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Bamabuzzard
04-01-2013, 01:16 PM
I know "everything" is increasing in price. But I'm having a hard time forking over the money it now cost for beef, specifically brisket. I talked with a guy Saturday that said more than likely it is going to get worse. That because of this drought a lot farmers sold off all their cattle creating a shortage. I'm not up to snuff on all that so I guess he's right.

But it sure is nice that our local groceries have recently some ran some dang good sales on pork butts. To the tune of .99/lb. I just wish brisket were a bit lower because I need more "practice" on it than pork butts.

landarc
04-01-2013, 01:21 PM
I can't help but wonder if there isn't some other supply/demand thing going on as well. Like that brisket for BBQ has become all the rage, even out here in California, where it never sold well before. Suddenly, I have been hearing and reading folks out here all talking about you can tell a good BBQ place by it's brisket, I love brisket, brisket is BBQ etc... I notice that chuck and sirloin remain pretty stable in price and availability

Gore
04-01-2013, 01:28 PM
I can't help but wonder if there isn't some other supply/demand thing going on as well. Like that brisket for BBQ has become all the rage, even out here in California, where it never sold well before. Suddenly, I have been hearing and reading folks out here all talking about you can tell a good BBQ place by it's brisket, I love brisket, brisket is BBQ etc... I notice that chuck and sirloin remain pretty stable in price and availability

In Maryland it has always been expensive ($5/pound is a good price here and I've seen select for $9/pound at regular grocery stores) and we have ZERO BBQ tradition and few places that even sell BBQ. BBQ is all about taking cheap cuts of meat and making them taste good. It doesn't have to be brisket. I'm very happy to cook chuckies and they're less than half the price. They're also easier and very tasty. I love brisket, but I'm not a brisket snob. :drama:

landarc
04-01-2013, 01:41 PM
Gore, they have to import those briskets from Texas to Maryland. It is well known that steer in the Maryland area have no briskets. Hence the extra cost.

Cayman1
04-01-2013, 01:46 PM
Thank the elected officials in DC for a lot of this problem, they are the ones that passed the requirement that 30% or so of all corn production must go to produce ethanol. Never mind about food for people or livestock. Di**heads!

I think it is a location thing though, I just paid $3.39 for CAB packers.

Bludawg
04-01-2013, 01:54 PM
I just P/u a Butt and a Brisket this morning. Butts 1.98 lb Brisket 1.97 lb It's good to live in TX however they Kill me on the pig prices. I looked at some ribs 3.00 lb for shiners :crazy:

Bamabuzzard
04-01-2013, 01:56 PM
I just P/u a Butt and a Brisket this morning. Butts 1.98 lb Brisket 1.97 lb It's good to live in TX however they Kill me on the pig prices. I looked at some ribs 3.00 lb for shiners :crazy:


WOW! :shock:

Johnny_Crunch
04-01-2013, 01:59 PM
It's good too live in TX for brisket. I just bought 2 more at HEB for .98 per lb. Best sale of the year! Even when not on sale it's 2.29 or so everyday somewhere.

Bamabuzzard
04-01-2013, 02:02 PM
It's good too live in TX for brisket. I just bought 2 more at HEB for .98 per lb. Best sale of the year! Even when not on sale it's 2.29 or so everyday somewhere.

That's how butts are here. It's nothing for them to run sales on butts ranging from .78/lb to .99/lb. Briskets? Not a chance.

Gulf Coast Blue
04-01-2013, 02:04 PM
I just P/u a Butt and a Brisket this morning. Butts 1.98 lb Brisket 1.97 lb It's good to live in TX however they Kill me on the pig prices. I looked at some ribs 3.00 lb for shiners :crazy:

HEB had brisket locally for $0.99/lb. with a $ 20 additional purchase. I bought two (the limit).

Joel

Garrett
04-01-2013, 02:09 PM
I just bought a CAB packer from my local SAMs that don't usually Cary them. When I seen the price I snatched it up quickly. $2.89/lb. I was very happy to see it.

