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BBQchef33
12-28-2004, 12:38 PM
Anyone know where and how to get the Wild/Fresh/Not farmed Salmon. All we get around here is pale farmed stuff either at costco or even the fish markets. Also.. any insight into the differences, besides the antibiotic issues.

Trout_man22
12-28-2004, 01:04 PM
Phil,

No joking I fish for them. But the farmed fish have a lot things going for it.

1) Known water condition
2) Known chemicals (different then toxins as defined by the EPA)
3) Known Toxins (at leats we hope)
4) Set price (it might cost me $10 one week or $50 the next week to catch a salmon)
5) You don't have to take you brother-in-law with you.

As far as antibiotic issues I have not seen a study between frarm raised and wild but I will check with TU and see what they say. I have see a study between canned and fresh salmon and canned and fresh tunna, were as the canned verison did not offer the same benifits as the fresh fish did. But that study had several misstaks in it and from what I gather the cannd fish people what us to forget that it was ever published.

Trout

jminion
12-28-2004, 02:09 PM
We have wild salmon for sale out here year around but I have no ideas on the other coast.

Trout
Farm raised salmon it is recommend that you don't eat more than once a month because the pens are kept in spots where there is much less current so toxin in the fish is higher than wild. Farm raised is not close in quality to wild, fat levels are lower, the flesh has no where near as good when comes to texture.

We have both out here in Seattle and farmed is cheaper but I still get wild, the difference between select or lower grade beef to Prime.

Trout_man22
12-28-2004, 03:17 PM
Jim,

I agree to the with you about the quility, however it the farm is keeping up with their required water changes to mantain the FDA certifcation and the more important SFA (salmon farmer seal) then the toxin levels should be lower then many of the the wild salmon. But if the farmers are not keeping up with the water changes to save money then......It is getting better for them but we are still several years away from having a steady supply of wild low toxin, salmon.

In the North West you do have a great advantage to us in th east. Years of consevation has given you a wounderful bounty of fish, even the Japan has curtelled the overfishing of the Pacific rim. However, in the east we can not bring ourselvs to stop over fishing the Chesapeake bay let alone an ocean.

brdbbq
12-28-2004, 03:39 PM
Euell Gibbons Mod

jminion
12-28-2004, 04:12 PM
Trout
I will admit that the information I stated is based on the west coast fishery.

BBQchef33
12-28-2004, 08:00 PM
ok. so on your next trip to the fish market or river, whichever comes first, which of u ladies is gonna pack a few wild salmon and ship it fedex overnight. I'll send fedex account and cash. :) 8) :wink:

Solidkick
12-28-2004, 08:50 PM
Would you settle for a catfish from BBII's lake?

jminion
12-28-2004, 09:08 PM
I just may be in Seattle at Pike Place Market if I can get up there it's coming your way.

Trout_man22
12-28-2004, 09:09 PM
Phil,

Next time I find wild salmon at a good price(or catch it) I'll drive it to the NJ turnpike and you can pick it up.

brdbbq
12-28-2004, 09:46 PM
Would you settle for a catfish from BBII's lake?

That's funny but I like catfish.

Trout_man22
12-28-2004, 10:17 PM
I like catfish better then salmon, but only if it's from a small lake or a farm. :lol:

Bigmista
12-28-2004, 10:37 PM
I like em both but cookd different ways. Catfish has to be fried. No other civilized way to eat it. Salmon, however, can fixed a myriad of ways including smoked. Tonight me and MrsMista are going to have it poached in wine with dill. Yum!!

Trout_man22
12-28-2004, 10:39 PM
I just may be in Seattle at Pike Place Market if I can get up there it's coming your way.

Best salmon I ever bought was from Pike in the mid 80's I think, hell they have the best fish in the country if not the world, great Farmers market if my brain is still working.

Neil
12-28-2004, 11:16 PM
Phil, next summer get over to the middle coast and we'll go out on Lake Michigan for some King's and Skamania. My best friend has a 38' Four Winds fishing machine. Nothing better than throwing fresh caught salmon on the Weber.

BBQchef33
12-29-2004, 12:06 AM
Honestly, I aint big on fish, but salmon is the only (non shellfish) I like. The wife however loves the stuff. We usually get the big filet from Costco, but now Sharons been hearing all this dribble about antibiotics and toxins in the farm raised stuff. I never had wild salmon and heard the brothers here mentioning it. I've gone to all the local markets and they dont get wild salmon very often arounf here. Was considering a trip into NYC to South Street Seaport to see if i can get it there. But if Jim can get the real thing in seattle, and from what i've heard its the best in the world... Ill take him up on that and send him some Brooklyn Pizza... :)



ok......
Lets not get into the comparing a Brooklynn pizza to that Chicago stuff they feel like calling pizza.

