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TTNuge
01-10-2012, 09:32 PM
Well after drooling over many different smokers including a few BWS Fatboys, Stumps, some clone builds and many more I decided to bite the bullet and try to build one myself. A lot of the inspiration comes from Winemaster and his clone, another BWS build I found at a different site as well as Ryan (speers90) and his build since he lives less than a mile from me and I got to see a bit of the action with his build thanks to this site.

I first started by buying my wife a Welder for Christmas. I got away with it and she actually liked it as she has mentioned an interest in welding in the past. I originally got a Hobart 140 but after some roundy round and some "advice" from my Dad who also was interested in a wire feed welder to go with his stick unit I ended up upgrading to a Hobart 190 with spool gun. I don't plan on using the spool gun for this build but I figured what the heck, why not get it anyways.

Then I made a trip to a local steel dealer and picked up a load of steel. Between the tubing and sheets it was just over 700#s so it's going to be a monster. I started with the thought of putting it on wheels but I may just end up with a dedicated trailer.... I'll figure that out later.

The unit is going to be just over 5' tall on wheels, 28" wide and 27" deep. The smoking chamber itself is going to be 48"x24"x24" with at least 5 shelves and at least 12 shelf locations. I have a 1/4" heat diffuser plate to go above the fire box and it will be set up with an intake dedicated for Stoker use.

Not much to look at right now but considering I only had a few hours, I have never welded two pieces of metal together before and I was alone I was pretty happy with my progress. I'll only get a few nights a week to work on it and I'll be losing a couple weeks the end of this month to business travel but I hope to have it done soon so I can practice and enter a few comps this spring with it.

http://images12.fotki.com/v335/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4084-vi.jpg

http://images57.fotki.com/v300/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4085-vi.jpg

Hopefully I'll have some more progress pics later this week. Also looking forward to my new Stoker w/25cfm fan to arrive, hopefully with the wi-fi code. :shock:

Thanks for looking,
Trent

Lazybones
01-10-2012, 09:38 PM
Looks good to me!....I'm planning on starting a clone build pretty soon as well. Should be a fun project!

speers90
01-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Alright!

Will work for bbq
01-11-2012, 01:53 AM
Nice start :pop2:

WineMaster
01-11-2012, 07:24 AM
Very cool. Looks good so far. Just make sure that a full size aluminum pan will fit on the racks. You wont regret that tip. Good luck. Keep us updated.

Dan

DaveMW
01-11-2012, 07:45 AM
I look at these different build threads and shake my head at my lack of talent (and guts) to try building things like this. I look forward to following your progress.

Big George's BBQ
01-11-2012, 08:41 AM
Sounds very interesting Keep posting your progress please

Cloudsmoker
01-11-2012, 08:45 AM
My thoughts exactly. Thank God for these talented dudes.

TTNuge
01-11-2012, 10:03 AM
Sitting here looking at my pics I realized I welded a cross bar on the top in the back where it should have been in the front. The one in back needs to be split for the exhaust to go up. Oh well, it can be cut to fit but I can't believe I did that and didn't realize until just now.

Reserve those "talented" comments until the end, we don't know how this is going to come out yet! :) Like I said, this is pretty much the first time I've ever picked up a welder, I've got more guts than brains I'm sure.

TTNuge
01-16-2012, 09:26 PM
Finally got a bit more time to get over and work on the smoker again. Slow going so far but that's what happens with a demanding job, a wife and three kids. And now I leave on Sunday for 2 weeks in Chicago so progress will be slow once again.

Got the two cross braces on the front of the smoker, one across the top and the lower one that will be for the top of the firebox door and the bottom of the meat compartment door. Also welded in a couple angle brackets and finally the 1/4" diffuser plate that separates the firebox from the smoke chamber. Was pretty happy with the fit and the weld, first time welding 1/4" plate and there was a lot to weld. Welds may not look professional but they'll do the job.

Front View:

http://images34.fotki.com/v1077/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4086-vi.jpg

Side View:

http://images33.fotki.com/v1186/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4088-vi.jpg

Close up of the diffuser plate:

http://images51.fotki.com/v102/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4087-vi.jpg

Thanks for looking.

Trent

speers90
01-17-2012, 01:40 PM
Looking good!

Full Draw BBQ
01-17-2012, 02:57 PM
LOVE these builds!!!!!! Thanks for posting the updates! :clap:

HB-BBQ
01-17-2012, 03:32 PM
Looks good so far. I too lack welding skills but am always intersted in these homemade smoker builds.

KingRanch450
01-17-2012, 04:26 PM
Keep posting pics of your progress. Love these build threads :thumb:

EX~DY
01-17-2012, 04:30 PM
Subscribed! Nothing like a good build thread to inspire!

bluetang
01-17-2012, 08:07 PM
Great lookin build!

morgaj1
01-17-2012, 10:24 PM
Looking good so far! If I could give you a little beginner's advice: Take the extra time and grind off the mill scale on the surfaces to be welded. You will get much better penetration and a prettier bead.