BobBrisket
04-01-2013, 02:09 PM
I can't get the .99 lb brisket sales anymore. Cheapest sale prices I've seen is in the 1.69 range which is still very good. My problem is that I've noticed the fat caps getting bigger and the meat a lot thinner. It's hard to find em with thinner fat caps. When I do find one, I don't mind spending the money on it cause at least I'm paying for more meat than fat.

Gulf Coast Blue
04-01-2013, 02:12 PM
HEB did have some nice flats for around $2.99/lb with no other purchase limits. The cheaper ones did have a big fat cap.

Cabin Fever
04-01-2013, 02:12 PM
I haven't cooked a full packer brisket in over 4 years due to their price. I can buy all natural 8-10 pound bone in pork butts all day long at Wegmans for less than $12 each and yet 10-14 pound briskets at Wal-Mart run around $45-$60. I simply can't afford that and the worst part is that Wally World carries the bottom of the barrel as far as quality goes. I couldn't imagine what others are paying for packers that are actually a better grade. :cry:

Bludawg
04-01-2013, 02:12 PM
HEB had brisket locally for $0.99/lb. with a $ 20 additional purchase. I bought two (the limit).

JoelNot mine they never put ANYTHING ON SALE because they have a Monopoly out here in the sticks.

landarc
04-01-2013, 02:13 PM
Thank the elected officials in DC for a lot of this problem, they are the ones that passed the requirement that 30% or so of all corn production must go to produce ethanol. Never mind about food for people or livestock. Di**heads!

I think it is a location thing though, I just paid $3.39 for CAB packers.
Or you could thank the corn lobbyists who pushed for laws making it illegal to sell ethanol that is not corn sourced.

Truth is, there is low cost beef out there, but, you have to want the right cut in the right location. Right now, tri-tip could not be easier to find out here. Cheap and plentiful, and some really good looking ones. No kidding though, many of the higher end butcher shops are selling brisket and even packers, if you ask. And that is really different from the past in CA.

Fat Woody
04-01-2013, 02:19 PM
Our closest Sam's recently LOWERED the price on their choice packers from 2.48/lb. (which they were all last year) to 2.28/lb.

RD had choice packers in their last flyer here for 2.29/lb./case, 2.44/lb. unit.

Just heard on the news that corn futures are falling due to record acreage planted; maybe that will help negate the rising cost of beef? Still, if you've got a freezer...


Go figure...

mbshop
04-01-2013, 02:24 PM
yea, briskets here have held steady and reasonable so far. but stuff like t bone steaks have gone nuts. $9 a pound ? forgetaboutit !

Bamabuzzard
04-01-2013, 02:27 PM
But here's what's nuts. They can run a sale on NY Strips at $3.99/lb? Doesn't make sense to my feeble mind.

Gulf Coast Blue
04-01-2013, 02:30 PM
Not mine they never put ANYTHING ON SALE because they have a Monopoly out here in the sticks.

I used to have to travel to Meridian, Clifton and McGregor periodically for work.....you are right, you are limited in your choices nearby. The town I now live in is about 3000 people....but Lake Jackson is just 15 miles away.

dwfisk
04-01-2013, 02:38 PM
I found a food service company that caters to restaurants and independent groceries, you know those smaller semi's with all the fancy food graphics that do the deliveries. In our little part of north Florida we have two pretty good sized operations so I'm pretty confident there are regional counterparts pretty much everywhere. Anyhow, I found one that has a will call desk that will sell to the public and they have everything from meats to paper products & condiments. The only catch: you need to purchase in their case lots. For choice brisket that's 5 15 pounders per case for about $2.50 per pound. Pork spare ribs, 9 racks 36 pounds per case for $2.00 per pound. I've found the quality excellent.

stl-rich
04-01-2013, 02:54 PM
In STL Sam's club has packers for more than $4/pound. Pork loins are $2/pound and the pork in almost 100% edible. Guess which we've been eating :-)

tx_hellraiser
04-01-2013, 03:28 PM
WOW! :shock:

Tomball HEB had brisket for 99 cents a pound this past weekend

tish
04-01-2013, 03:39 PM
I haven't cooked a full packer brisket in over 4 years due to their price. I can buy all natural 8-10 pound bone in pork butts all day long at Wegmans for less than $12 each and yet 10-14 pound briskets at Wal-Mart run around $45-$60. I simply can't afford that and the worst part is that Wally World carries the bottom of the barrel as far as quality goes. I couldn't imagine what others are paying for packers that are actually a better grade. :cry:

