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NCoonis
04-01-2013, 04:01 PM
Whats up guys, check out my UDS Frankenstein. I'm calling it an Offset Vertical Drum Smoker, but if you google that you'll find zero results. Since I couldn't find another one, that made me REALLY want to build one.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77908&stc=1&d=1364848014
My 8 year old son Owen and I have been designing/building it for about 3 months now and with a lot of help from the Brethren I think we've got her dialed in pretty well. Three things I discovered during this process, I love working with my son, I love building BBQ's, and I love JB Weld!!

The Deets:
The fire box is a 33 gallon steel drum with 4 ea 3/4" brass ball valve/iron pipe intakes and two 1-1/8" intake holes with a sheet metal damper. There is a 4" iron pipe connecting the fire box to the
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77906&stc=1&d=1364848014

The Smoke Chamber is a 55 gallon oil drum that I burned 5 pallets in and cleaned with detergent at least three times. It holds three 22" weber grills and has a 4" x 2' x .032 rolled aluminum stack on top. I used a high temp silicone cloth material I had for the gasket around the door, and the diamond plate door I had rolled at a sheet metal shop (I already had the diamond plate, traded the labor of rolling it for some smoked tri-tip).
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77910&stc=1&d=1364849210

The stand is a steel storage shelving unit we modified and added the two lawn mower wheels on a 3/8" all thread axle, and we also added a 4" swivel caster in the front under the firebox drum.

I bought these latches from ebay for $10 each, smokin deal but I didn't realize how huge they were! But we used them anyway.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77907&stc=1&d=1364848014
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77905&stc=1&d=1364848014
Well, there she is. We've used her twice now and aside from some temp issues due to a lack of quality thermometer and two small of an exhaust (originally had just the 2" bung hole on the smoke chamber drum) she works great! Cooked three tri-tip two whole chickens and 15 pounds of brisket and everything so far has came out delicious.

Thanks for letting me share, and I'd really love you comments!

ClintHTX
04-01-2013, 04:37 PM
That is a cool rig!

Chef Jim
04-01-2013, 04:44 PM
Wow I want one, very nice.

flyingbassman5
04-01-2013, 04:50 PM
Looks sweet!!


Now get some food in that puppy!! :thumb:

el_matt
04-01-2013, 05:04 PM
Nicely done. Thinking outside of the box. Digging the diamond plate.

Matt

dwfisk
04-01-2013, 05:21 PM
When you put up your earlier post I was thinking to myself, "self this looks like and offset UDS, but it ain't ugly". I love the diamond plate and the "intake header"!

Johnny_Crunch
04-01-2013, 05:25 PM
Nice rig!

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
04-01-2013, 05:29 PM
I don't understand the intake manifold which lets air in above the fire as far as I can tell?

harris92
04-01-2013, 05:40 PM
Very nice! Congratulations on building a unique smoker....

1911Ron
04-01-2013, 06:33 PM
Very cool, nice job! Good for you having your Son help:clap:
I have one question, what is holding the grates and how solid are they?

pigdog
04-01-2013, 06:49 PM
Looks good. Can we see inside the fire box?

Southern Home Boy
04-01-2013, 07:19 PM
Yeah, I'm with Pig Dog... I'm curios about the fire box. The concept is cool and I dig it, I'm just interested in how you stage your combustibles.

boiler93
04-01-2013, 08:40 PM
Looks awesome but I'm new to this and don't understand what the 4 brass ball valves do but would love to learn.

MikeMc
04-01-2013, 08:46 PM
BADASSS!!!! I think you might have advanced the science here!
How did you join the connecting pipe? Is that where the JB weld is?


I've been lookin for barrels to start a new project, maybe like this. I have 3 racks and a diffuser plate but bending over into the smoke sucks and its blown back on me a time or two.


I'm thinkin a stove pipe damper between barrels would give a lot more control and divert smoke while loading


+1 on lower intakes too but it probly won't matter much.


Great job!

IamMadMan
04-01-2013, 08:54 PM
Looks awesome but I'm new to this and don't understand what the 4 brass ball valves do but would love to learn.

^ +1 ... Me Too

I saw other designs where air brought in above the fire source allows air to the fire as well as air into the cooking chamber for heat mixed with cooler air. Is this the idea with the other ball valves?

NCoonis
04-01-2013, 09:49 PM
I don't understand the intake manifold which lets air in above the fire as far as I can tell?

