Official 2010 Jack Draw Results - Page 11

ModelMaker · 09-07-2010, 03:17 PM

Can't we all just get along and invite me to the Jack to wash dishes?
(Lord knows I'll never get there by cookin...)
Ed

Meat@Slim's · 09-07-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DawgPhan

How about the Jack people do their own damn leg work and make sure that the teams they invite are they teams they should be inviting.

It appears that you could send in an application with 7 made up grands that you won at your house against 49 imaginary teams sanctioned by the magical imaginary BBQ sanctioned society and get an automatic to the Jack.

They could at least do a little double checking on the automatics...there was only 4-5 of them this year.

Check that: 3-4 of them. Even easier to check.

Bentley · 09-07-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VisionQuest220

As Chris stated, it is the integrity of the process that matters. Any team that qualifies fairly deserves entry into the contest, but I have firsthand knowledge which I have openly shared that one contest used to gain entry did not meet qualifying standards per the sanctioning body.

And still, the facts of that non-qualifying contest have not been addressed.

So they way I read what you are saying is...you question the integrity of the way the JD picks the teams? That they are bending their own rules or worst case senerio, just not following them.

That is the way your position comes across to me.

You maybe right...as a minnow in the BBQ community that will never see an invitation to the Brew 102 World Championship, much less the JD, I don't care...I, like Plowboy have always wondered about the alure of the contest. I got to cook with a team in 2006 and the mystic was burst for me after that experience...I was most dissapointed by the judging pool.

Jorge · 09-07-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bentley

So they way I read what you are saying is...you question the integrity of the way the JD picks the teams. That they are bending their own rules or worst case senerio, just not following them.

That is the way your position comes across to me.

That's not what he said.

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ThomEmery · 09-07-2010, 04:31 PM

Debbie talked to Lynn today
We shall see the results soon

spicewine · 09-07-2010, 04:32 PM

La La La La La La La La

2Fat · 09-07-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ique

Its really not that bad (I think). Here is my take on an abbreviated version:

Q
Home State
* If any state is not represented at this point teams that live in the state may be selected
* Parrothead lives in North Dakota. No teams from North Dakota were selected in the other draws. Parrothead goes to the Jack
* If there were multiple teams in the draw from North Dakota they would have a home state draw

Pretty sure John lives in South Dakota---

Scottie · 09-07-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Fat

Pretty sure John lives in South Dakota---

Oh... there's a difference? ;)

Jorge · 09-07-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

Oh... there's a difference? ;)

You have a warrant out in both?

Smoke'n Ice · 09-07-2010, 05:18 PM

I understand they are for "cow" support!

Smokesman · 09-07-2010, 05:36 PM

"First hand knowledge"??? "Integrity of the Jack"? This is getting ridiculous! If the New Mexico comp were a KCBS event this would be a non-issue because none of this would have ever happened. I read the IBCA rules last night and they are full of holes, vagaries and so poorly written it is no wonder confusion reigned. Harry Soo has been working his arse off to get to the Jack only to potentially be stopped cold by a poorly run comp. He defended himself just like anyone in his position would. Why Harry is being dragged through the dirt when the organizer and IBCA should be the ones with hell to pay. And if there is no one gunning for Harry then you could knock me over with a stick.

The mistakes made at the IBCA event should have ended there and Harry should not be penalized.

2Fat · 09-07-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

Oh... there's a difference? ;)

absolutely!

Bentley · 09-07-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorge

That's not what he said.

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Like I said in my post, that is the perception I get from his post.

ique · 09-07-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Fat

Pretty sure John lives in South Dakota---

So if anyone is looking for a more reliable way to get into this contest, here is the plan... move to North Dakota :)

Smoke'n Ice · 09-07-2010, 05:51 PM

My understanding of the KCBS rules and procedure is to keep the results as the rep has final say but to correct any money payouts using KCBS funds but not change the results. There would also be some additional rep training involved but they would not have thrown the organizer and rep under the bus.

I may have heard a rumor that attornies were involved and "roll over and play dead" was the response in lieu of doing the right thing.

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09-07-2010, 05:36 PM	#161
Smokesman Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 12-20-09 Location: Cincinnati, OH Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"First hand knowledge"??? "Integrity of the Jack"? This is getting ridiculous! If the New Mexico comp were a KCBS event this would be a non-issue because none of this would have ever happened. I read the IBCA rules last night and they are full of holes, vagaries and so poorly written it is no wonder confusion reigned. Harry Soo has been working his arse off to get to the Jack only to potentially be stopped cold by a poorly run comp. He defended himself just like anyone in his position would. Why Harry is being dragged through the dirt when the organizer and IBCA should be the ones with hell to pay. And if there is no one gunning for Harry then you could knock me over with a stick. The mistakes made at the IBCA event should have ended there and Harry should not be penalized. __________________ Matt Schneider - "The Smokesman" - Velvet Smoke BBQ & Catering KCBS Certified BBQ Judge #54767 Weber Smokey Mountain 22 & Superior Smoker SS1 [B][COLOR="Red"]"To BBQ is human, for swine is divine!"[/COLOR][/B]

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Smoke'n Ice is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-08-09 Location: Plano, TX Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My understanding of the KCBS rules and procedure is to keep the results as the rep has final say but to correct any money payouts using KCBS funds but not change the results. There would also be some additional rep training involved but they would not have thrown the organizer and rep under the bus. I may have heard a rumor that attornies were involved and "roll over and play dead" was the response in lieu of doing the right thing.