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Will work for bbq
02-11-2013, 12:06 PM
My first hanger worked great but it sat on top of the WSM rim and would not let the lid fully seat which I thought would be ok since that's how my BIL's run their drums. It ran rock solid at 295 but I had to close the top vent because of the extra draft created by the lid not being seated.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/hangers_zps46098c63.jpg

So onto hanger mod 2.0. First I was going to roll some steel and weld in the cross bars but I was pressed for time since I wanted it for the Musical TD (http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2363569#post2363569) and decided to burn it out of 1/2" hr plate.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/musical/heavymetal.jpg

Here it is in action, the lid was able to fully seat and give me perfect temperature control.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/musical/hangingwiththebabes.jpg

The Guru did help some with the temp control.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/musical/Rocksolid.jpg

And the results were absolutely spectacular, this is the breast after about a 15 min rest.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/musical/spectacular2.jpg

foam2
02-11-2013, 12:10 PM
It looks great - good job!!

basuraman
02-11-2013, 12:11 PM
hmm..you might be able to market those. Nice looking. What is the cost to make it?

Carbon
02-11-2013, 12:17 PM
Very nice job indeed!

superlazy
02-11-2013, 12:19 PM
I'd buy 1

Big dawg
02-11-2013, 12:23 PM
Nice mod.


Jrow

nucornhusker
02-11-2013, 12:23 PM
That looks awesome!

Where did you get the hooks?

caliking
02-11-2013, 12:31 PM
That's a great mod! I'm sure more than a few folks would be interested in buying one.

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
02-11-2013, 01:01 PM
Even better than my rebar circle w/ 2 cross bars idea. Great craftsmanship too.

If that is for your 22.5 WSM, it might work without much effort for a UDS.

bacchus99
02-11-2013, 01:03 PM
What are the advantages to hanging the meat?

Freddy j
02-11-2013, 01:12 PM
My first hanger worked great but it sat on top of the WSM rim and would not let the lid fully seat which I thought would be ok since that's how my BIL's run their drums. It ran rock solid at 295 but I had to close the top vent because of the extra draft created by the lid not being seated.



So onto hanger mod 2.0. First I was going to roll some steel and weld in the cross bars but I was pressed for time since I wanted it for the Musical TD (http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2363569#post2363569) and decided to burn it out of 1/2" hr plate.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/musical/heavymetal.jpg


http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Q-TADO/musical/hangingwiththebabes.jpg





that is just plain awesome!

dadsr4
02-11-2013, 01:38 PM
That looks awesome!

Where did you get the hooks?
For a source, try Googling "meat hooks".

Carbon
02-11-2013, 01:53 PM
For a source, try Googling "meat hooks".

I took a set of old metal skewers, cut, and bent them into meat hooks.

TBASS
02-11-2013, 02:08 PM
That mod just rocks. Can you say "Shark Tank".

charrederhead
02-11-2013, 02:10 PM
Wow. The perfect combo of form and function. Bravo! :clap2: Patent that thing.

caliking
02-11-2013, 02:33 PM
For the rest of us mere mortals who don't own that kinda fancy gear, nor have much in terms of metal working skills (ok fine, I meant mainly me) - what about taking a standard weber grate and cutting out a bunch of bars that go across the grate to make a frame of sorts with crossbars? It would be easier to handle than the hooks under a standard grate, I think.

Chef Jim
02-11-2013, 03:30 PM
For the rest of us mere mortals who don't own that kinda fancy gear, nor have much in terms of metal working skills (ok fine, I meant mainly me) - what about taking a standard weber grate and cutting out a bunch of bars that go across the grate to make a frame of sorts with crossbars? It would be easier to handle than the hooks under a standard grate, I think.

I don't have the gear of the talent either but your idea sounds perfect. Low cost. I might just try that.

Will work for bbq
02-11-2013, 03:35 PM
Thanks for all the compliments, I'm not set up as a vendor so I wont comment on pricing other than to say making it out of one piece like I did will cost a lot more than if you were to roll the outer ring then weld two crossbars (not as cool as the 1 piece though). If anyone is interested I'd be happy to provide a drawing and maybe one of the board vendors like Meyer Metal Works can produce these for you guys.... Fark that on second thought attached is the pdf drawing of the grate.