Hey Jim, the 4 pipes feed the undernieth and to the side of the fire. I use a charcoal basket sitting ontop of two bricks so it's raised up a bit. See the pic.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77922&stc=1&d=1364870801
THis pic only shows two intake pipes (I added the top two later). The one on e the very bottom is a 6" nipple that feeds right underneath the basket which sits ntop of those bricks. The other 3 only have a 2" nipple (like the one shown) that feed the bottom/side of the basket.

NCoonis
04-01-2013, 09:52 PM
Very cool, nice job! Good for you having your Son help:clap:
I have one question, what is holding the grates and how solid are they?

Hey Ron, thanks for the compliment! Each grate is held in place by 3 ea 1/4" x 3" Stainless Steel bolts with SS lock washers and nuts. They are very strong. I thought about JB welding on the bolts, but I decided to leave them removable just in case.

NCoonis
04-01-2013, 10:00 PM
Yeah, I'm with Pig Dog... I'm curios about the fire box. The concept is cool and I dig it, I'm just interested in how you stage your combustibles.

Thanks a lot guys, I attached a pic above of the inside of the fire barrel. It only shows the two intake pipes (I've since added two more on top) but you get the idea.

The bottom intake pipe draws air right the the bottom underneath the charcoal barrel (which sits up ontop of those bricks) and the othe three pipes feed air to the side of the basket starting from the bottom going up.

I guess I could have NOT put them vertically and tried to put them side by side around the barrel, but I was going for a monster smoker intake manifold look. It seems to work fine, in fact that barrel gets hotter than... well it gets hot!!

NCoonis
04-01-2013, 10:04 PM
BADASSS!!!! I think you might have advanced the science here!
How did you join the connecting pipe? Is that where the JB weld is?


I've been lookin for barrels to start a new project, maybe like this. I have 3 racks and a diffuser plate but bending over into the smoke sucks and its blown back on me a time or two.


I'm thinkin a stove pipe damper between barrels would give a lot more control and divert smoke while loading


+1 on lower intakes too but it probly won't matter much.




Great job!

Thanks Mike! Yes that is where the ol JB weld came in. I did do some actual mig welding. We tact welded the barrels to the stand and all the joints on the stand, but the 4" iron pipe was two thick of a metal compared to the drums and we just kept burning holes in the drums. So we went with JB weld for that and all the intake pipe and the chimney and.... well you get the point, I love that stuff!

dealm9
04-01-2013, 10:07 PM
This is by far one of the most unique smokers I have seen and I absolutely love it. As far as connecting the two drums, how did you make the holes in the drum and did you use jb weld to connect them? I do not have a welder, but if jb weld is able to connect the drums well then I might give this a try.

NCoonis
04-01-2013, 11:12 PM
This is by far one of the most unique smokers I have seen and I absolutely love it. As far as connecting the two drums, how did you make the holes in the drum and did you use jb weld to connect them? I do not have a welder, but if jb weld is able to connect the drums well then I might give this a try.

Thanks a lot! Yes I used JB weld. I got a 1' piece of 4" black iron pipe for free from a pipe fitter off a job site, traced around the pipe onto the drums, and cut out the holes with a jig saw. Then I slid the pipe through connecting the drums. We tried to tack weld it but the pipe was too thick and the drums were too thin, we kept burning holes in the drums.

I ended up JB welding the pipe on the inside and outside of each drum. That stuff works like a charm, I used it all over this build. I used the two part black and red tubes that you mix equal parts together. It takes 24 hours to dry and once it does, it's never coming apart. I've seen guys use it to fix cracks in engine blocks, it's rated upto like 3000 degrees I think.

BigBellyBen77
04-01-2013, 11:20 PM
Looks Awesome!

NCoonis
04-02-2013, 10:11 AM
This is by far one of the most unique smokers I have seen and I absolutely love it. As far as connecting the two drums, how did you make the holes in the drum and did you use jb weld to connect them? I do not have a welder, but if jb weld is able to connect the drums well then I might give this a try.

Mark, let me know if you're serious about building something similar to this, I would love to give you some pointers (so you can skip some of the trial and error that I went through). I also video taped the whole build from start to finish, as soon as I edit it all together I'll put it on YouTube and post the link.

wolfkeg
04-02-2013, 10:36 AM
with the intakes pointed upwards are you at all concerned with water getting in the firebox if a storm blows in during a cook?

NCoonis
04-02-2013, 11:17 AM
with the intakes pointed upwards are you at all concerned with water getting in the firebox if a storm blows in during a cook?

