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Q Junkie
01-18-2013, 12:36 AM
Well I was inspired by a post by wmrrock http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151731 … about an exclusively Kosher BBQ Comp that got me thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while now. I have some of the best neighbors you could ask for and we get together and cook and hang out like most neighbors do, however my next door neighbor is Jewish and is not into the pork. They are not strictly Kosher, but I have no idea what is considered acceptable that I could BBQ besides straight up beef. I know that I could just ask him, but I would like to do something unexpected for them because they deserve it. I also want for it to have a distinct BBQ “theme”.

I would love to hear some ideas that I could use for our next Q .

Militant83
01-18-2013, 12:43 AM
Not sure how legit this is but a quick google search gave me this.... http://bbqjew.com/jewbecue/recipes/ although it deals with pork

Q Junkie
01-18-2013, 12:51 AM
The pastrami is on the list but that is usually not a weekend cook.

Q Junkie
01-18-2013, 12:55 AM
Not sure how legit this is but a quick google search gave me this.... http://bbqjew.com/jewbecue/recipes/ although it deals with pork

Thanks, I will look through this.

I mean really, everyone cooked on fire 150 years ago so there must be some good recipes.

Militant83
01-18-2013, 12:59 AM
Thanks, I will look through this.

I mean really, everyone cooked on fire 150 years ago so there must be some good recipes.


You would think so :pray:

motoeric
01-18-2013, 01:22 AM
Have you thought about chicken? How about beef ribs? I love smoked turkey.

If possible, you might want to get a new grate, so the food doesn't touch anything that has touched pork.

Eric

Q Junkie
01-18-2013, 09:33 AM
Have you thought about chicken? How about beef ribs? I love smoked turkey.

If possible, you might want to get a new grate, so the food doesn't touch anything that has touched pork.

Eric

Well he is not strict Kosher, so I don't think that a separate cooking grate is necessary. I was just looking for some traditional Jewish recipes that have been adapted to a BBQ theme. I know he would be happy with beef ribs or any other traditional non-pork BBQ, but I just wanted to try something a little different.

gtr
01-18-2013, 09:47 AM
This (http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1618,142177-254195,00.html)might be a good thing to look into. It's a dish called "tzimmes" (prnounced "simmus") and it's pretty dang good and might be interesting to adapt to BBQ, as brisket is involved. I haven't tried the particular recipe in the link, but just threw it in there as a starting point.

Mdboatbum
01-18-2013, 09:53 AM
Serve calamari, sliced into rings. Then about halfway through the meal, say something like:
"Yeah, I met this guy through a friend. He's a kosher butcher or something. He gave this to me, said he always has a bunch left over from work. Said it's quite the delicacy where he comes from. Nice guy. Had a funny word for butcher, in Hebrew I guess. What was that word?.....Oh yeah, MOYLE!"
They'll LOVE that.
Or I guess you could just make a brisket. I've never met a Jew who'd turn down brisket.

dadsr4
01-18-2013, 10:13 AM
Serve calamari, sliced into rings. Then about halfway through the meal, say something like:
"Yeah, I met this guy through a friend. He's a kosher butcher or something. He gave this to me, said he always has a bunch left over from work. Said it's quite the delicacy where he comes from. Nice guy. Had a funny word for butcher, in Hebrew I guess. What was that word?.....Oh yeah, MOYLE!"
They'll LOVE that.
Or I guess you could just make a brisket. I've never met a Jew who'd turn down brisket.
Be careful. Some "calamari" being sold is cut from Pork rectum.
http://www.food24.com/News-and-Guides/Features/Pig-rectum-calamari-20130118

cameraman
01-18-2013, 10:48 AM
A lot of Jews of a certain age grew up in Conservative homes that were not kosher but who shunned pork out of habit (except for the occasional rasher of bacon.) I think it wouldn't hurt to chat them up and see what they're comfortable with. I don't think there's anything mysterious or exotic here.

Gore
01-18-2013, 11:10 AM
You really need to ask and find out how strict they are. Some Jews require separate service plates for different food items. Others are extremely liberal. After my cousin's Bar Mitzvah, the rabbi organized the reception at Dinosaur BBQ for ribs. I think it also shows consideration to ask.

tish
01-18-2013, 01:03 PM
You really need to ask and find out how strict they are. Some Jews require separate service plates for different food items. Others are extremely liberal. After my cousin's Bar Mitzvah, the rabbi organized the reception at Dinosaur BBQ for ribs. I think it also shows consideration to ask.

It shows consideration to ask if your guests have any eating restrictions. Harvard is Jewish, but avoids both pork and beef for doctor recommended health reasons. My parents don't change the main course when we come over, if their plan was to serve something other than fish or fowl. But they do make sure there are plenty of other sides that he can feast on, and he's very content with that.

Stoke&Smoke
01-18-2013, 10:41 PM
I work with a Jew who's had our brisket and loved it. And I believe it complies with what part of the animal it comes from. I doubt its strictly kosher,( I think that requires a certified kosher animal) but brisket is a common meal in many Jewish homes I believe

Bludawg
01-18-2013, 11:14 PM
To be Kosher the animal has to be certified pure and blessed by a Rabi, it also has to do with the the way it is butchered. I used to raise Kosher Beef on contract. For the record I aint jewish.

cameraman
01-18-2013, 11:45 PM
For the record I've never had brisket, smoked or otherwise, that compared to my mother's holiday brisket. Just sayin'. :thumb:

wmrrock
01-21-2013, 04:56 PM
Well I was inspired by a post by wmrrock http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151731 … about an exclusively Kosher BBQ Comp that got me thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while now. I have some of the best neighbors you could ask for and we get together and cook and hang out like most neighbors do, however my next door neighbor is Jewish and is not into the pork. They are not strictly Kosher, but I have no idea what is considered acceptable that I could BBQ besides straight up beef. I know that I could just ask him, but I would like to do something unexpected for them because they deserve it. I also want for it to have a distinct BBQ “theme”.

I would love to hear some ideas that I could use for our next Q .

I am glad that I inspired you. I do not personally keep a kosher home, and I regularly BBQ for friends that do not eat pork. There are several things that come to mind. Brisket - the whole cut, point and flat. A Butcher's cut or Hanger steak. The hanger steak was one of my first smokes. It has excellent flavor and a relatively short cook time. You may also want to try a spatchcock chicken or a turkey. If you can find it - special order - get some lamb. I love the flavor. While I have not personally smoked a lamb shoulder (Think Lamb Boston Butt) I have had it several times and it is excellent. Lastly, smoke a salmon and bring it over with some bagels and a schmear of cream cheese. They will love you for it.

MS2SB
01-21-2013, 05:11 PM
A lot of Jews of a certain age grew up in Conservative homes that were not kosher but who shunned pork out of habit (except for the occasional rasher of bacon.) I think it wouldn't hurt to chat them up and see what they're comfortable with. I don't think there's anything mysterious or exotic here.

My dad falls into this category. If I'm doing pork for dinner and he's coming over I just make sure to have some chicken or a steak ready for him.

However, if you want to learn more about what some of your neighbors favorite traditional/family recipes would make good que, I would suggest sitting down and asking. I've had many an awkward moment where somebody did something special for me based on an assumption regarding my dietary guidelines (I don't have any, but because I'm partially Jewish people assume I do.). My reaction is generally thank you for going out of your way for me, but it always makes me feel a little awkward.

So my suggestion would be to see what you could work with him on to adapt to que rather than trying to surprise him with something.