TTNuge
01-18-2012, 02:59 PM
Looking good so far! If I could give you a little beginner's advice: Take the extra time and grind off the mill scale on the surfaces to be welded. You will get much better penetration and a prettier bead.

All advice is welcome! I've been trying to clean up the pieces before I weld them but I'll admit to being spotty at it at best. And for the large 1/4" I definitely just dropped it in and started welding without giving it another thought. Thanks for the reminder.

Will work for bbq
01-18-2012, 04:58 PM
Cleaning is always good, I would only use abrasives and stay away from chemicals. Brake cleaner is a popular thing to use among gearheads to clean grease and grime from metal but if heated produces deadly gasses (http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm).

speers90
02-04-2012, 10:21 PM
Trent, how is it coming?

TTNuge
02-04-2012, 10:43 PM
Just got back from spending two weeks in Chicago so no updates lately. Plan to get over and work on it once or twice this week. I'm close to the point where I'm going to either bend the sheet for the interior or find someone close to do it. I'm hoping Storms in Victoria or Cologne will be able to do it. I'm hoping to bring the whole unit in and have them bend the interior and exterior sheeting all at once.



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cowgirl
02-04-2012, 10:49 PM
It's looking great so far! Nice work!

TTNuge
02-12-2012, 05:20 PM
Finally got a chance to spend some quality time with my build today and had a really good day. Made a lot of progress and was real happy with the fit of the panels I cut out. It's almost like I knew what I was doing.

Got the floor of the firebox welded in along with all 3 panels of the meat chamber. I still need to weld the bottom of the panels to the floor but I ran out of time. Everything was cut with Zip Wheels and while they do a great job it takes a bit of time making straight 4ft long cuts.

http://images59.fotki.com/v791/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4118-vi.jpg

Welds are getting better too I think. I really love the MIG welder, makes it so easy.

http://images55.fotki.com/v585/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4120-vi.jpg

Starting to look like a smoker almost.

http://images16.fotki.com/v368/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4117-vi.jpg

Been thinking about the firebox and have a couple ideas.

One idea is to have the firebox attached to the door and have the whole thing on sliders so it pulls out all as one piece. Would make it nice and easy for filling and cleaning and the handle would be on the outside so even when the fire has been going for hours it would be easy to slide out far enough to add more lump or whatever.

The other idea is to have a normal hinged door and a firebox separate that still is on sliders and pulls out. May be easier to build and seems like the more standard approach but I'm not sure if there are some benefits to it that I'm not thinking of or what. One advantage would be for keeping the door open while starting the fire to let it breathe, but even with the first option I think I would be fine if I just left it slid out an inch or two, that would be quite a bit of air. I'm also going to have a 25CFM Stoker fan hooked up to it so air shouldn't be a problem.

Thoughts? And thanks for looking.

Trent

speers90
02-12-2012, 05:23 PM
Glad I got stop by and take a look at it in person today!

bluetang
02-12-2012, 05:54 PM
Coming together quite nicely!

WineMaster
02-12-2012, 07:33 PM
Lookin good

morgaj1
02-12-2012, 07:57 PM
Looking good!

MStoney72
02-12-2012, 08:17 PM
That looks like it is gonna be a really nice cooker:)

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TTNuge
02-13-2012, 10:09 AM
Thanks guys.

Was good to see you yesterday Ryan.

Dan, your build is still an inspiration for this one. I assume you got your cooker sold?

cpw
02-13-2012, 10:23 AM
Been thinking about the firebox and have a couple ideas.

One idea is to have the firebox attached to the door and have the whole thing on sliders so it pulls out all as one piece. Would make it nice and easy for filling and cleaning and the handle would be on the outside so even when the fire has been going for hours it would be easy to slide out far enough to add more lump or whatever.

The other idea is to have a normal hinged door and a firebox separate that still is on sliders and pulls out. May be easier to build and seems like the more standard approach but I'm not sure if there are some benefits to it that I'm not thinking of or what. One advantage would be for keeping the door open while starting the fire to let it breathe, but even with the first option I think I would be fine if I just left it slid out an inch or two, that would be quite a bit of air. I'm also going to have a 25CFM Stoker fan hooked up to it so air shouldn't be a problem.

Thoughts? And thanks for looking.

Trent

I would think you'd want to keep the door and the firebox separate, just so you don't have to slide out the firebox every time you want to peek at the fire. I would definitely put it on rails so you can slide it out easily, and add a handle. That's one thing my backwoods doesn't have, so it's a bit of a pain to slide in and out to add charcoal or chunks of wood.

Also, you may want to check on the size of the fan for the stoker. I have a fatboy and use the 5cfm with no issue. 25cfm may be overkill.

Jaskew82
02-13-2012, 10:24 AM
Subscribed!

TTNuge
02-13-2012, 11:49 AM
I would think you'd want to keep the door and the firebox separate, just so you don't have to slide out the firebox every time you want to peek at the fire. I would definitely put it on rails so you can slide it out easily, and add a handle. That's one thing my backwoods doesn't have, so it's a bit of a pain to slide in and out to add charcoal or chunks of wood.

