WiredBBQ.com and the Banquet

[leanza]

Originally Posted by jorge

nobody else submitted a proposal, and it wouldn't be fair to allow the one group that took the initiative to broadcast?

bs...?

[HoDeDo]

Well I know an afterparty that might make great footage! :) <going to room now>

[Jeff_in_KC]

Yes it just might Andy! Email sent.

[SmokeInDaEye]

Wow. I don't normally get involved in KCBS debates but this is the most mentally challenged thing I have ever seen. Why would broadcasting the event cut down on attendance? People would much rather see a concert live than watch a webcast that is impersonal and choppy.

I would have submitted a counter offer to come broadcast it if that's the issue but PR101 says the more coverage the better...

If anyone has contact info for the WiredBBQ guys please shoot it over. I've got some ideas. :)

[Jeff_in_KC]

Originally Posted by SmokeInDaEye

Wow. I don't normally get involved in KCBS debates but this is the most mentally challenged thing I have ever seen. Why would broadcasting the event cut down on attendance? People would much rather see a concert live than watch a webcast that is impersonal and choppy.

I would have submitted a counter offer to come broadcast it if that's the issue but PR101 says the more coverage the better...

If anyone has contact info for the WiredBBQ guys please shoot it over. I've got some ideas. :)

I know, right? Let any and all come! BBQ TV doesn't do live broadcasts so it's altogether different! Let them BOTH show up!

[White Dog BBQ]

Let me get this straight -- KCBS just invested significant resources in promoting the Team of the Year race. An innovative company comes along and offers to broadcast the awards ceremony celebrating the race internationally and free of charge. Rather than accept the gracious offer, they reject it. And in the process, they cut out the great number of KCBS members who can't attend the banquet, and penalize a big supporter of BBQ for being innovative.

It's shortsighted thinking like this that is holding KCBS back. Rather than waste time trying to combat the evils of nepotism and e-mails by Board members, it should be focusing on opportunities like the one presented by WiredBBQ. What a wasted opportunity.

[Gene01]

Just as an FYI, I like the people at wiredbbq, I have nothing against them.... the fact is it was e-mail posted 72 hours before the meeting, it gave no time for any others to submit, the agenda for the public was only out the day or 2 before the vote, it was only out 2 days for board members who are to vote, no other comparable groups could be reached and the board was not thinking it would be fair and that it may drop attendance at the banquet.

[drbbq]

Hey Gene, Thanks for being available and honest. Guys may disagree with you but at least there is civil communication.

[HoDeDo]

I dont think anyone on the board has anything against wired BBQ. There would not be any reason for them to. I was just voicing my disappointment in the thought process. Some others have echoed that sentiment. I'm not saying that you are holding any group in disfavor, i just think the board has taken the wrong approach.

I normally stay out of these threads, Its just the last two elections I have tried to vote with folks I thought would have some of the same ideas I do, and It appears not to be the case. It blows my mind that the entire board would vote against something as innocuous as streaming the awards. The Royal and the Jack both came to the same conclusions I thought our board would.

Just the ability for the international viewers alone would be something KCBS has never had before. I just would think the positives would have outshown the potential negatives.

I also didnt know that there were other comparable groups interested in streaming the awards/banquet. I know of several organizations the record footage, and produce episodes, like BBQ TV, I didnt know of anyone else that would stream the banquet live. I'd think others could be added though if they asked, after seeing the idea...

Anyway, just wanted it to be clear, I didnt think there was any "agenda" by anyone, or disdain for WiredBBQ. I just think the thought process to get to the decision is flawed, and am disappointed by that. Again Gene, I appreciate you, and your candid discussion on it.

[Just Pulin' Pork]

Originally Posted by Gene01

Just as an FYI, I like the people at wiredbbq, I have nothing against them.... the fact is it was e-mail posted 72 hours before the meeting, it gave no time for any others to submit, the agenda for the public was only out the day or 2 before the vote, it was only out 2 days for board members who are to vote, no other comparable groups could be reached and the board was not thinking it would be fair and that it may drop attendance at the banquet.

Gene thanks for the honesty, but as a KCBS member this is an unacceptable decision by all of you. This can still be done, there is plenty of time. Bring this to the table at the next "Special meeting" that is to take place on December 20th and make this happen. You guys know the attendance and that this in no way shape or form will impact the attendance to this event. Its things like that makes me as a member not want to attend this because I know my $$$ will be going to an organization that is run by people who can not make the decisions that are POSITIVE AND RIGHT for the KCBS and its members! If I were an elected official I would be embarrassed! I see why some of the people who thought they were elected in the past and thought they could make a difference have quit!

Jon

[ThomEmery]

Originally Posted by Gene01

Just as an FYI, I like the people at wiredbbq, I have nothing against them.... the fact is it was e-mail posted 72 hours before the meeting, it gave no time for any others to submit, the agenda for the public was only out the day or 2 before the vote, it was only out 2 days for board members who are to vote, no other comparable groups could be reached and the board was not thinking it would be fair and that it may drop attendance at the banquet.

While I disagree with the conclusions reached
I like others appreciate you coming in and speaking Gene

In house web casting event results and important meetings is something
I hope to look at as a member of the board if elected

[indianagriller]

As a first year competitor and now a former member of KCBS i really have no dog in the fight, but lately the board has solidified my reasoning of not renewing my membership this year. I couldnt attend this years banquet if i wanted to due to work schedules, but maybe like the Jack and the Royal I am making plans to go next year.

[Jorge]

Gene, I also appreciate you taking the time to provide additional info. I don't agree with, or understand the decision and reasoning behind it, but I do respect the fact that you will willing to address the issue.

[Jeff_in_KC]

Originally Posted by Gene01

Just as an FYI, I like the people at wiredbbq, I have nothing against them.... the fact is it was e-mail posted 72 hours before the meeting, it gave no time for any others to submit, the agenda for the public was only out the day or 2 before the vote, it was only out 2 days for board members who are to vote, no other comparable groups could be reached and the board was not thinking it would be fair and that it may drop attendance at the banquet.

I'm just shocked that there wasn't ONE PERSON on the board who could see through the negativity and vote YES! Gene, after everyone here (who by the way are mostly cooks) has voiced their opinions on this, can you still not see where the board's decision was a bad one for all involved? Can you see no benefit to KCBS in free positive publicity?

[White Dog BBQ]

Originally Posted by Gene01

Just as an FYI, I like the people at wiredbbq, I have nothing against them.... the fact is it was e-mail posted 72 hours before the meeting, it gave no time for any others to submit, the agenda for the public was only out the day or 2 before the vote, it was only out 2 days for board members who are to vote, no other comparable groups could be reached and the board was not thinking it would be fair and that it may drop attendance at the banquet.

I'm a little confused -- according to the quick notes, this issue was tabled at the November hearing. Are the quick notes incorrect?