Wow. You're paying $4.50/lb. for brisket at your Wally World? We're paying $2/lb. less at our WW here in PA. Guess I'm just not understanding how the same store charges different prices to that extent in different areas. :confused:

Bamabuzzard
04-01-2013, 03:44 PM
Wow. You're paying $4.50/lb. for brisket at your Wally World? We're paying $2/lb. less at our WW here in PA. Guess I'm just not understanding how the same store charges different prices to that extent in different areas. :confused:

We're paying up to $3.07/lb here and as low as $2.67/lb depending on when they decide to run sales or not. So do the math. Even at $2.67/lb you're still paying $32 for a 12 lb brisket and that's not including sales tax which would push it to $35. Trust me, it sux. :mmph:

tish
04-01-2013, 03:50 PM
We're paying up to $3.07/lb here and as low as $2.67/lb depending on when they decide to run sales or not. So do the math. Even at $2.67/lb you're still paying $32 for a 12 lb brisket and that's not including sales tax which would push it to $35. Trust me, it sux. :mmph:

I believe it. That's nasty. :twitch:

Haveuseen1?
04-01-2013, 04:13 PM
2.38-2.48 a pound here in North Alabama. That would include Sams or Kroger for Choice packer briskets. At that price it seems like a no brianer vs Ribeye or New York Strip. Ground beef ( 73/27 ) is 2.49 a pound. So we buy 12 pound packers for less than 30 dollars, cook, vaccum seal, and eat. We can always find pork butts for around 1.00 per pound. I like them both, but the truth is pork is not beef, and beef is not pork. If I want a big slice of beef, a pulled pork sandwhich is not going to fix that.

Vision
04-01-2013, 04:28 PM
In Maryland it has always been expensive ($5/pound is a good price here and I've seen select for $9/pound at regular grocery stores) and we have ZERO BBQ tradition and few places that even sell BBQ. BBQ is all about taking cheap cuts of meat and making them taste good. It doesn't have to be brisket. I'm very happy to cook chuckies and they're less than half the price. They're also easier and very tasty. I love brisket, but I'm not a brisket snob. :drama:

Gore, I don't know where you are but there is fair priced brisket in MD. You have to look for it as the demand for packers is low.

Gore
04-01-2013, 04:38 PM
Gore, I don't know where you are but there is fair priced brisket in MD. You have to look for it as the demand for packers is low.

Thanks, I haven't seen any in my area. I still check the local stores from time to time, but I can't recall seeing less than $5/ pound in I don't know how long. Even our Costco is never below $5/pound if they even have it at all.

Daggs
04-01-2013, 09:42 PM
I'm getting flats for $2.48 at my local SAMs. The order got screwed up and I was told I could have flats at packer price!

Pyle's BBQ
04-01-2013, 10:13 PM
Thank the elected officials in DC for a lot of this problem, they are the ones that passed the requirement that 30% or so of all corn production must go to produce ethanol. Never mind about food for people or livestock. Di**heads!

I think it is a location thing though, I just paid $3.39 for CAB packers.

Or you could thank the corn lobbyists who pushed for laws making it illegal to sell ethanol that is not corn sourced.

Truth is, there is low cost beef out there, but, you have to want the right cut in the right location. Right now, tri-tip could not be easier to find out here. Cheap and plentiful, and some really good looking ones. No kidding though, many of the higher end butcher shops are selling brisket and even packers, if you ask. And that is really different from the past in CA.

You both are wrong about ethanol. There is a by-product from the production of ethanol called distillers grains. This is used as feed for cattle. So blaming ethanol doesn't hold water in this case.

FMJ
04-01-2013, 10:36 PM
Thank the elected officials in DC for a lot of this problem, they are the ones that passed the requirement that 30% or so of all corn production must go to produce ethanol. Never mind about food for people or livestock. Di**heads!

I think it is a location thing though, I just paid $3.39 for CAB packers.

Feedlots use all the distillers grain they can get, it's actually higher in protein than ground corn. Very little corn product is "consumed" in the ethanol process.

