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garzanium
05-18-2013, 06:10 PM
This is a project I have been working on all week after work after my first competition when I loaded up my backwoods and cart on to my 18 foot trailer which really drives my gas mileage down. I decided I needed a solution that was easier to move around from my backyard to the truck. The cart is top heavy which results in a lack of being able to strap it down successfully on a standard trainer as it has a little bit of wobble with the big no flat tires. the last competition I had to get my ramps from my trainer unload it from my patio with the ramp, load it on to the trailer after moving the ramp to the trailer and then laying the entire cart on its side to strap it down....:doh:

I did not feel comfortable with a solution that was hitch mounted in a standard one hitch position. So I decided that 3 hitch positions would eliminate the sway. I took the hitch off of my truck, and welded three tubes on to it. I did the same by welding three tubes under my existing cart.
I also went ahead and fabricated some storage for wood under the cart since there was dead space. I added a door on the right to access the wood.

I purchased the harbor freight table left and it does a pretty good job of lifting the entire cart on to the hitch. removing it, now that's a whole different question.

I also got some vinyl print it out an added one of my favorite barbecue scriptures on to the backwoods.
here it is at the first comp on the trailer.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130427_064448_zps1b2080ca.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130515_181026_zpse77caf65.jpg
does that foo have 3hitch positions...yup

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130516_170304_zps1ed66615.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130517_180143_zps118c2af2.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/IMG_20130517_231222_zps8ec7b0e5.jpg

back on the patio..only a few inches off the patio. I dont plqn on removing it from the truck to cook at a comp

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130517_200900_zps8276e41c.jpg

wood storage

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130517_193955_zps3b6afd33.jpg

access gate for wood
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130517_193908_zps1fb8dfc7.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130517_180205_zps9fc70670.jpg

I hope this holds up....may have to end up getting it painted on

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/garzanium/20130518_173522_zps16390f06.jpg

dwfisk
05-18-2013, 06:13 PM
Great innovation, and a great invocation! very nice work.

Johnny_Crunch
05-18-2013, 06:32 PM
Nice work! I like it!

kitts21
05-19-2013, 02:53 AM
Nice Mod. Badass yota!

BigBellyBBQ
05-19-2013, 03:17 AM
might want to think about a vertical gusset to help distribute the load when you hit a bump, there is alot of leverage / weight on the welds to the box tube

BigBellyBBQ
05-19-2013, 03:19 AM
might want to think about a vertical gusset to help distribute the load when you hit a bump, there is alot of leverage / weight on the welds to the box tube, just a little to help out, like the center original

MAKEITOUTOFWOOD
05-19-2013, 07:30 AM
Great job.

How heavy is it? Is it difficult to get in the hitch?

PaPaQ
05-19-2013, 08:14 AM
Nice cart!

garzanium
05-19-2013, 02:29 PM
Thanks for the complements all. It was fun to build. Will be sharing another grill build I did for a neighbor soon.
might want to think about a vertical gusset to help distribute the load when you hit a bump, there is alot of leverage / weight on the welds to the box tube, just a little to help out, like the center original
Not a bad idea..I don't like welding upside down..so a bit too late to do that now. I feel really good about the welds..got some great penetration and heat. May have to bite the bullet and go ahead and have to weld upside down. Thanks for the tip
Great job.

How heavy is it? Is it difficult to get in the hitch?

Very. Lol. I have no idea, but would guess under 400. Getting it on is super easy..getting it off is more dificult. I really wish I had a tree I could tie the smoker cart to, then just drive away slowly so the cart could just sit on the table lift..I took it off alone yesterday and it was no fun. ..lots of jiggling, lifting and pushing. ..tillit finally popped off onto the awaiting cart.

swamprb
05-20-2013, 06:40 AM
I considered Harbor Freight and Grizzly carts for mounting my Gater (@300lbs) on, but the footprints for the wheels/caster were too narrow and the last thing I wanted was a top heavy smoker to muscle from my trailer to the backyard.

Your cart looks great, but if you go for V3.0, I'd suggest that you make the frame on the right side as high as the smoker so you could tip it back on the fixed wheels and move it around like a hand truck. Weld some D-rings for tie downs, and possibly a pair of scissor jacks to the base to get it on & off the hitch.

Untraceable
05-20-2013, 06:45 AM
Anyone ever try an electric scooter hitch carrier, they have ramps and are rated for 500lbs. I thought I could just push my chubby cart right up the ramp and tie it down

garzanium
05-20-2013, 07:47 AM
I considered Harbor Freight and Grizzly carts for mounting my Gater (@300lbs) on, but the footprints for the wheels/caster were too narrow and the last thing I wanted was a top heavy smoker to muscle from my trailer to the backyard.

Your cart looks great, but if you go for V3.0, I'd suggest that you make the frame on the right side as high as the smoker so you could tip it back on the fixed wheels and move it around like a hand truck. Weld some D-rings for tie downs, and possibly a pair of scissor jacks to the base to get it on & off the hitch.

Won't be a 3.0but that sounds like a good idea. Hopefully someone will read it and learn from ot.I sure know I read every thread and saw every pic there is out there on the subject.

Anyone ever try an electric scooter hitch carrier, they have ramps and are rated for 500lbs. I thought I could just push my chubby cart right up the ramp and tie it down
I think that Would work well. I saw a nice one at harbor freight made of aluminum. That would make it a one man Job to load the carrier to the vehicle . All you would need to do is as a would piece to the ramp so your smoker cOuld roll up smoothly. You could even use a wood moving dolly to put under the chubby to get it in the carrier.