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Sorry to hear about the poor service. While good customer service has been in a steep decline, it does still exist.

Last November we decided to get a gas fireplace insert installed. It was not going to be cheap, but it's something my wife had wanted for a long time and it would make our living room more enjoyable during the winter months. We paid 1/2 up front and the install was scheduled for December. December came and we get a call from the owner of the mom & pop fireplace store we purchased from. He apologized and told me that due to manufacturing issues from Covid, there was a delay in getting the fireplace insert and we were now looking at January for the install. In the same breath, he said if we didn't want to wait, he would send me a refund immediately.

We decided to wait. January came and he called again, apologized and said there were more delays, it wasn't just our unit, but everyone's unit from the manufacturer. Again, he offered a refund. This time, I accepted the refund because it weather warms up here by March. When I went to the store to pick up the check, my handwritten check was waiting for me and I saw there was small stack of checks for other customers.

This store was conducting business the right way for all it's customers, not just me. I told the owner I would be back later this year and that we'll give it another try for this next winter.

If you are in the Sacramento Area and need a Fireplace, gas insert, or pellet insert, the store is River City Fireplace and Barbecue.
 
Home warranty is like bean in chili
Love em-Hate em-don’t care

If you’re gone a lot and in a career where you can’t get home there’s peace of mind that Bride can contact one number.

Back to topic. Just departed an early Sam’s Run. Pretty cool looking Z Grill Pellet Cooker under 4Benjies. I was in pursuit of Oxtail (successful). Several peeps lifting lids and kicking castors. Pellets are loved. Understandably.

I loved my Pellet but not enough to get frustrated chasing another.
 
A few years ago on Black Friday GMG had one of their specials. I already had 2 different sizes but decided this would be perfect for the families of my 2 daughters and son.

Went to a local dealer rather than the dealer I had ordered from in the past because i wasnt able to drive the distance to pick up 3 different grills because of size of truck and had no trailer available. Was told a date to pick up well before Christmas. Not a time frame but a specific date. Confirmed a few days before date with local dealer and was told everything was a go. So on specific day I went with my son, who I told so he drove up 2 1/2 hours to pick it up. When we got there was told they did not have the grills we ordered there dealer says he will not be able to send any until after January and so will not be able to honor price, that was already charged to my credit card. I was hot.

Had a good relationship with GMG so I called them and they did some research, confirmed what i said. My dealer is not one of their dealers but has a dealer that then goes through a distribution warehouse or something. Long story short was suggested I contact my CC company which I did and was refunded but after all this Christmas was messed up and families didnt get near as good as we had planned. GMG made it right as best they could on their end sending swag and supplies to make up, that I actually got before Christmas that year.

Customer service in general is the pits anymore and it is not always the companies fault when to many middlemen are involved. All it takes is one person to not give a chit, that makes for a bad experience and gives companies bad names. But it other way around many times too.
 
I just got done building a house, and am still in the process of trying to get the pool finished. Took me 3 months to get porch columns. The Pandemic is really not an "excuse", it's a real problem. People got paid more, in many instances, to sit home instead of going to work (In KY, they got regular unemployment + 600 dollars per week, so instead of going to work, they sit home) No workers, no products. Everything is behind because of this. Now, them not calling to let you know is a different story, that's just poor communication.

Word. If you want unemployment to go down, quit subsidizing it. It will drop like a rock. Everywhere I know of is hiring.
 
Home warranty is like bean in chili
Love em-Hate em-don’t care

If you’re gone a lot and in a career where you can’t get home there’s peace of mind that Bride can contact one number.

Back to topic. Just departed an early Sam’s Run. Pretty cool looking Z Grill Pellet Cooker under 4Benjies. I was in pursuit of Oxtail (successful). Several peeps lifting lids and kicking castors. Pellets are loved. Understandably.

I loved my Pellet but not enough to get frustrated chasing another.

I’m not chasing anything. Either I’ll order one from ATBBQ or wait for LSG. They start production in May. Both are pretty similar.
 
I’m not chasing anything. Either I’ll order one from ATBBQ or wait for LSG. They start production in May. Both are pretty similar.
If you decide for something other than Yoder, another option is Outlaw. Their website is out of date (it's a very small operation and marketing seems to be the last thing they're focusing on), but their product is excellent. I was in their shop just recently and continue to be very impressed both by their cookers and their people (Ten minutes with Nelson White will make you want to buy two smokers and invest in his company--if you're not a retired teacher!).

My OL450 is probably too small for your needs, but the six-inch longer OL680 (no current picture online) might be perfect for you. Advantages over Yoder IMO include: much better ash removal process, welded seams, more personal service, maybe better paint (we'll know more after a season or two).

 
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If you decide for something other than Yoder, another option is Outlaw. Their website is out of date (it's a very small operation and marketing seems to be the last thing they're focusing on), but their product is excellent. I was in their shop just recently and continue to be very impressed both by their cookers and their people (Ten minutes with Nelson White will make you want to buy two smokers and invest in his company--if you're not a retired teacher!).

My OL450 is probably too small for your needs, but the six-inch longer OL680 (no current picture online) might be perfect for you. Advantages over Yoder IMO include: much better ash removal process, welded seams, more personal service, maybe better paint (we'll know more after a season or two).


Going to check them out now. Thanks!!
 
So a somewhat good story. We had an early spring warm up. Kicked on the AC, no go. Dead. Tech says he can try to fix it... this will be the fourth "Fix it" in three years. I just got a bonus at work- I say quote me a new system.

I get the quote, compare to some others and decide to go with this guy. He tells me that his supplies are iffy right now, but he'll keep me posted.

I've been waiting two weeks but he's called every 2-3 days with updates. My heatpump is in, but he's waiting on the air handler. It's in North Carolina and he has a tracking number. He expects delivery Mon-Wed next week and will install it the next day.
The delays suck, but I appreciate the communication.
 
That’s all I was looking for. Keep me updated and we wouldn’t have had any issues. I’d rather give my money to a better store.
 
I work in the service industry. I'm a field service engineer for capital investment equipment. I live and die by communication with my customers and being in the service industry I have a very low tolerance for companies/people that don't communicate.

We had a former service director that liked to say... "Its amazing how tolerant our customers are when we communicate with them and how intolerant they become when we don't."

I could not agree with him more. To make matters worse... communication is virtually free yet many companies harm themselves over one of their most valuable assets that costs pretty much nothing.

It cost nothing to send an email saying "sorry, your part is delayed and we expect it in xx-xx." or to make a phone call and say "I'm running late but will be there by XX"
I have had to deliver very bad news to customers and 9 times out of 10 while they may not like the news they appreciate the communication. There is also a way to deliver the news.
It isn't hard and the customer deserves that respect.
 
That’s all I was looking for. Keep me updated and we wouldn’t have had any issues. I’d rather give my money to a better store.

Check with Indigo Pool and Patio in Venice, Fl. They’ve been known to have Yoders in stock. They’ve also taken on Pitts&Spitts. I used to live near Venice and the folks there a great.
 
I want it ALL and I want it NOW! The First World problems that annoy us is entertaining to me.COVID was wake up call.Reminds me of an old song I like,,,,You can’t always get what you want,but if you try sometimes,you just might find................you get what you need.Happy Days my friend.
 
I was told 7 weeks on my Bluestar range. If it isn't ready by exactly 7 weeks I'm not cancelling my order. Times are hard right now and many manufacturers are struggling to keep up.
 
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