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Anybody know anything about the Holland KC Pellet Grill?

They're discontinued, so I can't find much about them, but someone near me is selling a used one.

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Anybody know anything about the Holland KC Pellet Grill?

They're discontinued, so I can't find much about them, but someone near me is selling a used one.

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Sorry, I’m no help...

Robb?
 
Anybody know anything about the Holland KC Pellet Grill?

They're discontinued, so I can't find much about them, but someone near me is selling a used one.

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I know nothing about them. They do appear to have the old-school digital controllers and from the few pics I see online appear to be on the lower end of the spectrum quality wise. That said, how much is the seller asking? On a scale of 1-10 what kind of condition is it in? Why is he selling? If you buy and don’t like, you may have a hard time reselling just because it lacks brand recognition. Personally, I’d be a bit nervous about replacement parts for this grill should you need anything down the road.

If you can grab it for dirt-cheap, then perhaps it would be a fun and affordable way to wet your feet in the world of pellet cooking?
 
Thanks for the insight! He's asking $400. I considered offering $300, but from the sounds of it that's still too much.

Thanks again!

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All this pellet talk had me thinking about lifting the less exciting handle tonight so I decided on some strips with Oakridge Santa Maria. Low smoke until 120 internal then seared on the searbox, the Camp Chef strikes again!


Very nice lookin cook! The camp chef really shines
 
Totally. I bought Rec Tec because it is a quality grill for the money. But aesthetics do count and if you don’t like the way something looks that matters. Everybody swears by the Grilla OG but I hate the looks of it. In the end it has to not offend your personal taste.

Lot of truth in the above and I also go back to the post by PJ regardywondering if you overspent and underspending and wondering what might have been.

I too own a Rec Tec. As for the horns, I can take them or leave them because at the end of the day, I really find no barbecue cooker visually pleasing.

Offsets are as ugly to me as drums. Really in the case of many of them, that’s actually all it is. With another smaller drum of box welded to it.

Cabinets remind me of early 20th century refrigerators that used ice blocks.

Kamados look like flower pots.

My Otto Wilde looks like a toaster oven.

My WSM looks like R2D2. And my kettle looks like something from the 60’s because well, that’s what it is. Something from the 60’s.

Smokers and outdoor cookers have never been esthetically pleasing to me. They’re pieces of equipment. Just me, but I don’t care for the esthetics of any of them. I only care what the food, and in most cases certain foods, taste like off of them.

I bought my Rec Tec pellet grill primarily to handle low and slow cooks without having to tend a fire as I had done with a previously owned offset and had to do to a lesser extent with my WSMs and Kamado.

I sear steaks either using my Kamado Joe or as of late my Otto Wilde. I prefer my steaks seared at much hotter temperatures than the average pellet grill can reach. I’m also experimenting with fish in my Otto and like the fact that it can heat up so quickly for quick meals. Literally in about 3 minutes. I cook wings on my Weber Kettle with a Vortex. I get crispier skin and indirect heat is easier and I get more smoke flavor doing them that way with a good lump charcoal than I can get on my pellet grill. I cook plank salmon on my Kamado Joe, preferring the additional smoke from lump charcoal that I can’t get from a pellet grill along with the cedar in the water or white wine soaked plank. I just prefer that medley of flavors as opposed to plank salmon from my pellet grill. The list goes on. I use my lineup based on the taste I’m looking for. I prefer a heavier smoke on ribs, turkeys and chicken so my WSM or my KJ will get those. I prefer rotisserie chickens or kabobs so my Kamado Joe with the Joetisserie will get those. I like the smoke flavor that can be obtained on these foods cooking them this way vs on my pellet grill.

I wasn’t going to spend MAK money on a first pellet cooker which wouldn’t get any more work than my overnight cooks and foods that would have otherwise seen my oven. I also wanted reliable and consistent WiFi connectivity and control.

I mention the oven because someone else has already said it. A pellet smoker is an oven which makes smoke. I find that assessment to be mostly true. I would add to that, smoke from a cleaner burning fuel source, namely pellets, so a lighter smoke flavor can be expected when using them.