That looks awesome!

Where did you get the hooks?

I made the hooks myself with some 3/16" dia 304 stainless I bought at Mcmaster Carr and used this to bend them.

http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents/gfx/small/2460ap2s.png?ver=10407617

What are the advantages to hanging the meat?

Hanging meat is nothing new, some have been doing it for years in simple barrels with no mods. But the PBC has really brought it to another level and really raised awareness of the style of cooking. It does produce really moist evenly cooked food without the need to really have to tend or flip the meat.

PigBeter
02-11-2013, 03:36 PM
For the rest of us mere mortals who don't own that kinda fancy gear, nor have much in terms of metal working skills (ok fine, I meant mainly me) - what about taking a standard weber grate and cutting out a bunch of bars that go across the grate to make a frame of sorts with crossbars? It would be easier to handle than the hooks under a standard grate, I think.

Great idea man!

Vision
02-11-2013, 03:38 PM
How much for one for an 18"?

Carbon
02-11-2013, 03:42 PM
For the rest of us mere mortals who don't own that kinda fancy gear, nor have much in terms of metal working skills (ok fine, I meant mainly me) - what about taking a standard weber grate and cutting out a bunch of bars that go across the grate to make a frame of sorts with crossbars? It would be easier to handle than the hooks under a standard grate, I think.



I posted this Weber open wire grate alternative in another thread earlier today where you can hang your meat through.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202509599/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=weber+grate&storeId=10051#.URkt0x00WSo

dadsr4
02-11-2013, 03:45 PM
For the rest of us mere mortals who don't own that kinda fancy gear, nor have much in terms of metal working skills (ok fine, I meant mainly me) - what about taking a standard weber grate and cutting out a bunch of bars that go across the grate to make a frame of sorts with crossbars? It would be easier to handle than the hooks under a standard grate, I think.
Unless you have an old grate, buying one of these might be a better idea.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/07/79/24/00/0007792400490_300X300.jpg

It's heaver duty than the standard grate and is still usable as a grate as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-8835-Gourmet-System-Cooking/dp/B0044EQM9Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360615172&sr=8-1&keywords=weber+grill+grate+system

---k---
02-11-2013, 04:25 PM
Very cool. Glad it worked for you.

I'm curious where you placed you're Guru probe and were measuring temperature? Also, I'm curious if you really think you need the Guru for a short cook like this.

I haven't decided yet whether the meat hanging produces better results than just say laying the chicken halves flat over direct heat at higher temps. There is a part of me that thinks there is something to hanging, and a part of me that thinks that's crazy.... I'll eventually get around to testing this side by side.

stephan
02-11-2013, 04:29 PM
Very nice mod.

caliking
02-11-2013, 04:29 PM
Ya know what I love about this place?... Fertile minds. Throw an idea out there and immediately you have the power of the brethren mulling it over, sharing what they have already tried, and letting you know what they think might work better. Love it!

The Weber grate above reminded me that I have this: http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_507255_-1

I have used it on my performer for some time and like it a lot. If I can't hang the meat off the outer grate i can at least get some bars to lay across the hole left by the insert. Plus, its on clearance now.

Time to go shopping!

[@will work for bbq: I apologize for going off on a tangent, but your mod got the ol creaky wheels turning!)

Will work for bbq
02-11-2013, 06:10 PM
How much for one for an 18"?

This one cost me $0.00 to make, My best guess if someone wanted to make and sell these 1 piece they would probably run about $90.00 each for flame cut. I can measure my 18" when I get home.

Very cool. Glad it worked for you.

I'm curious where you placed you're Guru probe and were measuring temperature? Also, I'm curious if you really think you need the Guru for a short cook like this.

I haven't decided yet whether the meat hanging produces better results than just say laying the chicken halves flat over direct heat at higher temps. There is a part of me that thinks there is something to hanging, and a part of me that thinks that's crazy.... I'll eventually get around to testing this side by side.