Also, you may want to check on the size of the fan for the stoker. I have a fatboy and use the 5cfm with no issue. 25cfm may be overkill.

Good point, I didn't take into account the times I'll just want to look at the fire. I think I'll order hinges and latches and keep them separate.

I agree that the 25CFM fan might be overkill. I'm hoping it will work but if I have to bump it down a size I'll be fine with that too. I figured with as expensive as the fans are I might as well get the big one to start instead of having to buy it later.

TTNuge
02-15-2012, 09:32 PM
Little more progress today. Got the bottom of the interior panels welded up. The smoke stack cut, fit and welded into place. And the interior top panel cut, trimmed, hammered, persuaded and finally welded into place.

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-6a47-5e15.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-6a56-8a65.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-6a63-63c6.jpg

Top it all off with a UPS delivery of the 25' roll of insulation, 25' of door gasket, and latches for both doors. I hope the hinges aren't far behind.




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speers90
02-15-2012, 09:44 PM
Welds are looking good! I can't wait to make some time and try that welder out, I will have to use a MIG on the whole hog cooker that I am planning for next winter.

TTNuge
02-15-2012, 09:58 PM
Wasn't happy with my welds tonight. Was some tricky spots welding the edges of two sheets together and had to keep adjusting the power to keep from burning through. But I got it done and it won't look half bad once finished.



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RevZiLLa
02-16-2012, 04:21 AM
I'm enjoying your build

JEC
02-16-2012, 08:24 AM
Great build, can't wait to see it finished, I even turned on Inventor today and got round to having a go at finishing my design off, I'm going for a fully folded cook chamber with built in water pan that I will have made by someone else but hope to do the rest myself

Big George's BBQ
02-16-2012, 08:58 AM
Looking good so far Looking forward to watching your progress

Bluehawg
02-16-2012, 08:58 AM
Cleaning is always good, I would only use abrasives and stay away from chemicals. Brake cleaner is a popular thing to use among gearheads to clean grease and grime from metal but if heated produces deadly gasses (http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm).
If you need it really clean, after you use flap disk on it you can either wipe it down with acetone (wife's nail polish remover:mrgreen:, without her knowing it of course) or rubbing alcohol, which I use pretty often especially if I'm going to TRY to tig weld:mrgreen:... But if I'm stickwelding or wire welding I just apply a flap disk to it breifly and then brush dust off with a clean wire brush... You can get it "too" clean for stick welding sometimes and you will know it if you do cause daggum rods will start to stick on you when you strike your arc like CRAZZZZZZY and cause you to use strong adjectives.:mrgreen:

TTNuge
02-17-2012, 10:20 AM
Thanks guys. I got over there again last night and got the two interior side walls cut and welded into place. Forgot the camera again so no pictures, not that there is much to look at. Funny how you go at it for 4 hours or so, come out drenched in sweat with a sore back because you worked your arse off and then you look and all you got done were two panels that don't look like much. Can get frustrating if you let it. On the plus side each panel was 5'x2' in size so there was about 28 feet of welding involved so it wasn't a small task by any means.

speers90
02-17-2012, 11:13 AM
4 hours at a time is about what I did! For me that is about the right amount of time, because it's long enough to get something done but not so long that you get tired of what you are doing.

TTNuge
02-20-2012, 08:12 PM
Doors are built! Got both the top and the bottom door welded together tonight. They are still rough and need grinding but the insulation is in and both the interior and exterior panels are completely attached.

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-ee94-52db.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-eeab-b4c7.jpg

Might have to order some different hinges, not sure if the 120's I got from Cottco will be big enough with the 3/4" bulb fiberglass door seal I got. Should find out soon though as I don't have much left. Need to put the outer skins on yet, rails, build the firebox, water box and the racks and we should be ready to smoke.



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speers90
02-20-2012, 08:35 PM
It's coming along!

LoneStarMojo
02-20-2012, 09:06 PM
Really lookin good....all of us 'build-heads' will be havin to find more builds to follow soon!

ClintHTX
02-20-2012, 09:12 PM
Looking good so far

Skidder
02-20-2012, 09:28 PM
Looking mighty fine there! Do you have a rough estimate on what you have budgeted $$ for this build?

Pugsley
02-20-2012, 09:29 PM
Lookin' good TT. Can't wait to see smoke coming out.
jlm

TTNuge
02-20-2012, 09:39 PM
Looking mighty fine there! Do you have a rough estimate on what you have budgeted $$ for this build?

Rough estimate would be around $1500 for all materials. And I think I overpaid for the steel but I didn't really shop around and went for convenience instead.

RevZiLLa
02-20-2012, 09:49 PM
Still looking good

TTNuge
02-24-2012, 07:23 PM
Door edges getting smoothed out....

http://images61.fotki.com/v384/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4122-vi.jpg

http://images55.fotki.com/v659/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4123-vi.jpg

Redheart
02-24-2012, 08:05 PM
Looks like some quality work going into your clone. Thanks for sharing your progress.