I use my pellet smoker much like I use my home oven, but with the intent of adding light smoke to the end result. That’s going to be lobster tails, shrimp en Brouchette, ABTs, stuff which would have seen the oven, plus the overnight cooks of brisket or pork butts. My Kamado Joe gets pizzas.

But I already know that I prefer certain foods cooked a certain way and on certain cookers or type cookers because not all characteristics of multiple cookers can be obtained using just one cooker for everything.
 
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But I already know that I prefer certain foods cooked a certain way and on certain cookers or type cookers because not all characteristics of multiple cookers can be obtained using just one cooker for everything.
__________________. bingo for me, 1 cooker would never make me happy, maybe the wife but not me lol
 
lot of truth in the above and i also go back to the post by pj regardywondering if you overspent and underspending and wondering what might have been.

I too own a rec tec. As for the horns, i can take them or leave them because at the end of the day, i really find no barbecue cooker visually pleasing.

Offsets are as ugly to me as drums. Really in the case of many of them, that’s actually all it is. With another smaller drum of box welded to it.

Cabinets remind me of early 20th century refrigerators that used ice blocks.

Kamados look like flower pots.

My otto wilde looks like a toaster oven.

My wsm looks like r2d2. And my kettle looks like something from the 60’s because well, that’s what it is. Something from the 60’s.

Smokers and outdoor cookers have never been esthetically pleasing to me. They’re pieces of equipment. Just me, but i don’t care for the esthetics of any of them. I only care what the food, and in most cases certain foods, taste like off of them.

I bought my rec tec pellet grill primarily to handle low and slow cooks without having to tend a fire as i had done with a previously owned offset and had to do to a lesser extent with my wsms and kamado.

I sear steaks either using my kamado joe or as of late my otto wilde. I prefer my steaks seared at much hotter temperatures than the average pellet grill can reach. I’m also experimenting with fish in my otto and like the fact that it can heat up so quickly for quick meals. Literally in about 3 minutes i cook wings on my weber kettle with a vortex. I get crispier skin and indirect heat is easier and i get more smoke flavor doing them that way with a good lump charcoal than i can get on my pellet grill. I cook plank salmon on my kamado joe, preferring the additional smoke from lump charcoal that i can’t get from a pellet grill along with the cedar in the water or white wine soaked plank. I just prefer that medley of flavors as opposed to plank salmon from my pellet grill. The list goes on. I use my lineup based on the taste i’m looking for. I prefer a heavier smoke on ribs, turkeys and chicken so my wsm or my kj will get those. I prefer rotisserie chickens or kabobs so my kamado joe with the joetisserie will get those. I like the smoke flavor that can be obtained on these foods cooking them this way vs on my pellet grill.

I wasn’t going to spend mak money on a first pellet cooker which wouldn’t get any more work than my overnight cooks and foods that would have otherwise seen my oven. I also wanted reliable and consistent wifi connectivity and control.

I mention the oven because someone else has already said it. A pellet smoker is an oven which makes smoke. I find that assessment to be mostly true. I would add to that, smoke from a cleaner burning fuel source, namely pellets, so a lighter smoke flavor can be expected when using them.

I use my pellet smoker much like i use my home oven, but with the intent of adding light smoke to the end result. That’s going to be lobster tails, shrimp en brouchette, abts, stuff which would have seen the oven, plus the overnight cooks of brisket or pork butts. My kamado joe gets pizzas.

But i already know that i prefer certain foods cooked a certain way and on certain cookers or type cookers because not all characteristics of multiple cookers can be obtained using just one cooker for everything.

this^^^^^
 
Lot of truth in the above and I also go back to the post by PJ regardywondering if you overspent and underspending and wondering what might have been.

I too own a Rec Tec. As for the horns, I can take them or leave them because at the end of the day, I really find no barbecue cooker visually pleasing.

Offsets are as ugly to me as drums. Really in the case of many of them, that’s actually all it is. With another smaller drum of box welded to it.

Cabinets remind me of early 20th century refrigerators that used ice blocks.

Kamados look like flower pots.

My Otto Wilde looks like a toaster oven.

My WSM looks like R2D2. And my kettle looks like something from the 60’s because well, that’s what it is. Something from the 60’s.

Smokers and outdoor cookers have never been esthetically pleasing to me. They’re pieces of equipment. Just me, but I don’t care for the esthetics of any of them. I only care what the food, and in most cases certain foods, taste like off of them.

