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MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 12:48 PM
She wants a well-done juicy steak and I want to try to make it for her. My dad can't get her to eat steak at all cause he thinks it can't be done. I do have my doubts but am willing to try. I am going to smoke it first and do a reverse sear. Any tips on internal temperature to get all the color out? Also, I figured that I would put hers on maybe 5-10 minutes before everyone else's. When just cooking for my family, since I like rare and my wife & kids like medium rare, I just take mine off and let it rest a couple of minutes before I sear them. I just don't know how much longer hers is going to take to cook.

Phrasty
01-15-2012, 01:03 PM
Do it like a brisket cooked tritip! :becky:

In all seriousness tho... there's very little you can probably do IMO. Best thing I could offer up is get a good steak and start with that. My gut tells me not to waste a good steak like that but a done steak is exactly that... a done steak! :crazy::wink:

Good luck! :thumb

Cheers

Gore
01-15-2012, 01:06 PM
Cook it medium rare, serve it to her by candlelight. That's always worked for me. :thumb:

MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 01:08 PM
Do it like a brisket cooked tritip! :becky:

In all seriousness tho... there's very little you can probably do IMO. Best thing I could offer up is get a good steak and start with that. My gut tells me not to waste a good steak like that but a done steak is exactly that... a done steak! :crazy::wink:

Good luck! :thumb

Cheers

Well, I already got filet's, so I was thinking cook to maybe 155 then sear? Mine's coming off at 118!

deguerre
01-15-2012, 01:09 PM
Get a steak that's more friendly taken to higher temps like a sirloin. Probably taking it to about 150 then searing will get a desirable result for her.

MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 01:09 PM
Cook it medium rare, serve it to her by candlelight. That's always worked for me. :thumb:

I would love to but they will be here in an hour... I can't make it dark enough in my house!

deguerre
01-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Well, I already got filet's, so I was thinking cook to maybe 155 then sear? Mine's coming off at 118!

You're gonna cook a tenderloin to well done? :shock:

caseydog
01-15-2012, 01:10 PM
If you start with a good, well marbled steak, you can cook it your normal way, just longer.

My ex-SIL would only eat Well done steaks. I always got a thinner cut for her, so it would cook through faster. Don't poke any holes in the meat while cooking, and give it an adequate rest, since it will be hot all the way through.

The ones I made for my SIL always came out juicy and flavorful, even though they were well done.

CD

Gore
01-15-2012, 01:11 PM
It's too bad you got filets. That is the worst thing to cook past medium rare. That'll be dry and taste like shoes. Any chance you could trade that in for a ribeye that has a lot more fat?

Gore
01-15-2012, 01:12 PM
I would love to but they will be here in an hour... I can't make it dark enough in my house!

Close the curtains. Do you have a basement that you can serve in or a large closet? Any dark place will do. :thumb:

caseydog
01-15-2012, 01:13 PM
Whoa, tenderloin is hard to cook well done, but not impossible. Good luck.

CD

landarc
01-15-2012, 01:13 PM
It is possible in several different ways. None of them easy on the grill. But, start with somthing like a coullote steak (from either the rump cap or tri-tip). You could also use a rolled boneless ribeye. The rolled ribeye will need to be tied. Apply a rub that has no black pepper at least 4, and more like 6 hours ahead, wrap in plastic wrap tightly. Refrigerate for all but last 45 minutes. It must be warmed to room temperature.

At this point, you can either sear for color and butter poach the steak, or smoke it, no smoke wood, just lump, to temperature. Take it to 145f either way. Wrap in foil to rest for 15 minutes.

You will need a choice steak, at least 3/4 inch thick. Do not use filet or strip. A flat iron could work, I don't know for sure.

Phrasty
01-15-2012, 01:16 PM
Well, I already got filet's, so I was thinking cook to maybe 155 then sear? Mine's coming off at 118!

Ok here's what you do...it's pretty straight forward really, Give her the well done filet and then if she loves it great but if she complains just give her a taste of one jof the medium ones and see what kinda reaction you get. To be honest I think a filet is not the best cut of steak to go well done with. I know it's late but next time you can try what Guerry mentioned and try a cut that might work better at well done like the sirloin. :thumb: Really hope it works out for you... Well her, I'm sure ur steak will be great! :heh::heh:

Cheers

landarc
01-15-2012, 01:20 PM
I have never understood why folks like filet. Unless cooked rare, it has a terrible texture. It's flavor is flat to me. Certainly well done it is dry. Tender, but dry.

Carbon
01-15-2012, 01:25 PM
I do carne asada to well done and they come out juicy. That's the only type of steak I have luck with to please the well done crowd. I usually pick up skirt steak from Costco for this cook.

