What would you have done? (Long sorry)

Just Pulin' Pork · 07-12-2010, 01:59 PM

After turn ins at a contest this past weekend I was over BS'ing with a member on another team and a master judge walked up. The master judge asked how did our cooking go, and we both said we were happy with what we turned in. Then the master judge asked the team I was talking too, what number they were assigned and then the master judge saw the spot# on the ground. I looked at the person I was talking to with a WTF look on my face and then the master judge asked me what spot my team was in and I told him (only because I did not know where this was going). The master judge thought for a minute and said, "no, no I don't think we got either of your boxes at our table." I looked again at the person I was talking too and asked how would they know what boxes they got and the master judge said they tag another # onto your space # and he said "today they used 801" and then told us he was a "table captain and I did not judge so don't worry." The Master Judge then said "I wished we would have gotten the boxes from the team in spot # blank" (I am not giving it so don't ask). At this point the master judge said he had to move along and then I see him walk over and talk to the team that he "wished he would have gotten their boxes."

By now, both me and the person I was talking to were like "did that really happen?" At that point I said I was reporting it to the reps from KCBS. The kicker of all of this is after awards, I started talking with the reps to report what happened, I see the same master judge helping carry one of the trophies out to the car for the team, "that he wished they would have gotten there boxes."

The reps said they are filing a report with the KCBS and they thanked me for reporting it. Just curious on how others would have handled this.

Scottie · 07-12-2010, 02:03 PM

same way...

Alexa RnQ · 07-12-2010, 02:19 PM

Hold.the.phone.
A Master Judge was at a contest, gave particulars about the renumbering system, openly expressed he wished he'd gotten a certain team's box, yet claimed he wasn't judging?
Damn, how many different things are wrong with this picture?

Yes, I'd have followed up with the rep, and possibly with a board member to boot.

Dustaway · 07-12-2010, 02:26 PM

I guess the blind numbering system isn't so bad after all....

Yea I would of done the same thing after I cooled down from Kick Arse Mod

Jeff_in_KC · 07-12-2010, 02:35 PM

Just like you did, Jon... only I'd also contact the KCBS office yourself TODAY and give all the specific details and then email the board. There is probably still an address where it goes to all of them.

Sledneck · 07-12-2010, 02:41 PM

I thought it was legal after judging to find out what team you judged? In sayville 2 years ago i had a few people come up to me that had one of my entries.

Scottie · 07-12-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

I thought it was legal after judging to find out what team you judged? In sayville 2 years ago i had a few people come up to me that had one of my entries.

did they like A-1?

RobKC · 07-12-2010, 03:03 PM

I hope that guy isn't judging next week. Good job reporting it, Jon.

Just Pulin' Pork · 07-12-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobKC

I hope that guy isn't judging next week. Good job reporting it, Jon.

If I see him in Burlington I will call him out!

ique · 07-12-2010, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

I thought it was legal after judging to find out what team you judged? In sayville 2 years ago i had a few people come up to me that had one of my entries.

No its not legal to disclose a teams entry even after judging

Balls Casten · 07-12-2010, 03:36 PM

For real …
A judge wanted to stop and inform you, or someone, that he did not score meat from the team whose trophy he was carrying?

Ford · 07-12-2010, 04:22 PM

You did right in reporting that table captain(master judge). When Reps use an easy number like 801 it's possible for a smart table captain to figure out the number by looking at 24 boxes especially in a contest with only say 50 teams. Might not get max and min but should be able to guess. It makes more sense to start with a number that is at least as large as the number of teams but less than 3 times the number of teams. This would work for most contests and make it much more difficult to figure out the "random" number the rep chooses. Like I said 801 is not a smart choice by the Rep. You might want to email the Rep Committee Chairperson about this "problem"

ModelMaker · 07-12-2010, 05:34 PM

Wow, what a dick. Sometimes I tire of trying to ensure you all we as judges are giving our best and somebody like this shows up.
Please if all facts are accurite revoke this guys certification.
Don't want em, don't need em.
Ed

Sledneck · 07-12-2010, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ique

No its not legal to disclose a teams entry even after judging

well it happened and it was a kcbs event

Sledneck · 07-12-2010, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottie

did they like A-1?

