Any truth to this

devious · 07-06-2010, 02:55 PM

I smoked 2 pork butts this weekend for the 4th, and while im pulling the pork my close friend says to me. If we didnt put rub on the meats we smoke we wouldnt get the smoke ring. any truth to that?

keith

chambersuac · 07-06-2010, 02:59 PM

from what I understand, it is. There have been a few really good posts on the topic in the last year - I can't tell ya exactly, but it isn't really the smoke, but the heat causing a reaction with a chemical or chemicals in the rub. I'm sure someone will post a better explanation.

chambersuac · 07-06-2010, 03:02 PM

Thirdeye posted a great post about this in this thread:
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...ght=smoke+ring

I was wrong, it IS the smoke, not the heat...oh well, just read the post by ThirdEye - he's the expert :)

Mister Bob · 07-06-2010, 03:04 PM

None whatsoever! The smoke ring is caused by the nitrates created by burning wood. This will even happen with a very clean burning fire with no visible smoke at all. A 'smoke' ring also can be artificially created using Morton's Tender Quick or some other tenderizer containing nitrates.

chambersuac · 07-06-2010, 03:09 PM

Like I said, there's NO truth in it at all :) Told ya more knowledgeable folk would chime in.

devious · 07-06-2010, 03:15 PM

third eyes post clears it up thanks guys

1FUNVET · 07-06-2010, 03:17 PM

No truth at all.

Ron_L · 07-06-2010, 03:39 PM

Here's a fatty with no rub at all. The smoke ring is clearly visible.

Chipper · 07-06-2010, 03:42 PM

I did a brisket last week and forgot to put rub on it until after 5 hours on the smoker. The ring was very pronounced, so there you go.

maxwell7 · 07-06-2010, 03:54 PM

Thirdeye must be the Alton Brown of the bbq forum. I hope I didn't just insult him!

TN_BBQ · 07-06-2010, 06:37 PM

what you should have done with your two butts is an experiment (one with rub and one without rub).

BluesDaddy · 07-07-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devious

I smoked 2 pork butts this weekend for the 4th, and while im pulling the pork my close friend says to me. If we didnt put rub on the meats we smoke we wouldnt get the smoke ring. any truth to that?

keith

Maybe you're buddy confused smoke ring with bark. The sugars in the rub help promote a nice bark, which you will not get nearly as well without a rub with some type of sugars.

Rookie'48 · 07-07-2010, 01:51 PM

Take a pork butt right out of the fridge & put it on the smoker with no rub - you'll get a very pronounced smoke ring.

Grinder10 · 07-07-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie'48

Take a pork butt right out of the fridge & put it on the smoker with no rub - you'll get a very pronounced smoke ring.

And zero bark.

07-06-2010, 02:55 PM	#1
devious is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-08-09 Location: Bellevue Nebraska Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Any truth to this I smoked 2 pork butts this weekend for the 4th, and while im pulling the pork my close friend says to me. If we didnt put rub on the meats we smoke we wouldnt get the smoke ring. any truth to that? keith __________________ Big Red Kenmore gasser, black shirt UDS

07-06-2010, 02:59 PM	#2
chambersuac somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-02-09 Location: Manito, IL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	from what I understand, it is. There have been a few really good posts on the topic in the last year - I can't tell ya exactly, but it isn't really the smoke, but the heat causing a reaction with a chemical or chemicals in the rub. I'm sure someone will post a better explanation. __________________ Dan Large BGE x 2, Small BGE, Big Steel Keg, WSM, 22" Weber Kettle, Charmglow Gasser, The Holy Smoked UDS and her sister UDS, and one custom trailer-ed smoker. The universe's fastest and most accurate Thermapen. (Replaced by Brethren) IMBAS Certified MOINK Ball maker Thanks, Grillman, for the avatar! And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. [Acts 20:32 KJV]

