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Unread 07-10-2013, 04:02 PM   #1
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Building an outdoor kitchen to accommodate new grill and clear off existing covered patio. We poured a 7x13 slab adjacent to existing patio slab and matched its slope for drainage. The plumbing and electrical have been roughed in as well. Now it is on to framing and I can't seem to figure something out although I think I know the answer. Please help.

The patio is sloped for drainage and I want my counter tops to drain as well so water won't just stand on them. Mistake???

Do I shim my framing to remove the slope and allow for plumb framing and brick work only to then have to recreate the slope so my countertops will have a slight run off and not hold standing water? Do I just follow the existing slope and have everything lean slightly?

Do I just quit worrying about my granite counter tops draining since a flat surface won't hold much water anyway?

What have others done? Am I over engineering this thing? It has been mostly diy til now but I am paying a pro to brick it.

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Shim your cabinets to make them level, I would make the countertops level, but if you decide to slope them, slope them to the back, maybe 1/8 of and inch.
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I have an outdoor kitchen area with a concrete countertop, electrical, gas, sink, etc. It is built on a sloped "L" shaped slab.

I built the framework with steel studs and made the front slope about 1/4" for drainage.

I sloped front to back not side to side so the stainless drawer fronts were level.

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I would level the cabinets and countertops; with the investment you are making you want a quality professional job. You can always get a window squeegee to get rid of any standing water but I don't think that you will have much/any to worry about.
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I guess I could come help, I didn't realize we were in the same town...
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If you want a slight slope on the countertops, do it on a level and plumb cabinet base. A slightly sloped top will be hard to see, but a leaning cabinet will really show.

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Come on with it. Lumber gets delivered Friday and i start Saturday.
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I have an outdoor kitchen area with a concrete countertop, electrical, gas, sink, etc. It is built on a sloped "L" shaped slab.

I built the framework with steel studs and made the front slope about 1/4" for drainage.

I sloped front to back not side to side so the stainless drawer fronts were level.

Mine is L shaped too but I have an access door for each side so I will just keep everything level and decide on sloping the top later. Thanks for input.
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Mine is L shaped too but I have an access door for each side so I will just keep everything level and decide on sloping the top later. Thanks for input.
Be sure to check your electrical, gas and location codes before building.

I have a natural gas grill in mine and there was a minimum 4' offset code requirement from my home to the grill. Plus I believe steel studs were required with any gas lines, etc. If using propane there are also other safety distance and barrier requirements.
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I'd level the cabinet base to the flooring by shimming it up so your cabinets are square. This will help you avoid any alignment issues or problems keeping doors shut. If you angle the counter top I would not go anymore than 1/4" over a 2' deep counter. It may be mor trouble than its worth because you will always have residual water to wipe off if level or angled.
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Be sure to check your electrical, gas and location codes before building.

I have a natural gas grill in mine and there was a minimum 4' offset code requirement from my home to the grill. Plus I believe steel studs were required with any gas lines, etc. If using propane there are also other safety distance and barrier requirements.
I am just building an L shaped island with electrical, nat gas connection and a sink. The grill is a free standing broil king that will be next to the island and while the island will be wood framed, it will be veneered in full size brick so there shouldn't be any major fire concerns that don't exist with normal grilling. Famous last words.

I really appreciate everyone's input. It really helps. When I get home I will see if I can upload a copy of my plans in case anyone sees something I am doing wrong.
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