BigBellyBen77
04-01-2013, 11:27 PM
The shortage of corn as well as severe droughts have led to a drop in supply. My parents have a cattle operation in Colorado and have had to sell some of the herd off and may have to do more. The other issue driving prices up is with gas prices high the transportation cost increases. I can usually find brisket for around 2.40/lb but am contacting some local beef producers about buying directly from them.

Bamabuzzard
04-02-2013, 07:23 AM
The shortage of corn as well as severe droughts have led to a drop in supply. My parents have a cattle operation in Colorado and have had to sell some of the herd off and may have to do more. The other issue driving prices up is with gas prices high the transportation cost increases. I can usually find brisket for around 2.40/lb but am contacting some local beef producers about buying directly from them.


This is what I've been told as well. Farmers selling off their herds and the rising prices of fuel driving up transportation cost.

Gnaws on Pigs
04-02-2013, 07:32 AM
If you can find packers around here, they're gonna set you back about $50-$60 in the few places I've seen them. And stuff like flank steak and skirt steak-about $15-$20 for a piece. What's funny is that there are bazillions of beef cattle grown here-most of the land is too steep to crop farm, so it's mostly cow pastures. Now pork-it's pretty cheap. I bought whole butts for .99 a lb. a couple weeks ago.

bigticket1
04-02-2013, 07:48 AM
You both are wrong about ethanol. There is a by-product from the production of ethanol called distillers grains. This is used as feed for cattle. So blaming ethanol doesn't hold water in this case.
Exactly - the main reason for potential higher beef prices is the severe drought that has caused cow-calf producers in Texas are other big cattle states to liquidate their cow herds , which will eventually lead to lower supplies.

Vision
04-02-2013, 08:07 AM
Thanks, I haven't seen any in my area. I still check the local stores from time to time, but I can't recall seeing less than $5/ pound in I don't know how long. Even our Costco is never below $5/pound if they even have it at all.

Where are you?

jestridge
04-02-2013, 08:39 AM
well corn prices suppose to be cheaper this year,and cattle prices have drop some , in the next few month they should be dropping, but like someone said brisket is a popular meat

WareZdaBeef
04-02-2013, 11:28 AM
Here in PA brisket is expensive. Even at the wholesale clubs your paying $4.00/lb. I found that your better off getting a pre-trimmed brisket for $5.00/lb because the amount of fat you would trim off would more then make up for that extra $1/lb. Plus they tend to pre-trim the briskets with more meat on them. I have a rule of thumb , well 3 thumbs...If the flat end is less then 3 thumbs thick of meat it doesnt go into my shopping cart. I laugh when i see a brisket being sold with 3 inches of fat and 1 inch of meat at the flat end.

Ackman
04-02-2013, 11:59 AM
Clearly I live in the wrong place, briskets run about $6.00 a pound, and the funny thing is I almost never see them on sale but I can regularly buy Porterhouse steaks for $5.00 a pound and the Butts $3.00+.

Flat_Rate
04-02-2013, 11:59 AM
I don't do brisket anymore, I like eating it but won't pay for it, not when I can still get chicken at reasonable prices. Haven't done ribs in awhile for the same reason, when I want beef I'll try and find a chuck roast on sale and do Pepper Stout or make burnt ends. Tastes the same in the end.

landarc
04-02-2013, 12:03 PM
Chicken costs me more than brisket these days

WareZdaBeef
04-02-2013, 12:15 PM
Im addicted to smoking briskets. Once you perfect making them, you wont want butts,ribs,or chickens anymore. But, judging by my nickname you can clearly see im bias.

I havent tried smoking chuck roast yet, but I rarely see them under $3.49/lb so not much cheaper then brisket. I hear people talk about other cuts, but ive not seen the cuts mentioned in any grocery or wholesale clubs in my area.

Bamabuzzard
04-02-2013, 12:46 PM
Im addicted to smoking briskets. Once you perfect making them, you wont want butts,ribs,or chickens anymore. But, judging by my nickname you can clearly see im bias.

I havent tried smoking chuck roast yet, but I rarely see them under $3.49/lb so not much cheaper then brisket. I hear people talk about other cuts, but ive not seen the cuts mentioned in any grocery or wholesale clubs in my area.

