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Richard
The past number of years, in late December/early January, I set forth a number of goals I plan to work towards achieving in my life – business, financial, personal etc. A year ago, I added a culinary goal, and achieved it just as the year was ending.

For 2022, my culinary goal was to master making my own pizza dough, as I’d been using store bought dough for well over ten years. While the results were very good, I decided it was time to learn to do it myself, and learn to do it well.

Part of my education process on dough making led me to this video on how to make NY style pizza, by [FONT=&quot]Vito Iacopelli[/FONT], most certainly a non-New Yorker:

https://youtu.be/R8V0WYS-f7I

I loved the way his pizza turned out, and was intrigued by the fact that he used two kinds of flour; Italian “00” and fine semolina – the result, he promised would be “nice and crunchy”. So, after watching the video a number of times, plus copying and pasting the recipe a commenter was kind enough to notate, I set about making the dough as described. The dough ingredients were mixed, then kneaded by hand – no mixer was involved. Once into a ball, it was put into a bowl covered to rise for 30 minutes, then went into a covered container lined with a thin coating of olive oil into the fridge for an overnight cold rise.

I didn’t capture pictures of the dough being made or even of the doughball ready to work, but in watching Vito form his dough into a round, I decided to try his method of creating the rim around his crust, AND forming it by hand ON a well floured deck without even picking it up.

The dough formed from a 8 inch round to a 14 inch round in less than 2 minutes of hand stretching on the deck:





Using this method was a game changer for me, as in the past, my pizzas while round from hand stretching, were uneven in terms of thickness. I will be doing this moving FW, as the pie was not only perfectly round, the thickness was even throughout.

Dough onto the Super Peel and ready to sauce:








Sauced:





A dusting of parmesan:





Now cheese and oregano:





I added pepperoni, but skipped that pic. Into the Blackstone Oven - heated to a stone temp of about 550, which is about 125 degrees cooler than I'm used to:






Getting close:





Right out of the oven:





Added fresh basil:





Then sliced:





Plated:











Thickness-wise, it certainly looked and behaved like NY pizza. The semolina definitely added the promised “crunch” Vito promised. Most importantly, the dough was delicious, with a complex flavor and character that can only be attained through a long cold ferment.

I have a number of pizza doughs I’m planning on working on: New Haven, Roman Style, Detroit, and American style. More to follow as the year progresses!
 
This sounds like something I need to try, also been using store bought with brief forays into homemade dough. My in-laws live in and around New Haven and they always rave about one particular place who's name escapes me. With that said, IMHO, just about all the pizza in New England is good. As a transplanted Texan, I've stopped eating Mexican or Cajun food up here, and I stopped eating pizza from Southeast or Central Texas when I visit.
 
I'm gonna be following along. I have been buying my dough mostly as well. and really want to start making my own.
I did not get finished with his video yet, but you didn't use the screen?
 
This sounds like something I need to try, also been using store bought with brief forays into homemade dough. My in-laws live in and around New Haven and they always rave about one particular place who's name escapes me. With that said, IMHO, just about all the pizza in New England is good. As a transplanted Texan, I've stopped eating Mexican or Cajun food up here, and I stopped eating pizza from Southeast or Central Texas when I visit.


I wonder if the New Haven place you mentioned is either Sally's or Frank Pepe's? They are two of the most popular...

Regardless, the nuances of pizza dough making are considerable, but well worth the effort, I think. At the moment, I'm trying to get a handle on understanding how variations in different ingredients affects the dough, like flour, water, yeast, & salt. Then there's the kind of flour - bread flour, AP flour, 00 flour, and how they all behave and what kind of pizza they are best for.

www.pizzamaking.com is highly recommended source I visit nearly daily now.
 
I wonder if the New Haven place you mentioned is either Sally's or Frank Pepe's? They are two of the most popular...

Regardless, the nuances of pizza dough making are considerable, but well worth the effort, I think. At the moment, I'm trying to get a handle on understanding how variations in different ingredients affects the dough, like flour, water, yeast, & salt. Then there's the kind of flour - bread flour, AP flour, 00 flour, and how they all behave and what kind of pizza they are best for.

www.pizzamaking.com is highly recommended source I visit nearly daily now.

Lol, good luck down that rabbit hole! Don't forget about the different sauces for different styles, and cheese. High quality ingredients make a world of difference.

One thing I can tell you, it's worth it. I love me some pizza, any and all styles.

You're NY looks great!
 
Stunning!!

Homemade definitely beats the heck out of store bought especially hand kneaded and fermented. :hungry: Looking forward to your future pizza endeavors.
 
I've just started making the dough myself. I love the taste of my first attempt, but stretching the dough so far has been an epic fail. I'll watch the video and try his dough recipe for sure.
 
I'm gonna be following along. I have been buying my dough mostly as well. and really want to start making my own.
I did not get finished with his video yet, but you didn't use the screen?


I have some Trader Joe's dough in the freezer I'm going to pull out for this week's pizza, mainly as I want to continue hand stretching on the deck and to see how the dough performs. I expect I will get a nice even edge on the pizza, something that has always eluded me.

Vito does two pizzas in the video, one on a screen, one directly on the stone. I never use a screen - I prefer the entire surface of the bottom of the pie meets the cooking stone. Just my preference.


Screens have their place in my kitchen though, and that's as a holding "rack" for a 1-2 minutes so the pie cools down a bit after it gets right out of the oven. The holes in the screen help ventilate the crust so it stays crisp.
 
I wonder if the New Haven place you mentioned is either Sally's or Frank Pepe's? They are two of the most popular...

Regardless, the nuances of pizza dough making are considerable, but well worth the effort, I think. At the moment, I'm trying to get a handle on understanding how variations in different ingredients affects the dough, like flour, water, yeast, & salt. Then there's the kind of flour - bread flour, AP flour, 00 flour, and how they all behave and what kind of pizza they are best for.

www.pizzamaking.com is highly recommended source I visit nearly daily now.

After conferring with BIL, it's Pepe's on Wooster st. Been there a few times and it is really really good pizza!
 
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