07-06-2010, 03:02 PM	#3
chambersuac somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-02-09 Location: Manito, IL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thirdeye posted a great post about this in this thread: http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...ght=smoke+ring I was wrong, it IS the smoke, not the heat...oh well, just read the post by ThirdEye - he's the expert :) __________________ Dan Large BGE x 2, Small BGE, Big Steel Keg, WSM, 22" Weber Kettle, Charmglow Gasser, The Holy Smoked UDS and her sister UDS, and one custom trailer-ed smoker. The universe's fastest and most accurate Thermapen. (Replaced by Brethren) IMBAS Certified MOINK Ball maker Thanks, Grillman, for the avatar! And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. [Acts 20:32 KJV]

07-06-2010, 03:04 PM	#4
Mister Bob is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 06-15-09 Location: New Windsor, NY Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	None whatsoever! The smoke ring is caused by the nitrates created by burning wood. This will even happen with a very clean burning fire with no visible smoke at all. A 'smoke' ring also can be artificially created using Morton's Tender Quick or some other tenderizer containing nitrates. __________________ Mister Bob, Pitmaster - Bob's Hogs KCBS CBJ #31759 - IMBAS Certified MOINK Baller The Hog Blog BBQ Tips, Tricks and Recipes Custom 84" offset trailer Black Betty (ram-a-lam), red Stumps Baby, large BGE (they don't come in red), Smoke-EZ 26.75" Weber OTG, UDS, Mini UDS, Weber gasser, red and black Aussie Walkabout red BBQ Guru CyberQ II, Super fast and super accurate red Thermapen

07-06-2010, 03:09 PM	#5
chambersuac somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-02-09 Location: Manito, IL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Like I said, there's NO truth in it at all :) Told ya more knowledgeable folk would chime in. __________________ Dan Large BGE x 2, Small BGE, Big Steel Keg, WSM, 22" Weber Kettle, Charmglow Gasser, The Holy Smoked UDS and her sister UDS, and one custom trailer-ed smoker. The universe's fastest and most accurate Thermapen. (Replaced by Brethren) IMBAS Certified MOINK Ball maker Thanks, Grillman, for the avatar! And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. [Acts 20:32 KJV]

07-06-2010, 03:15 PM	#6
devious is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-08-09 Location: Bellevue Nebraska Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	third eyes post clears it up thanks guys __________________ Big Red Kenmore gasser, black shirt UDS

07-06-2010, 03:17 PM	#7
1FUNVET Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-16-09 Location: Lake Charles La Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No truth at all.

07-06-2010, 03:39 PM	#8
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Chicago 'Burbs Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here's a fatty with no rub at all. The smoke ring is clearly visible. __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Save The Fatty! FEC-100/BWS Party/Memphis Pro SS/PBC/LBGE X 2/SBGE/Mini BGE/Nomad Pellet-matic/Good-One Model 42/WSM X 2/Cookshack Smokette 008/Weber Performer/Weber Gasser/Weber Kettle X 2/Weber Smokey Joe/WGA/UDS/Coffee Roasting Gasser and a pickle Remembering a friend

07-06-2010, 03:42 PM	#9
Chipper is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 09-09-08 Location: Red Lion, PA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I did a brisket last week and forgot to put rub on it until after 5 hours on the smoker. The ring was very pronounced, so there you go. __________________ Backwoods- Competitor Grill Dome- Super Dome "The Twins"- 2 Large Grill Domes Weber Performer Weber Smokey Mountain Kamado #7 [URL="http://www.redlionspicyfoods.com"]www.redlionspicyfoods.com[/URL] [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/CHARLE%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]

07-06-2010, 03:54 PM	#10
maxwell7 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 07-07-09 Location: Centerview , M0. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thirdeye must be the Alton Brown of the bbq forum. I hope I didn't just insult him!

07-06-2010, 06:37 PM	#11
TN_BBQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-02-08 Location: Knoxville, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what you should have done with your two butts is an experiment (one with rub and one without rub). __________________ Life's a party with a Backwoods Party!

07-07-2010, 01:51 PM	#13
Rookie'48 Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 11-12-06 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Take a pork butt right out of the fridge & put it on the smoker with no rub - you'll get a very pronounced smoke ring. __________________ Dave Compton KCBS MasterCBJ # 22569 KCBS BoD Judges' Advocate Possibly the only judge ever to get an award from a bunch of cooks UDS 075 UCB WSM and a bunch of other stuff. The above post is only my opinion - mine & mine alone.

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