Triple T BBQ
02-24-2012, 08:32 PM
Looking good. Keep in mind that you can always just cut it back apart if you weld something wrong. Trust me. I know this for a fact. Do it all the time. ;> I am like Ryan. I think I need to see this one in person sometime. Pretty cool that we have three minnesota folks all doing builds right now. Cold and not enough snow for snowmobiling. Ice on the lakes is questionable. So what's a guy to do? Fire up the welder of course.

BGEMike
02-25-2012, 03:49 AM
Great build I probably shouldn't have looked but now I'm hooked. How did you come up with the dimensions for your build and what are you using for insulation? Are any drawings available or did you make your own. Thanks in advance for any help your build has inspired me.

Wampus
02-25-2012, 06:51 AM
Farkin awesome. Lookin really good so far!

I'm watchin fer sure!:thumb:

TTNuge
02-25-2012, 10:28 AM
Great build I probably shouldn't have looked but now I'm hooked. How did you come up with the dimensions for your build and what are you using for insulation? Are any drawings available or did you make your own. Thanks in advance for any help your build has inspired me.

I found a few previous builds out there that I roughly based mine on. I changed the dimensions and worked out the cuts on the sheet metal to get the most out of each sheet. I also wanted to make sure I could fit a full sized pan on the racks, it would have been nice to be able to fit 2 side by side but then it got quite a bit wider when you figure in air space between them also.

For insulation I used a roll of flexible ultra high temp ceramic insulation from McMaster-Carr. Max temp of 2000* and K-Factor of 0.65 @ 800 F.

TTNuge
02-25-2012, 07:10 PM
More progress today.

Rails and anti-tips are in. Very bottom rail is for the water pan I need to build yet but I wanted it removable/easy to slide out.

http://images55.fotki.com/v659/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4128-vi.jpg?1330214680

I only put the anti-tips on one side, do most people have them on both sides?

http://images61.fotki.com/v777/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4129-vi.jpg?1330214771

And the top panel is on.

http://images51.fotki.com/v278/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4128-vi.jpg

Also smoothed out my doors a bit more and they are good enough for me now. And I found a local guy who can bend 5' sheets of metal so I am bringing him the skin for the outside next week to get bent. Once that and the bottom are on the only things left to fabricate are charcoal box, racks and water pan. Then mount the doors and paint it up!

bluetang
02-25-2012, 08:28 PM
That is TIGHT!

speers90
02-25-2012, 08:59 PM
That is looking fantastic! I need to come see this in person again soon.

TTNuge
02-25-2012, 09:09 PM
Thanks guys.

Another question. For those of you who have built your own racks do you miter the corners of the angle iron or just cut them straight and then notch one of the pieces to get em to mate up?

speers90
02-25-2012, 09:13 PM
Cut and notch, unless you have a chop saw that can cut 45 degree angles

WineMaster
02-25-2012, 09:19 PM
I mitered mine.
Little cleaner line

TTNuge
02-27-2012, 10:16 PM
Charcoal box complete.

http://images55.fotki.com/v648/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4129-vi.jpg

http://images60.fotki.com/v662/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4130-vi.jpg

Inner dimensions are 21"x21"x6". So far my biggest disappointment at myself is the size of the firebox. For some reason it's only about 9" tall so I have a few inches under the charcoal box for ashes to fall and only about 2" above the sides until the heat deflector plate. Wish I would have added another 3" or so even if it meant dropping one of the shelves in the smoke chamber.

http://images55.fotki.com/v659/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4131-vi.jpg

speers90
02-28-2012, 01:10 AM
Nice Job!

TTNuge
02-29-2012, 05:56 PM
Nice rack(s) if I do say so myself! :grin:

Got enough expanded to do another 4 if I wanted but ran out of angle iron after 4. Definitely will be getting some more and making at least 1, probably 2 more racks..... maybe 3.

http://images55.fotki.com/v659/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4132-vi.jpg

http://images55.fotki.com/v648/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4133-vi.jpg

bluetang
02-29-2012, 06:23 PM
Lookin fine, and gettin close:clap2:

speers90
02-29-2012, 06:33 PM
Racks look fantastic! I have a little angle that you are free to have, but probably only enough for 1 shelf.

Mark M
02-29-2012, 06:45 PM
Wow, really nice job. I just read this thread for the first time. I can't believe that you never welded before you started this project. You've become an expert. I'm proud for you. Good stuff.

TTNuge
02-29-2012, 07:22 PM
Racks look fantastic! I have a little angle that you are free to have, but probably only enough for 1 shelf.

I got enough right now for 2 sides of a shelf. If I go buy another 20 footer then I would have enough for three shelves. Going to see if I need any for anything else and then go from there. Five would get the job done but it would be cool to be able to fully load it up in case I need to do a load of ribs and/or chicken. Thinking about 28 racks of spares or baby backs would probably fit at once.

