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thillin
11-30-2005, 01:40 PM
Any input on the small electric spitters?

Sawdustguy
11-30-2005, 07:11 PM
I am interested also. I am interested in something to split small logs with.

Smoker
11-30-2005, 07:52 PM
I am interested also. I am interested in something to split small logs with.

Me too

The_Kapn
11-30-2005, 07:58 PM
My neighbor bought an electric splitter.
Found that it was so limited in capacity, that an axe/maul worked as well on the small stuff. Sent it back.
Then, he ordered one of those that uses a hydraulic car jack for power.
That lasted one day and he sent it back--still easier to use a maul for stuff small enough for it to handle.

I just borrow or rent a real splitter once a year. Renting for weekend is about $75 or so and I am done for the year.

If ya get one, use Harbor Freight or someplace with a liberal return policy--just in case :-D

FWIW

TIM

qman
11-30-2005, 08:11 PM
I'm with Tim on this one. A sledge and a wedge, or a maul will do most of the small stuff, and renting a real splitter is the best way to go for the heavy duty stuff. I usually go in with a neighbor or two, and rent a splitter for the weekend, and we do a years worth of stuff.

kcpellethead
11-30-2005, 08:32 PM
I started out looking at electric splitters as well. The DR series. Then I started looking around at other answers. Looked at those hydraulic (car jack) type units. All of the advice I got was "buy a maul or a gas powered hydraulic unit," nothing in between will be work worth a darn (aka - go long or go home). I'm known for going long, but this time it just didn't seem right. Got a lot of advice on mauls as well. Landed on a Monster Maul. It's a short handled unit with a solid steel wedge at one end. Feels like it weighs 20 lbs. Used it to split a cord of pecan this fall. I've never split wood - ever. It was a little rough starting out, but once I got the hang of it, it worked well. I think I spent $30 on it. Saved me about $1,500. I have more wood then I'll use before it gets old. Oh, I felt like I was hit by a truck a couple days after using that thing for the better part of a day, but I'd do it again. Can't wait for next fall. Sorry for the ramble . . .

BBQchef33
11-30-2005, 09:30 PM
I'm with Rod on this one.. I have a splitting maul i bought in 1985. 8 lb wedge on a long ax handle. A little beat up, but it still works great, and the guys here have used it at the bash can back me up. i bought the electric splitter and exchanged it the same day for the car jack type splitter. that one still sits in my shed. its just painfully slow. Set the log and start pumping. In the amount of time it took to do one, you can 3-4 with a splitting maul. i keep it around for the really big stuff to make them a little more manageable for the maul.... or the real stubborn ones with the big nasty knots.

i gotta say, once you get into a rhythm, splitting wood on a cool afternoon is real peaceful. Ya zone out, have a little yagermeister or Courvoisier to warm the bones and its a nice escape.

Brauma
11-30-2005, 10:00 PM
Go for the exercise and swing an ax. Unless it's gum.

Neil
12-01-2005, 03:25 AM
Another vote gets cast for the splitting maul. Best way ever to work out any built up aggression.

parrothead
12-01-2005, 05:23 AM
For easier splitting, wait for the logs to freeze solid. They split way easier than they do when they are warm. Try it, or go for the splitter. It also doubles as a SPAM opener.

brdbbq
12-01-2005, 08:10 AM
Parrothead we have not had the kind of freeze since I lived here.

qman
12-01-2005, 08:22 AM
Wait till I tell my wife I have to have a bigger freezer, so I can freeze my logs before I split them:shock: FlaFo, u know8)

rbinms33
12-01-2005, 11:27 AM
I grew up splitting wood with a maul and other than using it on the occasional log for smoking wood, I have no desire to use it again. I would split hickory and oak into quarters, ash into smaller pieces for kindling and any elm we cut was always used as "backsticks". Those you put on when you had a good hot fire going that would go all day or night. Elm does not split well at all with a maul from what I remember.

Now, I have a wood burning fireplace myself so we cut and split wood each year. I will attempt to show my knowledge/ignorance of log splitters. I've never used one of the store bought ones. My buddies and I ended up with one that was home built. This thing is built like a brick chithouse.....a 19 horse Kohler engine running a 2500 psi pump with two 4" D x 36" L Industrial Tie 2500 psi cylinders. I have seen this thing bust logs that were close to 4 feet in diameter (also have the electric winch mod to keep from straining your milk picking up the big stuff).

I do remember talking to the guy that built it one time and discussing the hydraulics and stuff. Yes, pressure is important but he said most of the store bought ones don't have a high volume pump on them. He told me what this pump was rated at as far as gpm but I can't remember. Anyways, you can have a 10,000 psi pump but without the right volume to support it, you'll be all day splitting one log cause it moves so slow. I know ours has a 10 gallon tank on it and it only takes about 5 seconds to bust through a log. So, volume seems to be just as important as pressure.

Greg Kemp
12-01-2005, 12:17 PM
I just got yer basic cordless variety logsplitter.

Aloha!

Greg Kemp

Cordless log splitter (http://hawaiiguava.com/communities/004/005/299/521/images/4510575483.jpg)

Trout_man22
12-01-2005, 01:05 PM
Thats funny, good prices on the wood.

racer_81
12-01-2005, 07:08 PM
It also doubles as a SPAM opener.

Sadist.