I bought my Rec Tec pellet grill primarily to handle low and slow cooks without having to tend a fire as I had done with a previously owned offset and had to do to a lesser extent with my WSMs and Kamado.

I sear steaks either using my Kamado Joe or as of late my Otto Wilde. I prefer my steaks seared at much hotter temperatures than the average pellet grill can reach. I’m also experimenting with fish in my Otto and like the fact that it can heat up so quickly for quick meals. Literally in about 3 minutes I cook wings on my Weber Kettle with a Vortex. I get crispier skin and indirect heat is easier and I get more smoke flavor doing them that way with a good lump charcoal than I can get on my pellet grill. I cook plank salmon on my Kamado Joe, preferring the additional smoke from lump charcoal that I can’t get from a pellet grill along with the cedar in the water or white wine soaked plank. I just prefer that medley of flavors as opposed to plank salmon from my pellet grill. The list goes on. I use my lineup based on the taste I’m looking for. I prefer a heavier smoke on ribs, turkeys and chicken so my WSM or my KJ will get those. I prefer rotisserie chickens or kabobs so my Kamado Joe with the Joetisserie will get those. I like the smoke flavor that can be obtained on these foods cooking them this way vs on my pellet grill.

I wasn’t going to spend MAK money on a first pellet cooker which wouldn’t get any more work than my overnight cooks and foods that would have otherwise seen my oven. I also wanted reliable and consistent WiFi connectivity and control.

I mention the oven because someone else has already said it. A pellet smoker is an oven which makes smoke. I find that assessment to be mostly true. I would add to that, smoke from a cleaner burning fuel source, namely pellets, so a lighter smoke flavor can be expected when using them.

I use my pellet smoker much like I use my home oven, but with the intent of adding light smoke to the end result. That’s going to be lobster tails, shrimp en Brouchette, ABTs, stuff which would have seen the oven, plus the overnight cooks of brisket or pork butts. My Kamado Joe gets pizzas.

But I already know that I prefer certain foods cooked a certain way and on certain cookers or type cookers because not all characteristics of multiple cookers can be obtained using just one cooker for everything.


I still say ya need to add a full sized stand-alone griddle to your arsenal... then you’d be “complete”... ;-). But yep, having the right tool/fuel to prepare specific foods to your liking is one of the things that makes this wonderful hobby/craft so enjoyable. Couldn’t agree more :)

As far as some cookers not being sexier than others... couldn’t disagree more. Have you not seen the Kalamazoo lineup? Oh man, be still my heart!! I have been asking for a Kalamazoo for Fathers Day for at least 10 years now. Family seems to think the $20k price tag is to steep... lol :(
 
I still say ya need to add a full sized stand-alone griddle to your arsenal... then you’d be “complete”... ;-). But yep, having the right tool/fuel to prepare specific foods to your liking is one of the things that makes this wonderful hobby/craft so enjoyable. Couldn’t agree more :)

As far as some cookers not being sexier than others... couldn’t disagree more. Have you not seen the Kalamazoo lineup? Oh man, be still my heart!! I have been asking for a Kalamazoo for Fathers Day for at least 10 years now. Family seems to think the $20k price tag is to steep... lol :(

Yes, beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder.

Hopefully this Fathers Day you'll get that Kalamazoo.

Good luck.
 
I'm gonna throw a wrench in... What about Memphis grills? There's a dealer near me that is having a sale on the Advantage and the Pro models.

That's a lot of coin! Are they worth it?
Depends on your needs. I just bought a Pro in 304 stainless a couple months ago. I live at the beach and the salt air destroys grills here if they live outside. So far it has gone way above my expectations and has all but replaced my other grills.


I've heard they're great for searing but the rear mounted pellet hopper can be a pain depending on how the thing is situated. I think their maintenance video was an interesting watch.
Something I didn't see anywhere in their documentation is the hopper lid is reversible. I have mine so it flips back so I can fill it from the front.