TTNuge
02-29-2012, 08:25 PM
So I was thinking that once I get the door seal on my doors I'm going to take some big heavy duty tie down ratchet straps and put them around my smoker and put the doors in place and then ratchet them down tight. That should get me a nice seal and then give me the ability to weld the hinges in place with good tension on the door seal. Then on the other side I can put my latches and get them nice and tight as well. Once I get the hinges and latches in place just remove the straps and I should be good to go.

Should work shouldn't it?

speers90
02-29-2012, 08:42 PM
Another way would be to lay it down on it's back and set the door on.

TTNuge
02-29-2012, 09:07 PM
Another way would be to lay it down on it's back and set the door on.

That was my original plan but I want to get good compression of the door seal so I'm thinking the extra force from the strap might be a good idea. Just hoping I didn't overlook any negatives.

speers90
02-29-2012, 09:37 PM
Lay the straps on the floor, then lay the door on the straps. That way if you don't get enough compression you can tighten it down a little bit.

I would be concerned that you could actually get to much compression and then have a hard time latching it when the straps are off. If you compress the hinge side to much then when the straps are off, the door will want to pop open, making it difficult to get it closed and latched. My point being, I think it might be better to use as little force as possible to get the compression that you are looking for and then weld your hinge and latches on.

morgaj1
02-29-2012, 10:22 PM
I agree with laying it down.

TTNuge
03-14-2012, 10:21 PM
Been a while since I had enough progress to show an update but got a bit more time lately and am real close to finishing her up.

Outer skin all welded on

http://images17.fotki.com/v1622/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4147-vi.jpg

Intake pipe for the Stoker

http://images55.fotki.com/v659/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4148-vi.jpg

Exhaust holes drilled

http://images15.fotki.com/v588/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4149-vi.jpg

Looking like a smoker. Should be enough room..

http://images15.fotki.com/v587/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4151-vi.jpg

Hopefully doors on by the weekend and a test/seasoning burn soon. Need to get the water pan built and some paint on it, thinking of going with truck bed liner for paint.

Big Bears BBQ
03-14-2012, 10:44 PM
Pretty cool looks like a lot of work .......

ThatsWhatSheSaidBBQ
03-14-2012, 10:52 PM
Still lookin' good! Keep up the good work. I've been followin' this one from the beginning!

TTNuge
03-15-2012, 10:04 AM
Pretty cool looks like a lot of work .......

Still lookin' good! Keep up the good work. I've been followin' this one from the beginning!


Thanks guys. It has been a lot of work, probably more than I anticipated, but well worth it. I hope it cooks as well as the commercially available ones because it will be so much more satisfying having built it myself even if it doesn't look as pretty.

Randbo
03-15-2012, 10:18 AM
Looks really nice so far. I see the holes in the back for the smoke to exhaust up the smoke stack. I understand how the stoker hooks up to the pipe nipple on the side also. Maybe a stupid question but how dose the heat from the firebox get into the main chamber? I don't see any openings for that?

TTNuge
03-15-2012, 10:23 AM
Looks really nice so far. I see the holes in the back for the smoke to exhaust up the smoke stack. I understand how the stoker hooks up to the pipe nipple on the side also. Maybe a stupid question but how dose the heat from the firebox get into the main chamber? I don't see any openings for that?

It comes up through the walls. Each wall has 3 layers to it. You have the metal that makes the inside of the smoking cabinet, then a 1" air gap, another piece of sheet metal, 1" of insulation, then the outer skin. The inner metal stops a couple inches short of the top so the smoke/heat travels up the walls, comes out the top, has to drop down to the holes in the bottom, up and out.

Big George's BBQ
03-15-2012, 10:25 AM
Nice Work

Randbo
03-15-2012, 10:30 AM
It comes up through the walls. Each wall has 3 layers to it. You have the metal that makes the inside of the smoking cabinet, then a 1" air gap, another piece of sheet metal, 1" of insulation, then the outer skin. The inner metal stops a couple inches short of the top so the smoke/heat travels up the walls, comes out the top, has to drop down to the holes in the bottom, up and out.

I see it now. Thanks for clearing that up for me. So it is a vertical reverse flow smoker. Very cool.

TTNuge
03-15-2012, 04:34 PM
I need to put the fiberglass gasket on the doors tonight before I can mount them. Any advice on where I should put the seam/splice of the gasket? On a corner, bottom, side, top, etc? Don't think it will matter much but maybe there's something I'm not thinking of.

TTNuge
03-15-2012, 10:10 PM
Smoke is so close I can taste it!!!

We have doors

http://images16.fotki.com/v368/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4153-vi.jpg

Latches

http://images51.fotki.com/v278/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4154-vi.jpg

Seals up nice n tight. Not anticipating and leaks

http://images51.fotki.com/v102/photos/9/910849/10331295/IMG_4156-vi.jpg

Hoping for initial burn sometime this weekend!! I can't wait!!

bluetang
03-15-2012, 10:38 PM
What a great build!:clap: Hoping for some cook pron from ya this weekend myself!

surferdude
03-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Where did you get the latches TTNuge?