Not really, I'm in Los Angeles.... we don't have storms. I'd be more worried about someone rear ending it with their car or beating it up at a Dodger game.

Wampus
04-02-2013, 12:33 PM
Ingenius idea!


Love it. That thing should hold a TON of Q!
Great job! :clap:

J-Rod
04-02-2013, 01:23 PM
Nice build. That sucker should hold a lotta grub. Get smokin and post some cookin pics!

oifmarine2003
04-02-2013, 01:28 PM
Me gusta mucho. And, I like it a lot. :wink: Nice build. I would love to see the video as well.

NCoonis
04-02-2013, 01:57 PM
Nice build. That sucker should hold a lotta grub. Get smokin and post some cookin pics!

Thanks for the compliments! Her are some pics from my first cook (4 tri-tips and 2 whole chickens with plenty of room for more)
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77674&d=1364494399
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77673&d=1364494357

Just BS
04-02-2013, 03:43 PM
Farkin' awesome!

I totally want one...

ekamm
04-02-2013, 04:08 PM
Great ingenuity, my first smoker was an old charcoaler and a small water tank that were kinda shoved together. Yours is more an art piece and probably pretty light weight. Nice work.

dealm9
04-02-2013, 10:29 PM
Mark, let me know if you're serious about building something similar to this, I would love to give you some pointers (so you can skip some of the trial and error that I went through). I also video taped the whole build from start to finish, as soon as I edit it all together I'll put it on YouTube and post the link.

Awesome thanks for the offer. I am looking to build a new smoker this summer. If I decide on trying to build something like this I would love your expertise. I will pm you when the time gets loser to when I have time to start planning and building

NCoonis
04-03-2013, 11:35 AM
Awesome thanks for the offer. I am looking to build a new smoker this summer. If I decide on trying to build something like this I would love your expertise. I will pm you when the time gets loser to when I have time to start planning and building

Sounds great buddy. By the way, use the word "expertise" lightly, haha!! More like I can tell you everything I screwed up!

deguerre
04-03-2013, 12:49 PM
La Mirada...that build most definitely has "The Look".

Please tell me the skin on this bird tasted as good as it looked?

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77673&d=1364494357

That is one gorgeous chicken.

NCoonis
04-03-2013, 01:43 PM
La Mirada...that build most definitely has "The Look".

Please tell me the skin on this bird tasted as good as it looked?

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77673&d=1364494357

That is one gorgeous chicken.

Thanks buddy, oh you know how good those chicks were!!! All we put on them was a little oil and salt (my wifes idea, of course I wanted to put all kinds of crap on them!) and we let the smoke do the rest. They were great!!

funugy
04-03-2013, 02:25 PM
Great looking build. I love the idea. Maybe one day I might decide to take on a build like that.

How is the fuel consumption?

Gulf Coast Blue
04-03-2013, 02:40 PM
Cool.....I want one.

Joel

NCoonis
04-03-2013, 09:56 PM
Great looking build. I love the idea. Maybe one day I might decide to take on a build like that.

How is the fuel consumption?

Well I burned a 15 pound bag of kingsford hickory charcoal in my basket using the minion method and a $20 bag of apple wood chunks that I random through in, and that lasted the 6 hours I cooked the brisket in. It was still hot when I was done, I'm sure it would have lasted a few more hours at least.

NCoonis
04-03-2013, 09:58 PM
Cool.....I want one.

Joel

Well, make me an offer, haha! Just kidding, building them is half the fun right?

Buried In Smoke
04-04-2013, 08:14 AM
Love the build! Seriously, awesome idea you came up with and put together there.

Shagdog
07-02-2013, 01:11 PM
Great job! So glad I found this thread. I actually joined the forum just to see your pics. I've been drawing up plans for a smoker like this, but I couldn't find anyone else who had built one like it. I'd love to talk to you about the finer points sometime. I've got a rib throwdown coming up in a couple months, and I think it would be pretty cool to show up with this type of rig.

Tsevg9
07-02-2013, 01:16 PM
Nice looking rig. You can't beat home made!

oldbill
07-02-2013, 05:57 PM
Now that's my idea of a UDS!!! That baby will hold some meat with three Webber grates and it looks a little like a Bandera too, so there's probably a lot of jealous farkers on here right now!!!! Good Job!:thumb:

farklf
07-02-2013, 06:12 PM
Nice!