they must of cause it was a first place

07-12-2010, 01:59 PM	#1
Just Pulin' Pork is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 03-08-08 Location: Overland Park Kansas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What would you have done? (Long sorry) After turn ins at a contest this past weekend I was over BS'ing with a member on another team and a master judge walked up. The master judge asked how did our cooking go, and we both said we were happy with what we turned in. Then the master judge asked the team I was talking too, what number they were assigned and then the master judge saw the spot# on the ground. I looked at the person I was talking to with a WTF look on my face and then the master judge asked me what spot my team was in and I told him (only because I did not know where this was going). The master judge thought for a minute and said, "no, no I don't think we got either of your boxes at our table." I looked again at the person I was talking too and asked how would they know what boxes they got and the master judge said they tag another # onto your space # and he said "today they used 801" and then told us he was a "table captain and I did not judge so don't worry." The Master Judge then said "I wished we would have gotten the boxes from the team in spot # blank" (I am not giving it so don't ask). At this point the master judge said he had to move along and then I see him walk over and talk to the team that he "wished he would have gotten their boxes." By now, both me and the person I was talking to were like "did that really happen?" At that point I said I was reporting it to the reps from KCBS. The kicker of all of this is after awards, I started talking with the reps to report what happened, I see the same master judge helping carry one of the trophies out to the car for the team, "that he wished they would have gotten there boxes." The reps said they are filing a report with the KCBS and they thanked me for reporting it. Just curious on how others would have handled this.

07-12-2010, 02:03 PM	#2
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07-12-2010, 02:19 PM	#3
Alexa RnQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 09-12-07 Location: the Ninth Ring of Hell, cleverly disguised as Phoenix Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hold.the.phone. A Master Judge was at a contest, gave particulars about the renumbering system, openly expressed he wished he'd gotten a certain team's box, yet claimed he wasn't judging? Damn, how many different things are wrong with this picture? Yes, I'd have followed up with the rep, and possibly with a board member to boot. __________________ . . Don't practice until you get it right; practice until you can't get it wrong. Don't overthink or undercook. Rhythm 'n QUE

07-12-2010, 02:26 PM	#4
Dustaway is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-22-06 Location: Tomball,Texas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I guess the blind numbering system isn't so bad after all.... Yea I would of done the same thing after I cooled down from Kick Arse Mod __________________ "She Thinks My Slabs Are Sexy" Ole Hickory Ultra Que 22" WSM Backwoods Chubby http://sexyslabs.com "Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." Anthony J. D'Angelo

07-12-2010, 02:35 PM	#5
Jeff_in_KC somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-04-05 Location: Pleasant Hill, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just like you did, Jon... only I'd also contact the KCBS office yourself TODAY and give all the specific details and then email the board. There is probably still an address where it goes to all of them. __________________ Big Creek BBQ Competition Team KCBS Member and CBJ #14287 Contest Organizer - Smokin' on Big Creek Co-Founder and Executive Director Operation BBQ Relief, Inc. Visit us at Operation BBQ Relief dot org

07-12-2010, 02:41 PM	#6
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thought it was legal after judging to find out what team you judged? In sayville 2 years ago i had a few people come up to me that had one of my entries. __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

07-12-2010, 03:03 PM	#8
RobKC Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 07-10-07 Location: Huger, SC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I hope that guy isn't judging next week. Good job reporting it, Jon. __________________ Go For Smoke BBQ - Huger SC Border War Smokers - "BBQ worth killin' your neighbor for" KCBS CBJ Custom Superior Smokers trailer with 2 SS-Twos, Stoked WSM, 22.5" OTG 2008 National Championship KANSAS JAYHAWK BLUE Thermapen You can't go back and you can't stand still If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will

07-12-2010, 03:36 PM	#11
Balls Casten is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 01-04-09 Location: Johnston, Ia Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For real … A judge wanted to stop and inform you, or someone, that he did not score meat from the team whose trophy he was carrying? __________________ Doug Backwoods G2 Party Yoder YS480 "I thought you just ate?" "I did but that was what I like to call first lunch."

07-12-2010, 04:22 PM	#12
Ford is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 04-14-07 Location: Lakeland Florida Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You did right in reporting that table captain(master judge). When Reps use an easy number like 801 it's possible for a smart table captain to figure out the number by looking at 24 boxes especially in a contest with only say 50 teams. Might not get max and min but should be able to guess. It makes more sense to start with a number that is at least as large as the number of teams but less than 3 times the number of teams. This would work for most contests and make it much more difficult to figure out the "random" number the rep chooses. Like I said 801 is not a smart choice by the Rep. You might want to email the Rep Committee Chairperson about this "problem" __________________ Ford Owner/Head Cook/Chief Bottle Washer for Great Lakes BBQ & Feed Competition BBQ Team FBA Member, KCBS Member & KCBS Certified BBQ Judge Spicewine medium, weber kettle, gas grill

07-12-2010, 05:34 PM	#13
ModelMaker is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 04-21-06 Location: Lake Ponderosa-Montezuma, IA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wow, what a dick. Sometimes I tire of trying to ensure you all we as judges are giving our best and somebody like this shows up. Please if all facts are accurite revoke this guys certification. Don't want em, don't need em. Ed __________________ Designer of a custom drum smoker Customized Aussie gas passer Turkey fryer Extremely seasoned hand hammered Wok Pit Boss-HART BURN Competition BBQ Team KCBS certified judge And Your not the boss of me either!!

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