box is simple; and I like that about it. Something tells me with your intended uses (they're similar to mine) that you're going to look back and think: WTF was I thinking; delaying!
I was a 84 regular build and he had the Warming box added to it locally. Looks like a good job on that. It has been Garage kept. Can't wait to pick her up! Farkin toys, used to be bikes and cycles now its Butts and wrinkles!
Thanks for your input. My Cholesterol thanks you too!
Jed

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 03:51 PM
I was wondering when Hance would show up. I immediately thought of him and his 84 as he mentioned it had the capacity for large cooks but could also be used for just cooking a couple of butts if that's what you wanted. Glad you got it Jed!
It's all your fault! Your a monster! :cool:

deguerre
05-29-2013, 03:53 PM
We Scots got ta hang t'gether else the Brits will hang us separately.

Lake Dogs
05-29-2013, 03:53 PM
It does get to be a bit of a fuel hog if all you're cooking is a butt or two, but I still do it. The quality of the cook is just so much better than my other offset

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 04:11 PM
It does get to be a bit of a fuel hog if all you're cooking is a butt or two, but I still do it. The quality of the cook is just so much better than my other offset
My other cooker is a Vision Kamado and it's great for small jobs, but not so much for parties, I really have to time and hold a lot of different things. I will welcome the space. I get oak at a pretty good price from a local tree guy. Let it burn!

Gary in Va
05-29-2013, 04:20 PM
When I had my eye on the Lang back in 03 I bounced between the 60 and the 84. "I'll never need the capacity of the 84", I said. Well, just before leaving the driveway to head to Nahunta Georgia to compare both of them, my wife told me, "I don't want to hear you say in a year you should have got the bigger one".... PERMISSION GRANTED!.... I bought the 84!.. no regrets... plenty of space, never once have I said, I should have got the smaller one. Anyway... that's more of an argument for the 84 over the 60... but, I will tell you, It will pay for itself in no time. All you need to do is tell friends and family you are doing BBQ this weekend and ask if anyone wants any. You'll start out with 100 lbs of meat on, then 150, then 200 or more... then you will only be notifying half your friends/family. It pays for itself, and you don't have to go full blown into it... do it when you want to start with. Do extra and vacuum bag it and freeze it. People will buy it right out of your freezer.

do it dude... you know you want to...

CharredApron
05-29-2013, 04:38 PM
When I had my eye on the Lang back in 03 I bounced between the 60 and the 84. "I'll never need the capacity of the 84", I said. Well, just before leaving the driveway to head to Nahunta Georgia to compare both of them, my wife told me, "I don't want to hear you say in a year you should have got the bigger one".... PERMISSION GRANTED!.... I bought the 84!.. no regrets... plenty of space, never once have I said, I should have got the smaller one. Anyway... that's more of an argument for the 84 over the 60... but, I will tell you, It will pay for itself in no time. All you need to do is tell friends and family you are doing BBQ this weekend and ask if anyone wants any. You'll start out with 100 lbs of meat on, then 150, then 200 or more... then you will only be notifying half your friends/family. It pays for itself, and you don't have to go full blown into it... do it when you want to start with. Do extra and vacuum bag it and freeze it. People will buy it right out of your freezer.

do it dude... you know you want to...
Thank you Gary, I feel the same way. Heads up on the Wife's comment too! Nothing like an intelligent woman!
Jed

Mark Warren
05-29-2013, 05:11 PM
I would buy a Vault myself with the same money.

http://www.pitmaker.com/product/vin/?vin=23362368