Neil
12-29-2004, 12:41 AM
Best pizza anywhere, and I've had it from Chicago, New York, Baltimore, and out of my own oven; the best is from Columbo's in Elkhart, IN. Great little restaraunt owned by an Italian imigrant, Giuseppie Siciliano from Calabria, Italy. His 80+ year old mother does most of the cooking!

tommykendall
12-29-2004, 12:42 AM
Honestly, I aint big on fish, but salmon is the only (non shellfish) I like.


You need to get out west Mary. There's a ton of outstanding fish here. I just saw wild salmon fillets on sale for $2.99#

racer_81
12-29-2004, 08:27 AM
Pizza was invented in Illinois. So was wild salmon.

jt
12-29-2004, 08:39 AM
Would you settle for a catfish from BBII's lake?

MOFO fishing & que party!

Trout_man22
12-29-2004, 09:00 AM
Pizza was invented in Illinois. So was wild salmon.

LMFAO

stan
12-29-2004, 09:43 AM
Phil - I have a friend who is up on all the Farm Raised salmon and he will not eat the stuff normally. I also have another friend who went to Alaska last year and came back with over 200#s of salmon that he caught on a week long trip. I must say it is much better tasting than the farm raised stuff. Great brined and smoked at a low temp with applewood. Good luck! Stan

racer_81
12-29-2004, 11:59 AM
Well. There's your answer Phil.

A fishing "road trip" to Alaska.

kcquer
12-29-2004, 12:34 PM
Alaska last year and came back with over 200#s of salmon

If you get in a run there's nothing like it. I spent 2 spring fishing seasons in AK, best fishin' I ever did.
Good ol' farm pond large mouth ain't a bad second.

tommykendall
12-29-2004, 04:32 PM
Well. There's your answer Phil.

A fishing "road trip" to Alaska.

Or Phil - you can go on a local trip with me...

brdbbq
12-29-2004, 04:59 PM
I have a fish story but I don't think this is the right forum, sure was "Wild" though.

cayenne
12-29-2004, 05:31 PM
I like em both but cookd different ways. Catfish has to be fried. No other civilized way to eat it. Salmon, however, can fixed a myriad of ways including smoked. Tonight me and MrsMista are going to have it poached in wine with dill. Yum!!

I used to think along the same lines, but, I've had it a LOT of ways recently that are fantastic (catfish).
1. Catfish coubillion - A southern lousiana stew/etoufee type dish.
2. Blackened - I've done a variation on this...coated them with Tony Chacherie's creole seasoning and a little chile powder. Heated charcoal grill redhot, with one of those grill things for veggies and meat...has small holes, but, stuff won't go through). Sear meat on both sides, cooks quick, so don't over do. I take this off, and grill up some veggies like onions and red bell peppers that are marinated in simple vinegarette). Serve like you would a typical soft taco...add meat, veggies, salsa..sour cream...etc.
3. Smoked - I took whole small catfish I caught one, cleaned them, and threw them whole, skins and all on smoker. Cooked till very tender. Scraped out meat, mixed with cream cheese, sourcream, and some capers. Good on bread points, trisket crackers....etc.
4. Broiled - either simply seasoned, or stuffed with crabmeat/crawfish stuffing...etc.

Anyway...back onto start of thread. I think all the salmon we get down here in NOLA is wild? Never seen a pale looking piece of salmon down here that I know of...it always says where it is from on the label usually. I only get it when really on sale, as that I try to stick with fish that are more native to the Gulf, and hence fresher.

cayenne

JacksonsDad
12-29-2004, 06:05 PM
A buddy of mine goes every couple of years to Alaska...I'll have to put my order in now! Of course, Alaska to Texas, yer pretty much freezin' the darned things anyway!

racer_81
12-30-2004, 12:01 AM
Well. There's your answer Phil.

A fishing "road trip" to Alaska.

Or Phil - you can go on a local trip with me...

Say, Tommy. Ain't that a "Hooker" boat there in that pic?

tommykendall
12-30-2004, 12:14 AM
Say, Tommy. Ain't that a "Hooker" boat there in that pic?


TK and Jimbo's floatin hooker house