:biggrin:

Hoorenga
12-01-2005, 07:29 PM
6# maul is my favorite. 8# a lot of work unless you are a young stud. My brother and I rented a hydraulic gas splitter once and ended up taking it back. It took twice as long to split the wood because you have to bring the wood to the spliltter as well as remove it. With a maul I can hit it where it lies or put a bunch of chunks in a row and do my windmill immitation. If I was in a wheel chair I might consider an electric splitter. Splittin' with a maul it too much fun.

racer_81
12-01-2005, 10:18 PM
6# maul is my favorite.

Here's my favorite maul. It can split anything.

The_Kapn
12-01-2005, 10:22 PM
Here's my favorite maul. It can split anything.

Trying to figure out how this is a "Q-talk" and "on-topic" post.

Silly me--he is so red he must be at about 145 degrees and just fixin' to "hang" while he tenderizes. http://bbq-brethren.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif http://bbq-brethren.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

Nevermind http://bbq-brethren.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif

TIM

racer_81
12-02-2005, 07:53 AM
However, since my favorite maul "split" in Episode 1, I use my next favorite maul.

It's an 8 lb'er. I have a metal wedge (wedge, not wedgie) that I don't use much because it's very, very dull and I'm too lazy to sharpen it.

One day, at NorthernTool, I picked up a plastic wedge out of curiousity. It seems to be that it should shatter when struck by a maul - so I am looking for a strong-back, weak-minded person to test it out.

The only powered splitter I have any input on is one my dad uses on the farm. Seems like it runs off a PTO, so that's probably not a useful comparison here.

jt
12-02-2005, 10:00 AM
I may still have access to my grandfather's 3-point splitter. He'd hook it up to the back of the tractor, pull up a chair and sit there splitting wood for a couple hours. The hydraulics from an 80 HP tractor seem to handle wood really well.

Anyone interested in buying it?

brdbbq
12-02-2005, 10:56 AM
Only if you drive it down.

rbinms33
12-02-2005, 10:58 AM
When you talked about hooking it up to a tractor, I thought you were talking about something like this:

http://www.hydrocut.co.uk/hy-crack.htm

I'm trying to drive the mental picture of a shirt sleeve getting caught on that screw out of my mind.

Trout_man22
12-02-2005, 11:15 AM
Thats cool, I wounder if CT can get one and ship it to me? We could have fun at partys reattaching each others arms and hands.

jt
12-02-2005, 11:28 AM
No, it's just like a gas powered one but it just attaches to the 3-point and splits vertically.

Mark
12-02-2005, 03:58 PM
Chances are you already got most of the gear. It's your pickup truck and whatever you use to jack it up. Here's the gist of the concept.

Jack it up in the rear and remove both tires.

Replace one wheel with a 24" circular saw blade, mounted to the brake drum by drilling holes in the saw blade so the wheel lugs project through then tighten it down with the lug nuts then lower the vehicle over the log you want to cut. Repeat process by raising and lowering truck.

Do something similar to the other wheel with the apparatus shown on the end of the tractor PTO to split all the wood you just cut and load it in the pickup bed.

Remember to properly return the tires to the truck before you attempt to leave.

Any questions?

Kevin
12-02-2005, 04:52 PM
I had an old Case tractor with one of those buzz saw rigs. Can you say "unsafe at any level of sobriety".

Hoorenga
12-02-2005, 11:38 PM
That sounds like something I bought many years ago. You jack up the rear end of your truck or car or what ever, pull one wheel off and attach a thing by way of the lug nuts that looks like a giant screw. It must weigh fourty or more pounds and is tapered from a sharp point to about six inches at the end where it is fixed to the round plate with holes that you bolt to the wheel hub. It works just like a big screw. You push a log onto the sharp end. It grabs the wood and starts to screw its way in. At some point the log starts to flip over but hits the ground as comes around. When it stops, the axel and the giant screw keep going and the log is split by the action of the giant screw penetrating it. The original kit came with a kill switch for the vehicl's motor. I guess if your car started hopping down the road with a log attached you would want to stop it before the neighbors saw it. That or you got your suspenders caught in it.

Greg Kemp
12-03-2005, 11:14 AM
Thanks! :biggrin:


Thats funny, good prices on the wood.

Mark
12-05-2005, 08:29 AM
As I stated in the chain saw thread, detonation ("det") cord is also an option. Cuts AND splits in one easy step.

BBQchef33
12-05-2005, 10:24 AM
That sounds like something I bought many years ago. You jack up the rear end of your truck or car or what ever, pull one wheel off and attach a thing by way of the lug nuts that looks like a giant screw. It must weigh fourty or more pounds and is tapered from a sharp point to about six inches at the end where it is fixed to the round plate with holes that you bolt to the wheel hub. It works just like a big screw. You push a log onto the sharp end. It grabs the wood and starts to screw its way in. At some point the log starts to flip over but hits the ground as comes around. When it stops, the axel and the giant screw keep going and the log is split by the action of the giant screw penetrating it. The original kit came with a kill switch for the vehicl's motor. I guess if your car started hopping down the road with a log attached you would want to stop it before the neighbors saw it. That or you got your suspenders caught in it.


Hoo.... I am starting to think we should take away from you anything sharper than a spoon. :eek: :wink:

tommykendall
12-05-2005, 11:17 AM
I really wanted a log splitter in MD with all that great wood I had there. I've had logs split my arse before but that's off topic.

BBQchef33
12-05-2005, 11:24 AM
Tk can't get wood in CA. :eek:

Pass it on. :rolleyes:



maybe u should try the other blue pill.