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chrischandler71
09-19-2011, 06:52 AM
I have been thinking of getting a Lang in the spring, but a buddy of mine found this smoker from a guy who locally makes these. It is a 250 gallon tank..he says its 3/8 inch steel. The firebox has 2 vents, and the warmer on back has 2 racks, and he said you could use it as a grill or warmer. It has 2 smoke stacks, and its a reverse flow smoker. He said he would sell it to me for 1900.00. A comparable Lang is 3000.00. I don't mind paying for quality, but don't am always looking for a deal. Should I go this route or wait and buy the Lang?


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Pappy
09-19-2011, 06:56 AM
That has a lot of nice features. I like the $1900 feature the most. Nice looking rig.

Fatback Joe
09-19-2011, 08:50 AM
See if you can talk to a couple of people that own one and get their feedback.

Nosmo King
09-19-2011, 08:54 AM
See if you can talk to a couple of people that own one and get their feedback.

Ditto, 3/8 thick? That thing will weigh a ton. Hold heat forever though.

Ron_L
09-19-2011, 09:05 AM
I would also suggest talking to some current owners.

A couple of quick observations...

1. It's not a reverse flow like the Lang. Reverse flow will give more even temps.
2. The placement of the stacks looks odd. There are two on the main cooking chamber and two on the warmer. I would think that you would want the flow to be through the main chamber and then through the warmer. Having the stacks on the main chamber seems strange.
3. Have you tried opening the doors? There doesn't seem to be any counter weights so I'm betting that they are heavy.

cholloway
09-19-2011, 09:08 AM
Probably not a big deal, but I can see where they took some shortcuts during the build.
Only welding every 8" or so around the cook door flange for one. Should be adequate but I would have at least filled in between with JB weld or the like just for asthetics.
Also I would have mitered the flanges at the 4 corners of the door. That's just me.
"Quality is in the details"
Then again... It IS only $1900.
Check it out closely.

PS... Chris, I sent you a PM about something else

wildflower
09-19-2011, 09:54 AM
see it they have one you can take a test cook on :thumb:

qnbiker
09-19-2011, 10:36 AM
I noticed the stacks too. It claims to be a reverse flow but a reverse flow wouldn't have a stack at the the end opposite the firebox.

syndicate559
09-19-2011, 11:20 AM
I'd be very curious to hear some feedback on how it cooks. If it's good, for that price I'd probably drive out there and tow it back home!

AUradar
09-19-2011, 12:05 PM
do they have a website? I'll be interested in looking at them

Jason TQ
09-19-2011, 12:36 PM
Looks nice. Ditto on asking them to let you do a test cook. Or just get it fired up for a few hours to see how it holds temp and how even it is. I would think they would let you if they really wanted to sell it. Sometimes deals turn out to be great even if they aren't well known brands. Test cook would help tell you that.

Will32Rod
09-19-2011, 03:10 PM
Door will be very heavy with no counter weight, and that a big door at 3/8 thick.
JMHO

chibi
09-19-2011, 06:00 PM
I think that it is a reverse. The other stack maybe for the warmerbox on the end. Does it have its own firebox? I think it is worth taking a good look at it. definatly a good price.

ChicagoSizzlin
09-19-2011, 06:05 PM
do they have a website? I'll be interested in looking at them

+1 on details

PimpSmoke
09-19-2011, 06:10 PM
The welds look rough, and it is a pretty interesting design if it is a true reverse flow. Would be very curious how it holds temp and if it has any huge hot spots(not that they are bad).

jgbmgb
09-19-2011, 06:50 PM
The stack size looks aweful small for that size cook chamber. Pit calculator calls for 6" stack on a tank that size. Closing off a stack to make it a reverse flow may cause draft problems with them being so small. Be wary. Talk to several people that have these before you make up your mind. Also firebox is set kinda high on the tank end. If you have airflow problems, you have cooking problems.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oNYSV6UnT1I/TXcSI2sGN5I/AAAAAAAAFsQ/ytNo9QD8Lo0/s400/reverse%2Bflow%2Bdiagram.png

gtsum
09-19-2011, 08:54 PM
looks a bit rough around the corners, but see if you can do a test cook on it...the price sure is nice

Zin
09-19-2011, 10:46 PM
The price is not bad, i do not believe it is 3/8 steel, that little trailer could not handle the weight of 3/8 steel. Also reverse flow is pure b/s and uses 3 times the fuel of an offset smoker. You really need to go look at it in person before you decide to buy.

jgbmgb
09-20-2011, 11:26 AM
The price is not bad, i do not believe it is 3/8 steel, that little trailer could not handle the weight of 3/8 steel. Also reverse flow is pure b/s and uses 3 times the fuel of an offset smoker. You really need to go look at it in person before you decide to buy.