The Memphis are really nice!!! The 2 things that kept me from considering the Pro when I was shopping a number of years back was the lighter smoke profile and the # of complaints I kept seeing about grease fires on the Pro. I think the fires are much more common on the Pro’s than the other Memphis models. Had I gone Memphis, it would have been the Elite. Today, the fact they have moved manufacturing to China would rule them out completely for me. Just my thoughts/opinions.
I saw the letter that circulated a few years ago, but they're still made in USA. Currently the only one made in China is the Beale. As for the grease fires, I saw some of those videos too. No idea how they're starting since it uses a short horizontal auger to a chute that feeds the burn chamber.

It's in smoke mode from 180°F - 295°F and goes into cook mode at 300+°F. I'm coming from charcoal and have been very happy with the smoke profile.

Here's mine with the reversed hopper lid and you should be able out the Made in USA flag in the upper right corner of the sticker. Unfortunately, it will never be this clean again. I've used almost all 100# of pellets that came with it and am about to start using Lumberjack.
 
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Depends on your needs. I just bought a Pro in 304 stainless a couple months ago. I live at the beach and the salt air destroys grills here if they live outside. So far it has gone way above my expectations and has all but replaced my other grills.



Something I didn't see anywhere in their documentation is the hopper lid is reversible. I have mine so it flips back so I can fill it from the front.



I saw the letter that circulated a few years ago, but they're still made in USA. Currently the only one made in China is the Beale. As for the grease fires, I saw some of those videos too. No idea how they're starting since it uses a short horizontal auger to a chute that feeds the burn chamber.

It's in smoke mode from 180°F - 295°F and goes into cook mode at 300+°F. I'm coming from charcoal and have been very happy with the smoke profile.

Here's mine with the reversed hopper lid and you should be able out the Made in USA flag in the upper right corner of the sticker. Unfortunately, it will never be this clean again. I've used almost all 100# of pellets that came with it and am about to start using Lumberjack.


Not at all knocking the Memphis lineup, as they are SUPER nice!! I did however want to make sure I had an accurate understanding of where the Memphis grills are being manufactured. Just got off the phone with Memphis Grills and was told by Erik (sales) that they do have a few left in inventory that were made in the US, but that all new Memphis grills (all models) are now being manufactured overseas.
 
Not at all knocking the Memphis lineup, as they are SUPER nice!! I did however want to make sure I had an accurate understanding of where the Memphis grills are being manufactured. Just got off the phone with Memphis Grills and was told by Erik (sales) that they do have a few left in inventory that were made in the US, but that all new Memphis grills (all models) are now being manufactured overseas.
Wow, that's disappointing. Being made in USA was very important to me and the 2 finalists were MAK and Memphis. If the 2 Star General had stainless base, there's a good chance that it would be sitting on my deck instead.

I wonder when Memphis is going to change their website. Their FAQ still says "Your Memphis grill was proudly designed, engineered and made in Bloomington, MN USA!"

Damn. Just. Damn.
 
Wow, that's disappointing. Being made in USA was very important to me and the 2 finalists were MAK and Memphis. If the 2 Star General had stainless base, there's a good chance that it would be sitting on my deck instead.

I wonder when Memphis is going to change their website. Their FAQ still says "Your Memphis grill was proudly designed, engineered and made in Bloomington, MN USA!"

Damn. Just. Damn.


I hear ya! I even asked if we’d see a reduced selling price w/ the move to overseas manufacturing. I was told there would be no change in current price point.
 
surf and turf on the pit boss classic

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typical sellout. Guess I can cross Memphis off my list. Currently thinking of doing a ys480, will see what happens in this next month.
 
typical sellout. Guess I can cross Memphis off my list. Currently thinking of doing a ys480, will see what happens in this next month.

I like the Yoder’s too but a lot of folks mention that they have paint issues. Can anyone who’s purchased a newer one comment on how their paint is holding up? All the complaints I see are older threads, I’d imagine that they’ve fixed the issue by now?
 
I like the Yoder’s too but a lot of folks mention that they have paint issues. Can anyone who’s purchased a newer one comment on how their paint is holding up? All the complaints I see are older threads, I’d imagine that they’ve fixed the issue by now?


Have you spent much time on the Yoder FB owners group? I would say that the paint is still a very real issue for many :(
 
how are the blaz n grills? They have nice paint for sure. Wifi is a big ad-on though. Also looking at smokin' brothers.
 
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