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Ashmont
02-03-2011, 01:24 PM
This will prolly be answered by our UK Brethren but here goes. I have been looking at trying a Crumpet recipe from a family cook book. You say what does this have to do with BBQ well technically it doesn't but is going to be used as a dessert for a small BBQ dinner I been asked to cook. I want it to stick out as a dessert but don't want them to think they are pancakes. I was going to make small ones and drape some melted chocolate and some berries on top. That or I will make some crepes! The customer is insisting a unique dessert and not ice cream ect. I will be serving pulled pork, stuffed Yorkshire pudding, grilled asparagus. White wine, water, coffee hot tea/ Cold tea! (No Soda per her request) I do need to let you know that this lady is severely eclectic (Farkin nuts!) but is a referral from a previos customer that I will thank when this is over. I have been trying to steer her to more traditional fare but I am have very little luck. Thanks for listening.

Sterling
02-03-2011, 02:32 PM
This will prolly be answered by our UK Brethren but here goes. I have been looking at trying a Crumpet recipe from a family cook book. You say what does this have to do with BBQ well technically it doesn't but is going to be used as a dessert for a small BBQ dinner I been asked to cook. I want it to stick out as a dessert but don't want them to think they are pancakes. I was going to make small ones and drape some melted chocolate and some berries on top. That or I will make some crepes! The customer is insisting a unique dessert and not ice cream ect. I will be serving pulled pork, stuffed Yorkshire pudding, grilled asparagus. White wine, water, coffee hot tea/ Cold tea! (No Soda per her request) I do need to let you know that this lady is severely eclectic (Farkin nuts!) but is a referral from a previos customer that I will thank when this is over. I have been trying to steer her to more traditional fare but I am have very little luck. Thanks for listening.

An english crumpet is similar to what we refer to as an english muffin, but with a slightly finer grain. A scottish crumpet is very similar to what we call a pancake, as are flapjacks.

Sterling

OL' Timer
02-03-2011, 02:48 PM
If you are supplying the wine, I would check into the laws. In TN, FL, AZ and CO you need a liquor licence to supply any alcohol whatsoever, unless cooked.

infernooo
02-03-2011, 02:50 PM
An english crumpet is similar to what we refer to as an english muffin, but with a slightly finer grain. A scottish crumpet is very similar to what we call a pancake, as are flapjacks.

Sterling

Crumpets are a completely different beast to an "english muffin".

Hopefully this will help!

These are crumpets:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/7741657_5bd416f945_o.jpg
http://www.justfoodnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Buttered-crumpet-image-from-wsc.co_.uk_.jpg
http://www.vitarium.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Vitarium-Crumpet-Mix.jpg

These are muffins:
http://www.thekneadforbread.com/wp-content/uploads/english_muffin.jpg
http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20090513-english-muffin.jpg
http://thisdamecooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/english-muffin.jpg

We also tend to consider flapjacks as pikelets:
http://www.safesalt.com.au/pikelets.jpg
http://melissagoodsell.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/13/pikelets_2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/3028442279_401101d177_o.jpg

Crumpets and muffins most typically are served with cream (THICK - not pourable) and jam (strawberry preserves/jelly).

Creature
02-03-2011, 02:54 PM
Although I'm not sure of the differences, I do like a nice bit of crumpet :wink:

For those outside the UK: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crumpet

goro25
02-03-2011, 04:58 PM
Although I'm not sure of the differences, I do like a nice bit of crumpet :wink:

For those outside the UK: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crumpet


#5? :shock:

landarc
02-03-2011, 05:10 PM
You are on the wrong track Ash, you want scones, cream scones, cooked in rounds. Berries, chocolate and softly whipped cream really are great on fresh cream scones.

Bob Wiley
02-03-2011, 06:22 PM
Crumpets are a completely different beast to an "english muffin".


Crumpets and muffins most typically are served with cream (THICK - not pourable) and jam (strawberry preserves/jelly).


I'm glad you pointed that out. I've never thought they were similar in the least; But then a good crumpet is uncommon to chance upon in the states.

SmokeOCD
02-03-2011, 09:06 PM
5 small crepes stacked, pecans, maple syrup. Had that for dessert for the first time about 15 years ago in MX and I still talk about it. You can also make huge crepes and serve wedges out of the bigger crepe dessert.

Bob Wiley
02-03-2011, 09:18 PM
How about grilled fruit. 1/2 peach grilled face down. Serve in shallow bowl drizzled with rasberry sauce and a dollop of chantilly cream.