I've yet to taste a brisket this good. :biggrin1:

WareZdaBeef
04-02-2013, 12:56 PM
I've yet to taste a brisket this good. :biggrin1:

I'll try my best...
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2cf7i43.jpg

Bamabuzzard
04-02-2013, 12:58 PM
No doubt I luvz me some brisket. But I also luvs me some ribs (both beef and pork), pulled pork and chicken. Safe to say I like it all. LOL!

landarc
04-02-2013, 01:03 PM
Distiller's grains (http://www.ksgrains.com/ethanol/DDGSFacts.pdf) is a corn based by product from the production of ethanol. The laws may have changed in the past 5 or 6 years, but, as of 2006, the last year I paid attention, ethanol was required to be produced from around 90% corn sourced material. The fact that distiller's grain is not corn anymore, does not mean it is not corn based feed. And the cost of corn, at a commodity level is a factor in the cost of feed still.

BTW, corn based feed (formula) is only used in the final month or so of the steer's life. Most all beef in this country is raised on grass, at pasture. They are not put on formula until just before slaughter, as there is no premium if fattening a steer on pasture. The time in the feedlot is when formula is fed. I would venture that fuel costs far outweigh feed costs in bringing animals to market.

And I still say, it is market demand that determines final costs at market, and regional variations in demand, such that tri-tip is much cheaper here than in, let's say, Memphis. This is because we eat a lot more tri-tip here. Brisket is cheaper in Texas, because everyone there eats brisket, until 3 years ago, pracitically nobody ate brisket in California, and it was hard to find brisket in any grocery store. Not true anymore.

caseydog
04-02-2013, 01:23 PM
Thank the elected officials in DC for a lot of this problem, they are the ones that passed the requirement that 30% or so of all corn production must go to produce ethanol. Never mind about food for people or livestock. Di**heads!

I think it is a location thing though, I just paid $3.39 for CAB packers.

I live three blocks from a working horse and cattle ranch. This field that I drive by daily was pretty much empty in the summer of 2011. If we have another big drought, the cattle will be sold off, again, although this ranch does grow it's own hay -- enough to last through a NORMAL year.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=494&pictureid=5683

I also live in a state that was ravaged by drought in 2011. Ranchers are starting to stock up again, after being faced in 2011-2012 with the decision of selling off stock, or buying expensive hay to feed them. The Midwest had it's big drought last summer. Double whammy.

Corn is generally only used in feed lots to fatten the cattle up right before final sale. On ranches, the preferred (cheapest) feed is grass growing naturally in the fields. And, corn is actually bad for cattle. They can eat it, if you pump them full of antibiotics.

I know it's fun to blame government for things, but in this case, mother nature was the biggest culprit.

CD

J-Rod
04-02-2013, 01:28 PM
Thank the elected officials in DC for a lot of this problem, they are the ones that passed the requirement that 30% or so of all corn production must go to produce ethanol. Never mind about food for people or livestock. Di**heads!



I prefer grass fed :razz:

Regarding the OP, I agree with you. Brisket is after all a "cheap cut" so it's kind of silly it costs so much. Like others said it's probably a supply and demand thing. Probably why I cook a lot of pork, and when I want beef I just pick up a nice chuckie.

charrederhead
04-02-2013, 06:42 PM
Lol. Last year, when my smoking "career" began, and after reading so much here about the Glory of The Brisket and the "difficulty" of cooking it correctly, I decided, after several butt/picnic cooks, to hence set forth and try my hand at the Holy Grail Of Q....I had never even seen a brisket before (sheltered life i guess :oops:)...I can't remember what store I was in when I finally found the brisket. When I saw the price, I literally said, aloud, in front of other customers of all ages, are you "farking kidding me??!".

My personal economics will have to improve (or I'll have to emigrate to the Republic of Texas) before I fork over that kind of dough for a hunk of cow that I may render nearly inedible on the WSM. I guess I could thin the Weber kettle herd, but that would be like giving my own children away. :wink:

ButtBurner
04-02-2013, 06:46 PM
I am lucky I guess

I pay around the same price as ground beef, about $2.50 lb or so