Gore
01-15-2012, 01:26 PM
What Bob said is pretty much right on the money. When given this task, I usually take them out of the fridge an hour ahead of time at least. This is sort of like a pre-cook that raises the temp without removing any juice. Especially it raises the internal temp so that it has a lot less to cook and the interior will be much more even. I would cook at a low temp to about rare, then sear the outside. If you can't do it this way, then do a regular high-heat sear, then cut the temp to about 250-275* and let it slowly rise to about 140-145*. Take it off and let it rest covered 10 minutes. If at all possible I would get another steak though, any other.

Gore
01-15-2012, 01:31 PM
I have never understood why folks like filet. Unless cooked rare, it has a terrible texture. It's flavor is flat to me. Certainly well done it is dry. Tender, but dry.

I am so with you on that. There are a couple of things I do with filets, especially with sauces, but for a steak, I would go for anything else. I do prefer rare but will tolerate medium rare, otherwise they taste like shoe leather, and dry shoe leather at that.

MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 01:34 PM
I do have a sirloin that I bought for my kids. I want my step-mother to have the best steak I can possibly make for her as she does a whole lot to help me with my children. Should I give her the sirloin instead?

Redhot
01-15-2012, 01:35 PM
Well done steak????:shock: Tell her it's against your religion to ruin a perfectly good steak and grill her a pork chop!

Gore
01-15-2012, 01:40 PM
I do have a sirloin that I bought for my kids. I want my step-mother to have the best steak I can possibly make for her as she does a whole lot to help me with my children. Should I give her the sirloin instead?

Oh dear, this is a tough call. There is always the possibility your step-mother might really like to eat dry shoe-leather and might wonder why she is eating sirloin and the kids are eating filet. If given the choice, I would take a well-done sirloin to a filet any day, but I don't know what the impression she will have. What I would do with that sirloin though is cut it up into 2" cubes, marinate them for an hour at room temp and skewer them into kebabs. There are thousands of quick and easy marinades.

Brizz
01-15-2012, 01:45 PM
I would also be careful with salt on the pre-cooked steak. Also, you could cheat a bit and add a small pat of butter to the steak post grill.

I wonder if taking it to medium and foiling tight for a rest would allow it to cook through but conserve moisture.

I'm so lucky to be in a rare medium-rare family :-P

MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 01:46 PM
Well, I probably will give her the filet. I am sure she has eaten a few steaks in her near 50 years so she probably does enjoy dried shoe leather... Definitely no pron on this cook...

MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 01:47 PM
I would also be careful with salt on the pre-cooked steak. Also, you could cheat a bit and add a small pat of butter to the steak post grill.

I wonder if taking it to medium and foiling tight for a rest would allow it to cook through but conserve moisture.

I'm so lucky to be in a rare medium-rare family :-P

Me too! I probably won't ever have to do this again, but who knows, maybe it will be the best steak she ever had.

MIKEMAC
01-15-2012, 02:05 PM
Well, I just put hers on. I think I will put the rest of them on in about 10 minutes. I am smoking at 220 today.

captndan
01-15-2012, 03:23 PM
Sear it to medium rare then soak it in hot Au jus for a minute or two. Looks like well done tastes like medium rare. Old restaurant trick.

landarc
01-15-2012, 03:26 PM
I would like to hear how it went

BBQ Bandit
01-15-2012, 03:27 PM
Well, I just put hers on. I think I will put the rest of them on in about 10 minutes. I am smoking at 220 today.

Sounds like a job for aluminum foil and spiced beef broth.
[Going to my room now...]

The_Kapn
01-15-2012, 04:10 PM
Sear it to medium rare then soak it in hot Au jus for a minute or two. Looks like well done tastes like medium rare. Old restaurant trick.

That's what I do for Prime Rib.
Did not know it would work for steaks.

Thanks,

TIM

Al Czervik
01-15-2012, 05:33 PM
Sear it to medium rare then soak it in hot Au jus for a minute or two. Looks like well done tastes like medium rare. Old restaurant trick.

+1 on this... :thumb:

jestridge
01-15-2012, 06:19 PM
Put a heavy cast iron skillet( with lard )on you grill get it really hot , pan fried it basting with garlic butter at least it was cook on a grill. You could when it done, grill it direct for a few seconds on both side. BTW has anyone ever brine a steak

SmokinOkie
01-16-2012, 02:08 PM
One alternative would be to slice it and "cook" the slices in Au Jus to get rid of the color. Once the cut meat hits air, it starts losing color. Cook it to MR or M and then finish in the Au Jus.

I do that trick with PR to those that want it "done".

LMAJ
01-16-2012, 04:23 PM
So, how'd it turn out?
I do well done for my in-laws - reverse sear works nicely for that. Not sure how well that will work on a filet though.