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Roby
07-06-2011, 03:48 PM
Is the Brinkman smoke and grill Brinkmans version of the WSM? Looks pretty close to same and I found one for cheap.

Thanks, Roby

Johnny_Crunch
07-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Kinda, with lots of mods you can make it into a useful cooker.

Harbormaster
07-06-2011, 03:56 PM
What Johnny said.

They look kinda the same, but that's where the similarity ends.

colonel00
07-06-2011, 03:57 PM
Not really. It may look similar but they are a dime a dozen and do not perform nearly as well as the WSM. Many people have modded them and still find them usable though.

Roby
07-06-2011, 03:58 PM
What all do you need to mod? just wondering if 15 bucks is a waste or if its worth it?

Roby

hamiltont
07-06-2011, 04:00 PM
As Johnny said, with mods. But it will never match up to a WSM! Here is a link of the mods I did to an ECB. It makes great Q IMO but without the mods it's not so good... Cheers!!! http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93517

deguerre
07-06-2011, 04:05 PM
I use mine as a stand for my chimney...
But what the others have said with mods it can actually put out decent food when you learn it's needs.

bigabyte
07-06-2011, 05:33 PM
You can mod it, but even then I wouldn't compare it to a WSM. A UDS maybe...

Roby
07-06-2011, 05:41 PM
You can mod it, but even then I wouldn't compare it to a WSM. A UDS maybe...

Well that's not bad right?? lol I don't have the money for WSM so I'm going to build a USD and was just wondering if it was close since it looks real similar. I ought to make my BBQ name "Poor Boi's BBQ" :becky: I think I'll pick it up and just tinker with it and try to get her to Q decent tell im able to build my USD.

Roby

bigabyte
07-06-2011, 05:45 PM
A UDS is a great cooker. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that the way the Brinkmann comes is similar to just having a drum. You have basically just a barrel that you ahve to mod to make it a cooker. I would actually rate a UDS higher than the Brinkmann too. Even modded.

To break it down really, you can buy an ECB (El Cheapo Brinkman) for maybe 30-40 bucks on sale, and then make a bunch of mods to it, buying additional parts. Or, you can start with a drum for either free or maybe as high as 25 bucks, then make mods to it and buy additional arts. That's how they are similar, and in the end they are either a similar price or the ECB is a bit more pricey than the UDS. The UDS is a lot bigger. So the UDS is better. The WSM is ready to go right out of the box, no mods necessary. Design-wise, a modded ECB kinda resembles a WSM, but so does a UDS.

If I had to work that hard to "make" a smoker, I would build a UDS, no question.

Carbon
07-06-2011, 05:54 PM
For $15 I'd grab it. With my last vent mod I was able to run my ECB at 250F for 10 hours on a single chimney.

stanimals2
07-06-2011, 06:43 PM
They tend to get bashed on here from time to time but I have one that I started with and honestly they are a very good starter setup for the price and yes you can cook some great food on them. Its just like ant thing else practice makes perfect, I still use mine if I have a big cook and have the hillbilly cooker full. I say grab it !!

ksmoker
07-06-2011, 07:36 PM
Don't let these guys get you down, there is a big WSM and UDS fan base on here. We all start somewhere and the ECB aka Brinkman Smoke and Grill is where I started. I had one way before anyone thought of mod'ing it. It, without any mods, will work just fine and produce very fine BBQ. For the price, you cant go wrong. You are correct, they are very similar in design, however the WSM is a better version of the design and is better quality. The Brinkman does not seal at the top where the lid meets the main body, which lets out some heat and smoke, making it it less efficent but still works none the less. The ECB also does not have a damper on the bottom of the charcoal bowl.

So to properly answer your question.... Aside from those 2 differences and maybe quality of parts used, yes, the design is indeed similar and will still produce good food.

Roby
07-06-2011, 07:56 PM
Thank's for all the info guy's! I totaly agree that a UDS would be an awesome smoker and I intend on building one in the near future. The CL ad had been on since may 27th, so there's no way he still has it right? Well I called him anyways and he still had it so i met up with him, looked it over and snatched it for 15 bucks:-D Used once and put away since then for 2 years the guy said so it's super clean. Well got it home and it looked like a plain old smoke 'n grill
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee410/Roby02/Before.jpg
There she is:-P Than 2 min of my time and a lil cheapy bbq i had sittin around and i got an ECBWSM (El cheapo brinkmann weber smokey mountain) lol
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee410/Roby02/After.jpg
Boom, I think it will smoke now!

Tell me what you think.

Roby

bigabyte
07-06-2011, 08:44 PM
I see no reason that shouldn't be able to work. You might want to fashion a charcoal ring, maybe even put it on a grate raised up from the bottom vent. I think it's farkin' genius!:cool: And here I was telling you not to do it.:doh:

Carbon
07-06-2011, 09:44 PM
The Brinkman does not seal at the top where the lid meets the main body, which lets out some heat and smoke, making it it less efficent but still works none the less. The ECB also does not have a damper on the bottom of the charcoal bowl. Those are just part of the essential mods which can easily turn the ECB into a great little smoker.

Roby
07-07-2011, 12:57 AM
I see no reason that shouldn't be able to work. You might want to fashion a charcoal ring, maybe even put it on a grate raised up from the bottom vent. I think it's farkin' genius!:cool: And here I was telling you not to do it.:doh:

I was thinking on putting the charcoal ring on the old cooking surface of my small lil kettle which would give room underneath for the ash's to fall away easily and than drill my air intakes and I should be ready to rock:-D

Thank's for the help everybody, It's very appreciated.