I clipped the temp probe directly to the WSM lid therm probe, that way the temp was a true temp at the lid. The Guru is probably overkill on a short cook but it sure was nice not to have to monitor the temp plus I put the meat probe in the smallest chicken halve (set to 160*) so I would have an idea when they were getting close. The Guru also allowed me to use the minion method with only about 25 lit coals spread over the entire surface area of my charcoal basket as opposed to having to light more briqs. It was up to 300* with clean blue in about 30 minutes. Next time I'm going to try it at 325 to see if I can get a little better skin.


[@will work for bbq: I apologize for going off on a tangent, but your mod got the ol creaky wheels turning!)

No worries, I love the brain storming it helps to spur other ideas. :thumb:

Bonewagon
02-11-2013, 07:04 PM
Sweet mod. :thumb:

Al Czervik
02-11-2013, 08:14 PM
Paulie... Sorry I missed this earlier. You really are a master fabricator! :clap:

Love the build and the "chooks" look killer! :mrgreen:

Bob13
02-11-2013, 09:53 PM
A work of beauty... thanks for sharing! And I love the idea's it has spurned. Good, good shtuff!

Randbo
02-11-2013, 10:17 PM
Nicely done!

Trumpstylz
02-11-2013, 10:28 PM
That mod looks great!

The other thing I thought of that would work fine- 22 inch rebar with the last 2 inches of both end bent to 90 degrees. It will fit fine across the weber grate and will distribute the weight evenly. I would try it myself (and probably will once I get a wsm) if I didn't already have a PBC on the way.

Trumpstylz
02-11-2013, 10:30 PM
That way- no welding required if you're like me and not all that advanced as far as DIY projects.

palmtreefrb
02-12-2013, 11:20 AM
This would work, pricy though...

http://www.amazon.com/Seasoned-Cooking-Surface-Modular-Grills/dp/B004BRNUIC/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_3_02DH

Will work for bbq
02-12-2013, 12:11 PM
Here are dimensions for an 18-1/2" WSM if anyone is interested.

Bucknbacon
02-12-2013, 02:24 PM
That is crazy good! Nice job.

charrederhead
02-12-2013, 08:47 PM
Ya know what I love about this place?... Fertile minds. Throw an idea out there and immediately you have the power of the brethren mulling it over, sharing what they have already tried, and letting you know what they think might work better. Love it!

The Weber grate above reminded me that I have this: http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_507255_-1

I have used it on my performer for some time and like it a lot. If I can't hang the meat off the outer grate i can at least get some bars to lay across the hole left by the insert. Plus, its on clearance now.

Time to go shopping!

[@will work for bbq: I apologize for going off on a tangent, but your mod got the ol creaky wheels turning!)


Does the 18.5 section of that Academy grate fit an 18.5 WSM?

woodpelletsmoker
02-12-2013, 09:03 PM
great as hobby.
If turning to a business, it will be a disaster.
1.waste too much material
2.cheaper to weld by iron bar,
3.raise hanger up to takes use more space of cover

Will work for bbq
02-12-2013, 09:25 PM
great as hobby.
If turning to a business, it will be a disaster.
1.waste too much material
2.cheaper to weld by iron bar,
3.raise hanger up to takes use more space of cover

Thanks I agree, that's why I stated earlier that the one piece would cost more than having the outer ring rolled and the cross bars welded in which is how I was going to do it but I was pressed for time. With the one piece you would actually be paying for a 22" x 22" square piece of plate with more drop than finished product. I have plans to make a raised adapter to fit on this unit so I can use it to hang bacon.

caliking
02-12-2013, 10:39 PM
Does the 18.5 section of that Academy grate fit an 18.5 WSM?

Yes it does - it is designed to fit both sizes of grill. The insert alone can be used as a CI grate for an 18.5" grill and the two pieces used together fit a 22.5" grill. I returned the $80 (WTF??) CI grill sold as a BGE accessory when I realized that the insert would fit my LBGE. You don't get the pretty sear marks, but who cares?