TTNuge
03-15-2012, 10:57 PM
Where did you get the latches TTNuge?

McMaster Carr. Got the insulation and door gasket there too.


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speers90
03-16-2012, 08:55 AM
I know I just saw it in person two days ago, but it looks much different with the doors on! Hope you get it fired up this weekend.

BadHorsieBBQ
03-22-2012, 06:08 PM
Awesome craftsmanship and a awesome build.

TTNuge
03-22-2012, 06:27 PM
No pron yet and when I stopped tonight my SS water pan wasn't ready so that bummed me out a bit. Guy said he'd probably get to it tomorrow but I may not be able to make it to his shop before he closes for the weekend.

Either way I plan on doing at least a seasoning smoke this weekend. Maybe I'll do a biscuit test as well. Was hoping to do some ribs or something but that can wait. Once I'm sure it's good to go I'll spend next week on cleaning, prepping and painting so it'll be ready to rock!

farklf
03-22-2012, 09:08 PM
How does the smoke get to the meat?

Tommyboy48
03-22-2012, 10:15 PM
How does the smoke get to the meat?


Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like there is about a 2 inch gap up at top/inside of the smoker, im not familiar with these but that would be my guess.

WineMaster
03-22-2012, 10:55 PM
Lookin good. I just picked up my new pit tonight. Gonna start a fire in it tomorow. Cant wait.

TTNuge
03-22-2012, 11:00 PM
How does the smoke get to the meat?

Basically it travels up through the wall. There is an inner sheet in the middle of each wall, smoke and heat travel up the inside and the outer half is insulation. Then there is a gap at the top where the smoke and heat enter, fall down over the meat, out the holes in the back/bottom and out the smoke stack. Basically a vertical reverse flow smoker.


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TTNuge
03-22-2012, 11:01 PM
Lookin good. I just picked up my new pit tonight. Gonna start a fire in it tomorow. Cant wait.

Excellent, what did you end up going with? I'm assuming you had success selling your old one?



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AustinKnight
03-22-2012, 11:23 PM
Did you insulate the enter walls of the smoker?

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TTNuge
03-23-2012, 09:54 AM
Did you insulate the enter walls of the smoker?

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All the walls, doors, top and bottom have 1" of insulation in them. The only place that doesn't is the 4" wide strip up the back where the exhaust is.

MattG
03-23-2012, 01:15 PM
Nice build. Cant wait to see it fired up.

moocow
03-23-2012, 03:04 PM
You might want to put some thin 3/4" strips of sheet metal over the flange of your gaskets to help support them. I had a few pull through in the past if the door sticks or the gasket gets a bit wet. Just a thought, other than that it looks good!

TTNuge
03-23-2012, 03:10 PM
You might want to put some thin 3/4" strips of sheet metal over the flange of your gaskets to help support them. I had a few pull through in the past if the door sticks or the gasket gets a bit wet. Just a thought, other than that it looks good!

Thanks. I thought that might be a problem. I was thinking of using washers on each screw but I have some strap metal I could use along the whole length. Might have to do that.


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TTNuge
03-24-2012, 05:37 PM
Rollin' some smoke for the first time. This was while I was getting the fire up to temp.

http://img.tapatalk.com/a69362f1-3e8f-864b.jpg

Set the stoker to 275 and overshot my temp by nearly 100 degrees. Got some learning to do but once I get it figured out i think she'll do a good job.

http://img.tapatalk.com/a69362f1-3f2b-b8a2.jpg

More to come.

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Triple T BBQ
03-24-2012, 07:00 PM
:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

Looking great! I can't wait to see it in person.

BadHorsieBBQ
03-24-2012, 09:25 PM
:clap: Your almost there.

TTNuge
03-25-2012, 04:15 PM
My main problem right now..... it's too BIG and HEAVY! Not sure how to move this thing around for comps. I can't put wheels on the bottom or else it won't fit through the door of the trailer. I have a large appliance dolly that I can strap it to and move it but I don't know if 2 people is enough to get it up and down the ramp of the trailer safely.

I really want to use this thing for comps although I wouldn't have to, there are other options. But I really WANT to, I'm jut not sure how to pull it off. I think it's pretty clear this thing is either going to end up getting mounted to a trailer permanently or it's going to sit at my house and be relegated to backyard duty. I really don't want that so I got to figure out a way to move it around.

Any ideas?

Triple T BBQ
03-25-2012, 04:30 PM
We dropped in on TTNUGE today and let me tell you the smoker looks even better in person. What a great job on this thing. Its going to serious turn out some nice pron in the coming weeks. I really like the craftsmanship on the welds and how square the unit ended up being. LIke he said, he is working on a system to move it around and get it loaded and unloaded from the trailer. It weighs about the same as a good gun safe so this is no lightweight. Looking forward to seeing you and Spears next week at comp judging class. It was a real pleasure to be able to drop by and see your setup!