Roby

RevZiLLa
07-07-2011, 01:13 AM
That's thinking out of the box right there. Way to go!

hamiltont
07-07-2011, 10:32 AM
There she is:-P Then 2 min of my time and a lil cheapy bbq i had sittin around and i got an ECBWSM (El cheapo brinkmann weber smokey mountain) lol
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee410/Roby02/After.jpg
Boom, I think it will smoke now!

Tell me what you think.

Roby

Brilliant! Let's see some more pics when you take it for a test drive. Cheers!!!

TWQQ
07-07-2011, 10:57 AM
I'm new to the school of 'Q, and I have myself a lovely Brinkmann Smoke'N Grill. I recommend doing the basic mods, and so far mine has been working well...

Roby
07-07-2011, 02:43 PM
Brilliant! Let's see some more pics when you take it for a test drive. Cheers!!!

Will do:thumb:

Roby

Saucit
07-07-2011, 03:23 PM
Haven't made it over to this forum in far too long, startin' a family is busy work! 3 years ago I started smoked bbq and got many mod suggestions from the helpful folks here at BBQ Brethren. I already had a mini weber charcoal grill for tailgaiting that I used for my pit, works great once the ECB supports are moved to the outside. Now I just set the ECB supports on bricks to elevate it a bit off of the weber pit. Makes for very easy refueling too as all I need to do is (carefully) lift the ECB off the pit, refill the pit with the chim smoker, and set the ECB back onto the bricks. (if you use the water pan be careful to keep the ECB level when moving it or you'll dump water into your coals). Other helpful suggestions from the forum included drilling out top vent holes and fashioning a make-shift vent cover to control airflow, the weber pit has vents on the bottom of it already. I also drilled in a side hole the size of a cork, stuffed the cork in and drilled a narrow hole to fit a thermometer right below the level of top grate (cork will need replacing every few cooks). Biggest challenges I've had w/ ECB are: it has thin metal walls so it's best to use on nice warm day with low wind, otherwise it can struggle to maintain temp, and at times the temp does not seem to stay as consistent as what I hear WSM can do so I usually visit it every so often and adjust vents and fuel as needed.

Once I had it modified I relied on some good smoked bbq cookbooks/history of bbq books to get me started. I have a small collection now, lol, but "Serious Barbeque" by Adam Perry Lang is probably the one I use the most for recipes and preps if I have time (his stuff gets pretty involved) but when I put in the time I'm usually very pleased with the results and never have leftovers. The ECB may not be the most convenient, but for the price and a few mods, I've been happy with it. It's great to fun to create food in your backyard on a $40 cooker that can blow away (or at least compete with--depending on your region--) local restaurant bbq!

Hope that helps, enjoy your modified ECB!

speedrcer1
07-07-2011, 03:35 PM
Rody,
I'm a big fan of starting "cheap" and if I like, moving up.
My original Brinkman had an open bottom and really no real temp control. The new ones are much better.
Try it out. If you get hooked, find a Weber Kettle on CL. If you like that get a WSM and so on. Keep everything covered and sell it for what you bought it for.
Or, just clog up your backyard.. Like me! :heh:
Best of luck!

Roby
07-07-2011, 03:54 PM
Haven't made it over to this forum in far too long, startin' a family is busy work! 3 years ago I started smoked bbq and got many mod suggestions from the helpful folks here at BBQ Brethren. I already had a mini weber charcoal grill for tailgaiting that I used for my pit, works great once the ECB supports are moved to the outside. Now I just set the ECB supports on bricks to elevate it a bit off of the weber pit. Makes for very easy refueling too as all I need to do is (carefully) lift the ECB off the pit, refill the pit with the chim smoker, and set the ECB back onto the bricks. (if you use the water pan be careful to keep the ECB level when moving it or you'll dump water into your coals). Other helpful suggestions from the forum included drilling out top vent holes and fashioning a make-shift vent cover to control airflow, the weber pit has vents on the bottom of it already. I also drilled in a side hole the size of a cork, stuffed the cork in and drilled a narrow hole to fit a thermometer right below the level of top grate (cork will need replacing every few cooks). Biggest challenges I've had w/ ECB are: it has thin metal walls so it's best to use on nice warm day with low wind, otherwise it can struggle to maintain temp, and at times the temp does not seem to stay as consistent as what I hear WSM can do so I usually visit it every so often and adjust vents and fuel as needed.

Once I had it modified I relied on some good smoked bbq cookbooks/history of bbq books to get me started. I have a small collection now, lol, but "Serious Barbeque" by Adam Perry Lang is probably the one I use the most for recipes and preps if I have time (his stuff gets pretty involved) but when I put in the time I'm usually very pleased with the results and never have leftovers. The ECB may not be the most convenient, but for the price and a few mods, I've been happy with it. It's great to fun to create food in your backyard on a $40 cooker that can blow away (or at least compete with--depending on your region--) local restaurant bbq!

Hope that helps, enjoy your modified ECB!

Thank's for all the info Saucit! I'm mounting the ECB on my kettle real similiar to you. I'll have to look into getting that book "Serious BBQ".

Thank's again:thumb:

Roby

Roby
07-07-2011, 03:56 PM
Or, just clog up your backyard.. Like me! :heh:

That's my plan:becky:

Roby