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AUradar
07-05-2011, 02:50 PM
I've been looking around for a larger smoker and have found some converted propane tank smokers. But I really don't know what a fair price would be. I know, i know, what ever you are willing to pay, but I just wanted some more insight.

What would you expect to pay for say a new 150 gallon propane tank converted to a smoker, big firebox, on a nice trailer with springs? What about a used one?

thanks

Pyle's BBQ
07-05-2011, 05:01 PM
What is the size of the racks that are in the smoker? Do you have pictures?

AUradar
07-05-2011, 05:46 PM
one layer of racks. normal flow (not reverse) Just a question in general. I know its hard to answer because of details. I'm just wondering a ball park.

$500?
$1000?
$1500?
$2000?

bbqbull
07-05-2011, 05:51 PM
Pictures would be a big help if you can get them.
I bought my Klose mobile pit in 2002..?
Dave Klose told me steel has gone up 3 times since my purchase.

Midnight Smoke
07-05-2011, 05:57 PM
There are way too many variables. Quality of steel, workmanship and design. The trailer itself is a varied as the cooker. If you want to post some pictures of what you are looking at you will get more responses.

Shinka
07-05-2011, 05:59 PM
Dave Klose wants just about $1,500.00 to mount any of his (48" or so) units to a basic trailer. So that's just to mount to a trailer.

Search the web and find something that fits your needs.

Lang's come in at a good price but that's reverse flow.

I went with Meadow Creek because they had more of what I was looking for (but again a reverse flow unit).

It's a hard question to answer with little details.

Best of luck with your quest.

jestridge
07-05-2011, 06:12 PM
1,500 isn't all that bad for a trailer.

AUradar
07-05-2011, 06:21 PM
heres the latest one I looked at. the cooking chamber looks heavy (its a propane tank). I think the grates on this one are 22x34, two of them, one layer. He does have grates below so you could use it as a grill. THe fire box was larger, but I think 1/8" steel.

Of the ones I've looked at, this one has the nicest trailer. This one is brand new. But I've seen several used ones of the same type.


http://images.craigslist.org/3k33m73o65Y35T35U2b7115c6dbb59e801e68.jpg

chad
07-05-2011, 07:32 PM
A lot depends on your budget. Nature abhors a vacuum and finances abhor left over money!

I spent about $4500 or so on my Kingfisher and had it drop shipped to FL from OK. I have been very pleased and thought it was a fair price. I wasn't going for cheap. I was going for features I wanted.

Things have changed since 2005: now I'd go for #1 - Insulated. Everything else would be details. I like the multiplier of the rotisserie so rigs like Myron's new competition rig or Southern Pride 250 or FEC large cooker would get a serious look. I could be tempted by shiny objects, too, rigs like one of Jay's would get consideration. Sure glad I don't have to make that decision now. :mrgreen:

Smokin Turkey
07-06-2011, 12:15 PM
I would stay away from a pit of that size with a firebox made of 1/8" steel. Warping is way too much of a factor if it's not properly braced and gusseted. If it's a professional builder who will stand behind it then if the price is right it could be a way to go but if its a backyard build, I'd keep looking. If it's new then it's untested and I know from the first few pits I built, you don't start to see the things that happen to a pit until it's been heated. Look for strong firebox doors with plenty of bracing. That is where I had most of my problems once the pit gets hot. As far as insulation, it's not hard to do yourself. I added firebricks to the inside of my firebox which made a HUGE difference in the amount of fuel needed as well as how unbearable it is to stand next to when it's 90F+ out.

Check gaps on the main pit door for fit and finish. Those round tank doors are hard to tweak if they don't fit right. (once the door is cut, the door has a tendency to spring out making it not fit the old radius.)

Just a couple things to think about. If you are a fabricator or have access to some tools and don't mind tinkering, go for the cheap ones... Otherwise, treat it like a used car and look at EVERYTHING. repairs and tweaks at a metal shop will get expensive!

AUradar
07-06-2011, 12:39 PM
just doing some more figuring. I feel like a have to have a large smoker. But the more I look the less I think it'll do what I want.

that smoker I just pictured costs $1,100 new. Its from some people who build them, but its also a trailer builder making smokers. I don't see the things on it like I do a Lang, for example. Basically, its not a smoker builder.

It has two 22"x34" racks. I can build two UDS (already have one) with two racks each and have the same amount of cooking area. Granted the UDS would be more combersome to access the racks.

I like the idea of getting into using only logs for the source. But at the same time I'm looking into the iQue for my UDS so I don't have to sit there and tend the fire. So if I'm not willing to tend the fire on a UDS, i'm not going to be excited about doing it on a stick burner.

I guess I just ought to wait a bit

Smokin Turkey
07-06-2011, 12:54 PM
My stick burner with the firebrick and a 3 sided basket to shovel in coals, I can run 2-3 hours (just did it over the 4rth) without adding fuel. Running only wood is something i'd like to do but you need a small hot fire burning nearly completely clean to not overpower with the smokey flavor.

syndicate559
07-06-2011, 01:11 PM
If that trailer is $1100 brand new, I'd be really tempted to buy it. You could have a better fire box fabbed and make other mods that you felt necessary and still come out way under what most trailer mounted smokers that size would cost. You could even re-do it and have it to have double racks. That seems really inexpensive to me and the trailer by itself is probably worth that much if it's a good one.

AUradar
07-06-2011, 01:58 PM
yea, now I'm thinking about how I would make two UDS protable. And then rig up a large grill to use as well. I would come close to a grand trying to do all that in piece parts.

Smokin Turkey
07-06-2011, 03:32 PM
Just posted a message on the "mayhem" guy's facebook page from the Allstate commercials and I thought of you...