TTNuge
03-27-2012, 07:27 PM
Got my water pan back. Should do the trick nicely although I did want it flanges on all four sides on top.

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-4c9b-607c.jpg

I can actually remove it from the frame and set it directly on the heat diverter plate on the bottom if I want. With the frame I can slide it in and out on its own rails.

Also picked up some square tubing and some heavy duty wheels too. Hopefully I can get them mounted up tomorrow.



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TTNuge
03-27-2012, 08:17 PM
We dropped in on TTNUGE today and let me tell you the smoker looks even better in person. What a great job on this thing. Its going to serious turn out some nice pron in the coming weeks. I really like the craftsmanship on the welds and how square the unit ended up being. LIke he said, he is working on a system to move it around and get it loaded and unloaded from the trailer. It weighs about the same as a good gun safe so this is no lightweight. Looking forward to seeing you and Spears next week at comp judging class. It was a real pleasure to be able to drop by and see your setup!

It was great meeting you and shooting the bull for a bit. Thanks for the compliments, I tried my best and when I didn't know any better I jut winged it. Hopefully the pron is good, looking forward to getting down to business. See you this weekend and hopefully many more times at comps!

speers90
03-28-2012, 01:55 PM
I know I've seen this cooker several times in person, but the dang thing looks like it is growing! I wonder how many cuss words we will have to use to get this on the trailer the first time? At least we'll know if we can get this on the trailer than my NEW Toy (which we are keeping secret for the time being) will be a piece of cake!

TTNuge
03-28-2012, 02:21 PM
I know I've seen this cooker several times in person, but the dang thing looks like it is growing! I wonder how many cuss words we will have to use to get this on the trailer the first time? At least we'll know if we can get this on the trailer than my NEW Toy (which we are keeping secret for the time being) will be a piece of cake!


I figured you were holding out on mentioning the new Toy.:clap:

Did I mention I bought a 12volt winch? I should probably just mount it permanently to my smoker because I think it will be needed to move it any and everywhere. :grin:

speers90
03-28-2012, 03:09 PM
I figured you were holding out on mentioning the new Toy.:clap:

Did I mention I bought a 12volt winch? I should probably just mount it permanently to my smoker because I think it will be needed to move it any and everywhere. :grin:

I think we are going to need to use it to get both cookers in the trailer! We may have both lost our minds :twisted:

Triple T BBQ
03-28-2012, 03:48 PM
I figured you were holding out on mentioning the new Toy.:clap:

I know nothing........:wink::wink:


Did I mention I bought a 12volt winch? I should probably just mount it permanently to my smoker because I think it will be needed to move it any and everywhere. :grin:

Now where did that idea come from? Heheh. You guys are the competition, gotta stop trying to help you out. HEHE. Its all about the brotherhood. Looking forward to hanging out with you guys this weekend. Should be fun!

PatAttack
03-28-2012, 04:30 PM
EPIC build!:hail:

Nice job my friend!:thumb:

speers90
03-28-2012, 05:33 PM
I know nothing........:wink::wink:



Now where did that idea come from? Heheh. You guys are the competition, gotta stop trying to help you out. HEHE. Its all about the brotherhood. Looking forward to hanging out with you guys this weekend. Should be fun!

Should be a fun weekend, with many more to come! Just have to keep a lid on the secret for another couple of days, it should be here on friday.

TTNuge
04-04-2012, 10:01 PM
We have a roller!!!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-fc4d-5b7b.jpg

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics but you get the idea.

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-fc78-9f52.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-fc85-6d2a.jpg

Got about 2" of clearance, still have to cut my smokestack down to about 2" and it'll be at 65.5" tall and *should* fit inside the door of the trailer. Thinking of making the smokestack detachable so it will fit but I can still run it at full height.



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speers90
04-04-2012, 10:43 PM
Looks good, maybe next weekend we should practice getting these things in the trailer!

Triple T BBQ
04-05-2012, 11:36 AM
looks great! nice job.:clap2:

mcbrew13
04-05-2012, 04:02 PM
Did I mention I bought a 12volt winch? I should probably just mount it permanently to my smoker because I think it will be needed to move it any and everywhere. :grin:

Great looking build. I have a similar issue with a 700# vertical that I need to roll in and out of the trailer. What did you end up getting for a winch? I was looking at ATV winches to mount in the front of the trailer. What's your plan?

TTNuge
04-05-2012, 04:36 PM
Great looking build. I have a similar issue with a 700# vertical that I need to roll in and out of the trailer. What did you end up getting for a winch? I was looking at ATV winches to mount in the front of the trailer. What's your plan?

I got a cheap winch at Northern tool that is rated for 2000#'s. I am still working on a way to make it more "portable" instead of having to mount it because I have at least 2 trailers I'll need to load it on. I was thinking of some sort of 1/4" plate with a clevis or heavy duty eye loop on it that I can use to attach somehow.