Where do you get your info that they use 3 times the fuel?? I think most on here that use them will tell you different.

posey's_pork_pit
09-20-2011, 12:23 PM
Chris, I would proceed with caution. There is a number listed 706-621-2118 and nothing more. Google the phone number and you will see everything from golf carts on ebay to trailers on craigslist to smokers on yakaz. All of the ads read the same "I am wholesaling these (insert-product-here) out. First Come first Served."

I am NOT passing judgement ~ just watching out for a brethren. If you are able to test drive the smoker, please let us know. Good luck!

Zin
09-20-2011, 08:50 PM
Where do you get your info that they use 3 times the fuel?? I think most on here that use them will tell you different.

My friend Felix built himself one, he is a welder. He does not like it at all, 3 hot spots also, one at the firebox, one at the far end and the plate also does not heat evenly. We have done about 3 over night cooks on it and it is a fuel hog. And i assure you he is better than any welder lang or any other pit maker has. Felix is a tested welder with Conoco Phillips, Shell Oil, Enterprise, Valero. In all honesty a big off set smoker works better than a reverse flow imo.

El Ropo
09-20-2011, 10:58 PM
Build a UDS? Sorry, someone had to say it!

Looking at efficiency, a WSM, or UDS will make your smoking life much easier. You can actually go to sleep for 6-8 hours, and the smoker is still cruising when you wake up.

daverev
09-21-2011, 05:36 AM
That smoker looks A LOT like a Beams. I've seen them sold on Ebay from 5 different people one being from Athens, one of of TN, one out of NC, one out of Florida and Beams himself. I could be wrong but all these sellers have the same darn smoker, if it isn't the same then they are all based of the same set of blueprints. The ones in this picture have so many of the exact same features as a Beams its hard for me to believe they didn't come from him.

I know what a Beams smoker looks like, there's one sitting in my driveway.

That being said, they are a decent smoker for the money spent. Lots of shortcuts are made in fabrication.

grillzilla10
09-21-2011, 07:18 AM
yea take it for a test drive

SteevieG
02-23-2012, 01:02 PM
The guy is still running the ad.

I was wondering if the OP ever got one or looked at it?

jestridge
02-23-2012, 01:51 PM
Well some of you must have good eyesight I can't see those welds all that good. Now I have seen some welds on a Lang and some of them are rough as a cob. I t looks like a pretty nice smoker. Most stick burner are fuel hogs that just the natural of the beast For 1,900 buck I would check it out.

TTNuge
02-23-2012, 02:14 PM
My friend Felix built himself one, he is a welder. He does not like it at all, 3 hot spots also, one at the firebox, one at the far end and the plate also does not heat evenly. We have done about 3 over night cooks on it and it is a fuel hog. And i assure you he is better than any welder lang or any other pit maker has. Felix is a tested welder with Conoco Phillips, Shell Oil, Enterprise, Valero. In all honesty a big off set smoker works better than a reverse flow imo.

Well three overnight cooks and a homebuilt smoker by an awesome welder obviously is enough factual information to make a blanket statement about reverse flow smokers.

NU2QN
02-23-2012, 02:16 PM
I would also suggest talking to some current owners.

A couple of quick observations...

1. It's not a reverse flow like the Lang. Reverse flow will give more even temps.
2. The placement of the stacks looks odd. There are two on the main cooking chamber and two on the warmer. I would think that you would want the flow to be through the main chamber and then through the warmer. Having the stacks on the main chamber seems strange.
3. Have you tried opening the doors? There doesn't seem to be any counter weights so I'm betting that they are heavy.

^^^^+1

The dimensions just don't look right.