Ashmont
02-03-2011, 09:29 PM
If you are supplying the wine, I would check into the laws. In TN, FL, AZ and CO you need a liquor licence to supply any alcohol whatsoever, unless cooked.


Thanks! I have the license for beer and wine!

Phyphor
02-03-2011, 09:56 PM
I have to say scones are good. But you have French Crepes and Russian Blini to consider as well.

ShutYrMouth
02-04-2011, 12:33 AM
#5? :shock:

:shock::laugh::laugh::laugh:

CarbonToe
02-04-2011, 02:57 AM
I was going to make small ones and drape some melted chocolate and some berries on top. That or I will make some crepes! The customer is insisting a unique dessert and not ice cream ect. I will be serving pulled pork, stuffed Yorkshire pudding, grilled asparagus. White wine, water, coffee hot tea/ Cold tea! (No Soda per her request) I do need to let you know that this lady is severely eclectic (Farkin nuts!) but is a referral from a previos customer that I will thank when this is over. I have been trying to steer her to more traditional fare but I am have very little luck. Thanks for listening.

I do really like the idea of stuffing Yorkies with pulled pork and serving with those veg. You might need some sauce to tie it all together as we normally eat Yorkshore puddings with a Beef Roast dinner and smother them in gray (which is different to your light brown gravy, its normally made with the jucies that are left in the pan after roasting, rmove the fat, tip in some wine (red or white) and reduce by half then whisk in some flour to thicken and cook through.

Unless you are talking about mini Yorkshrie puddings and are serving them as finger food a light bite stuffed with both the pork and the asparagus..

You are on the wrong track Ash, you want scones, cream scones, cooked in rounds. Berries, chocolate and softly whipped cream really are great on fresh cream scones.

I totally agree. We tend to eat crumpets as breakfast as a toast substitute. Great with Marmite!

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/11/5/1257445490950/Crumpets-001.jpg

Scones are like a sweet biscuit, made about an inch or slightly over thick (can be with or without raisens and currents [known as fruit scones]).

You serve them whole with tea (yyrrrcchhhh, I'll take coffee thanks!), a small dish of jam, one of butter, some fresh strawberries (if you're posh) and either whipped or (if you can get it) clotted cream. It's up to the person eating to slice them in half and put what ever filling on before eating (as a half not a sandwich!)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S0-C9MHmoqU/TGnguMTrRWI/AAAAAAAABIE/Mmh0o4OH5ig/s1600/Afternoon-Tea-Scones.jpg

They are not hard to make, just hard to get right!!! I would make a practice batch first as they can be served cold and they do keep well in an airtight container.

Recipe: http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/paul_hollywoods_scones_70005

I have to say scones are good. But you have French Crepes and Russian Blini to consider as well.

Crêpe are excellent, but best made to order. If you want to impress and are confident, you can made Crêpe Suzette and flame tableside wich always gets the guests talking!

Bilini's are like a small (1" diameter) thick pancake which are best served as a buffet style with smoked samon, dill sour cream. Great with some sparkling wine if you're wooing the ladies!!!!!

http://hchefrandy.food.officelive.com/images/Bilini%20with%20Smoke%20Salmon%20Tartar%20Sour%20C ream%20Dill.jpg

Norcoredneck
02-04-2011, 03:36 AM
#5? :shock:
Kinda hard to cook for the masses. :becky:

Seriously send a PM to Big Brother Smoke (http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/member.php?u=2689)or The Drill Sargent (http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/member.php?u=18824)for ideas.

jeffjenkins1
02-04-2011, 07:52 AM
"Cricket, you have to know what a crumpet is to play cricket" TMNT

Jeff

Ashmont
02-04-2011, 09:23 AM
Thanks guys and Gals..... I hope I can change her mind to crepes if I make them table side. Made a billion of them over the years and not a problem. The problem is the customer and kinda stuck.

caseydog
02-04-2011, 07:30 PM
Might I suggest a bread pudding? You can do it in dutch ovens. Serve it with a Jack Daniels sauce. It has that British thing going on, and it is BBQ friendly.

CD

lauras231279
02-04-2011, 08:08 PM
In the UK, a crumpet is most similar to what you call an English muffin, but its not as "bready". In my family, they were mainly a savory thing, not sweet.

A flapjack is a sort of cookie, made from oats and butter and syrup (like corn syrup kind of) which is then cooled. Delicious.

And pancakes, in the UK, are generally what you would call Crepes but a bit smaller. Unless you are from Scotland, in which case they are like a mini-US pancake (almost!).

Best things to serve would be scones, like a sweet biscuit. Very delicious.

ShutYrMouth
02-04-2011, 08:50 PM
ive never had them, but crumpets look awesome