The other option is that I will mount it to a bar that will attach to the legs on one side of my smoker with some sort of quick release pins. That way I can detach it when not needed and don't have to worry about it getting too wet or too hot. Problem with this is that we'd also like to be able to use the winch to load up the other smoker as well.

So definitely a work in progress but the winch was like $70 on sale.

morgaj1
04-05-2012, 10:24 PM
I got a cheap winch at Northern tool that is rated for 2000#'s. I am still working on a way to make it more "portable" instead of having to mount it because I have at least 2 trailers I'll need to load it on. I was thinking of some sort of 1/4" plate with a clevis or heavy duty eye loop on it that I can use to attach somehow.

The other option is that I will mount it to a bar that will attach to the legs on one side of my smoker with some sort of quick release pins. That way I can detach it when not needed and don't have to worry about it getting too wet or too hot. Problem with this is that we'd also like to be able to use the winch to load up the other smoker as well.

So definitely a work in progress but the winch was like $70 on sale.

I don't know what your trailer situation is, but could you weld a receiver hitch on both trailers? Then mount the winch on a plate welded to a trailer receiver. That way, you could attach it to each and then remove it when not needed.

mykeystoy
04-05-2012, 11:55 PM
I like the removable stack idea. Excellent build, very cool. as for loading maybe some reinforcement for the front of the trailers using square stock and slightly larger stock with one side removed with holes in each for dowels to drop in to secure it. Weld on a plate onto large open stock mount winch and you have a quick release. I don't know maybe I am making it harder than it need be.

TTNuge
04-11-2012, 09:45 PM
It's home! Cut off the stack and sleeved it so it's removable. I'll take some better pics once I have some better light.

Birthday ribs on Friday! I got the day off so I plan on putting a full bag of Royal Oak lump in the basket and firing it up first thing in the morning. May do a biscuit test and then the ribs and then we'll see how long she'll cruise at 275 before I would need to add more charcoal. I plan on graphing the whole thing out using StokerLog.

Here she is loaded up on the trailer for the ride home.

http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-3361-3ffe.jpg


http://img.tapatalk.com/3250868a-3396-ad03.jpg

Trent



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Panthers65
04-12-2012, 11:40 AM
Very nice build, I've been wanting to build something similar to this, but on a smaller scale for home use. Looking forward to some results tomorrow!

mikeTRON
04-12-2012, 04:12 PM
I have an idea: trade me for my WSM then your loading problems are solved :thumb:

TTNuge
04-14-2012, 02:38 PM
First cook pron is posted here....

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2015285#post2015285

Trent

mykeystoy
04-14-2012, 02:44 PM
Well Done... the pit not my food please.

Contracted Cookers
04-14-2012, 06:30 PM
great build

fireman_pete
04-24-2013, 07:22 PM
I just found this thread. I am getting ready to make a BQ clone like this. What thickness tube and sheet did you use for the skin? I need to keep mine as light as possible, but still need it big enough to hold 6 full pans.

Does the 1" insulation give you enough, or do you think that 1.5 or 2 would be better?

Have any plans you can share?

THanks again, great job!

TTNuge
04-25-2013, 09:41 AM
I just found this thread. I am getting ready to make a BQ clone like this. What thickness tube and sheet did you use for the skin? I need to keep mine as light as possible, but still need it big enough to hold 6 full pans.

Does the 1" insulation give you enough, or do you think that 1.5 or 2 would be better?

Have any plans you can share?

THanks again, great job!

I used 14ga tubing and 16ga sheeting. One thing the smoker is not is light. It's a heavy beast.

The 1" insulation works but it does get pretty hot down by the firebox. Most of the smoker is warm to the touch but you can touch it. But down low by the firebox, especially in the corners it's hot and pretty much untouchable. 2" would definitely be better but 1" worked good enough for me.

fireman_pete
04-25-2013, 08:21 PM
thanks for the feedback. I am thinking of using 1.5" insulation. Also thinking of using 16 gauge on the inside, and either 18 or 20 on the outside. The firebox bottom and top would be much thicker, at least 1/8" sheet, maybe 1/4" sheet if I can find it.

My size I am looking at would be about 50" tall, 30" wide, and 24" deep (those are inside dimensions) My shelfs would be 30x24, to ensure that I can hold 2 pans per shelf. They would be spaced 4" apart.

I am looking at a firebox that is 12" high on the side, is that enough?

Also looking at not having a removable heat diverter, simply put a thick piece of sheet on the top of the firebox, than simply put a water pan right on top in the cooking chamber....

I am going to try and get my sketch turned into something I can post for feedback. Thanks!

Pete

I used 14ga tubing and 16ga sheeting. One thing the smoker is not is light. It's a heavy beast.

The 1" insulation works but it does get pretty hot down by the firebox. Most of the smoker is warm to the touch but you can touch it. But down low by the firebox, especially in the corners it's hot and pretty much untouchable. 2" would definitely be better but 1" worked good enough for me.

jgbmgb
04-25-2013, 11:05 PM
Nice job!!