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/hccllc2008/Capture2.jpg

AUradar
07-06-2011, 08:22 PM
thanks turkey, that is so me. lmao

Whats bad is we had a Dave Ramsey Fincial Peace University class meeting tonight. boy, what a buzz kill.

watertowerbbq
07-06-2011, 09:18 PM
Dave Klose told me steel has gone up 3 times since my purchase.
At least 3 times and some of them have been big increases

WaywardSon
07-10-2011, 10:52 PM
I drove to Florida a couple of months ago and bought this cooker for $500...it is a 500 gal. propane tank mounted on a heavily built trailer. It was supposed to have been built as a competition cooker for Memphis in May and is basically a large grill. I've yet to find anyone who understands how to cook on it as there is really no way to supply it with coals. So...I am in the process of having it modified. Here is how it looked when I got it home:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj68/WaywardSon01/Food/Up%20In%20Smoke/IMG_2531.jpg

That is the backside & those two doors are the only access to the firebox. Maybe someone on here understands this plan. I don't.

Front of the cooker...the two doors are being made into one.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj68/WaywardSon01/Food/Up%20In%20Smoke/IMG_2528.jpg

The tongue will be extended to make room for a wood burner to generate coals, as well as a place to store wood and mount a two burner propane cooker.

The back:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj68/WaywardSon01/Food/Up%20In%20Smoke/IMG_2533.jpg

The box was used for storage and will be gone. We are going to cut into the end of the tank and put a warming oven in it's place. The mods are just starting to get underway & I need to get pics of the build as it progresses. I'll be glad to share them here if there is any interest. Suggestions are also welcome:-)

I have been told that steel has come down lately. All I know is that I bought a sheet of 1/4" ($200) and a sheet of 3/8" ($300) a couple of days ago for this project. I hope that is the end of it for materials as the toy fund is getting low and the wife wants to go on vacation:help:

righteousdog
07-11-2011, 02:32 PM
That is the backside & those two doors are the only access to the firebox. Maybe someone on here understands this plan. I don't.


Rented a 250 fuel drum pig roaster once that had that style door on the front. Had to dump fuel in that way.

Not real user friendly as it was small like that, but it still made a tasty swine.

Good luck have fun on your mods

Mitch
07-11-2011, 05:48 PM
How much is a car worth? It depends.

Lake Dogs
07-11-2011, 07:49 PM
I was in your situation a few years ago. Honestly, over the many years, I've come to appreciate what value brings. By this I'd rather pay the few extra dollars and get something that'll last a long time and frankly perform up to my rather high expectations. With that I highly recommend purchasing from someone who builds smokers, competition smokers, and has had LOTS of success. Look to Lang, Bubba Grills, Yoder, etc. For me, I prefer the performance of reverse flow. I'm not here to sell you on it, just that I wouldn't have it any different.

I found a used Lang that's basically an early model 84. It needed a massive clean-up, but that was it. I paid $1600 for it and had to drive 4 hours each way to retrieve it. It was worth every penny. I've not been disappointed.

WaywardSon
07-12-2011, 09:47 AM
I was in your situation a few years ago. Honestly, over the many years, I've come to appreciate what value brings. By this I'd rather pay the few extra dollars and get something that'll last a long time and frankly perform up to my rather high expectations. With that I highly recommend purchasing from someone who builds smokers, competition smokers, and has had LOTS of success. Look to Lang, Bubba Grills, Yoder, etc. For me, I prefer the performance of reverse flow. I'm not here to sell you on it, just that I wouldn't have it any different.

I found a used Lang that's basically an early model 84. It needed a massive clean-up, but that was it. I paid $1600 for it and had to drive 4 hours each way to retrieve it. It was worth every penny. I've not been disappointed.

Assuming you are talking to me:-) I understand what you are saying and agree with you. One of the reasons I bought the concession trailer in the background was the two Cookshack smokers installed on it. I have another smoker on a trailer as well as access to several through the competition team that I cook with. I just like fooling with these things. This one will not be cheap by the time I am done, but it will for sure be heavy duty.

Reverse flow cookers are scarce around here. I've never seen one in use or had the opportunity to cook on one. That said, it was my original intent to make this a reverse flow...we just couldn't find enough info on the design for a tank this big to get comfortable with it. I have a lot of faith in the guy doing the mods. He is talented and has built a bunch of cookers. I am looking forward to cooking on it when he is done.

BTW...if the OP considers my ramblings here a hijack, please speak up & I will start a new thread.

Lake Dogs
07-12-2011, 09:55 AM
Assuming you are talking to me:-) I understand what you are saying and agree with you. One of the reasons I bought the concession trailer in the background was the two Cookshack smokers installed on it. I have another smoker on a trailer as well as access to several through the competition team that I cook with. I just like fooling with these things. This one will not be cheap by the time I am done, but it will for sure be heavy duty.

Reverse flow cookers are scarce around here. I've never seen one in use or had the opportunity to cook on one. That said, it was my original intent to make this a reverse flow...we just couldn't find enough info on the design for a tank this big to get comfortable with it. I have a lot of faith in the guy doing the mods. He is talented and has built a bunch of cookers. I am looking forward to cooking on it when he is done.

BTW...if the OP considers my ramblings here a hijack, please speak up & I will start a new thread.

I was trying to respond to AUradar.

However, for $500 that looks like a good starter to modify. That fire box, IMHO, probably should be completely re-worked (ala. tossed and build a new one). The reverse flow is simply a full length baffle (with about a foot open on the side away from the fire box). Lang does a V channel in the center that goes to the drain pipe. I'm not certain what the others do... Then, as there's only 1 smoke stack/pipe, they're larger around than the two you have... Otherwise, what you'll end up with is very similar to Bubba Grills' 500R. These things ROCK.