Which event defines the True "World Champion" of competition BBQ?

BChawg · 02-11-2010, 12:45 PM

Memphis in May?
The AR Invitational?
The AR Open?
The Jack?
The Texas Rodeo?
Team of The Year winner?
The Pickled Pigs Power rankings?
Total Prize Money won in a given year?
Pitmaster circuit winner?

PlowDoggleIQueEnvy?

Unfortunately, I don't have a dog in the fight on this one! Should be fun to get an overall opinion from the Band of Brethren!

Clark

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landarc · 02-11-2010, 12:51 PM

IMO, none of them do. You can't name a true World Champion unless there is one set of rules and one set of judges, in fact, I think there would have to be some sort of unified organization. Look at boxing, what a mess, sure there have been unified champions at times, there have also been mutiple champions at times. Too messy.

Sauced! · 02-11-2010, 01:02 PM

A combined KCBS/MBN type event is about as close as you could get I think and there is only 1 of those I think (Illinois?).

Scottie · 02-11-2010, 01:06 PM

clearly The Jack, as that is the only one that invites International Teams.

VGuilford · 02-11-2010, 01:07 PM

I would consider The Jack a World Championship contest. because there are competitors from around the world there competing.

CivilWarBBQ · 02-11-2010, 01:12 PM

I agree that The Jack is the closest thing to a true "world" championship because of the presence of teams from outside North America.

Sauced! · 02-11-2010, 01:18 PM

But its not an open event. That is the one drawback.

VGuilford · 02-11-2010, 01:23 PM

The Jack is consisted of Grand Champions from around the country and the world. Everyone there has to have won a contest in order to get a chance at a draw. Not sure how the world competitors are decided.

TN_BBQ · 02-11-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by landarc

IMO, none of them do. You can't name a true World Champion unless there is one set of rules and one set of judges, in fact, I think there would have to be some sort of unified organization. Look at boxing, what a mess, sure there have been unified champions at times, there have also been mutiple champions at times. Too messy.

I agree. No real way of crowning a World Champ.

Too messy.

Needless to say, if you win any of those events you are a world class cooker.

BChawg · 02-11-2010, 02:29 PM

Only thing with the Jack is that alot of "Powerhouse" teams don't always make the weighted draw

Curious--how many international teams have placed top ten overall at the Jack? Has an international team ever won it?

Clark

Clark Kent

monty3777 · 02-11-2010, 02:40 PM

Personally, I would only call myself World Champion if I won the Jack. Clearly I'm not suggesting that it will happen - but that's how I see it.

With that said, I think the size of the AR puts it in a class all its own. Perhaps American Champion, or something like it.

Scottie · 02-11-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BChawg

Only thing with the Jack is that alot of "Powerhouse" teams don't always make the weighted draw

Curious--how many international teams have placed top ten overall at the Jack? Has an international team ever won it?

Clark

Clark Kent

Mad Cow won it like 6 years ago? They are from England...

Any team that makes the Jack is a champion. Because "powerhouse" teams don't make it, then I'd suggest they win more and get that auto... that is also part of the allure of the Jack...

Jacked UP BBQ · 02-11-2010, 02:59 PM

I would say the Jack, because it is international, American Royal is exactly what the name says, American. I do not believe they are anyless prestigious just not the World Champion.

DawgPhan · 02-11-2010, 03:03 PM

Well Memphis in May also calls itself the World Championship. I would say that the Jack and MIM are the 2 world championships and if someone referred to themselves as a world champion you would know they meant one of those 2 events. Those events are also probably the only 2 national events that carry any swagger outside of the BBQ world. Everyone knows about Memphis in May and the Jack.

Scottie · 02-11-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DawgPhan

Well Memphis in May also calls itself the World Championship. I would say that the Jack and MIM are the 2 world championships and if someone referred to themselves as a world champion you would know they meant one of those 2 events. Those events are also probably the only 2 national events that carry any swagger outside of the BBQ world. Everyone knows about Memphis in May and the Jack.

Houston also calls itself the World Championship. So if you want to argue with a Texan, go ahead. But my feeling is if you don't invite International Teams, I don't see how you can proclaim that you are the World Champion. And you can tell Myron I said that!!!!

02-11-2010, 12:45 PM	#1
BChawg Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 11-20-08 Location: Springfield MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Which event defines the True "World Champion" of competition BBQ? Memphis in May? The AR Invitational? The AR Open? The Jack? The Texas Rodeo? Team of The Year winner? The Pickled Pigs Power rankings? Total Prize Money won in a given year? Pitmaster circuit winner? PlowDoggleIQueEnvy? Unfortunately, I don't have a dog in the fight on this one! Should be fun to get an overall opinion from the Band of Brethren! Clark Clark Kent Super Smokers

02-11-2010, 12:51 PM	#2
landarc somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 06-26-09 Location: San Leandro, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	IMO, none of them do. You can't name a true World Champion unless there is one set of rules and one set of judges, in fact, I think there would have to be some sort of unified organization. Look at boxing, what a mess, sure there have been unified champions at times, there have also been mutiple champions at times. Too messy. __________________ "perhaps...but then again...maybe not..." careful there son, those ribs are boiling hot... \_\|_/ (='.'=) Here there be bunnies... (")_(")ooo Pacific Rim BBQ Bob's Brew and Que

02-11-2010, 01:02 PM	#3
Sauced! Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 05-06-09 Location: Mount Holly, NC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A combined KCBS/MBN type event is about as close as you could get I think and there is only 1 of those I think (Illinois?). __________________ Scott, Head Cook - Sauced! BBQ Team

02-11-2010, 01:06 PM	#4
Scottie Babbling Farker Join Date: 11-03-06 Location: Chi-Town Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	clearly The Jack, as that is the only one that invites International Teams. __________________ cancersuckschicago.com FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA BBQ TOUR Red Jambo one off FE 100 FEC 100 WSM Homer Simpson 22 " Weber Kettle Red 18 1/2" Weber Kettle Black 26 3/4" Weber Kettle

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VGuilford is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 03-01-07 Location: Raymore, Mo. South of Kansas City Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would consider The Jack a World Championship contest. because there are competitors from around the world there competing. __________________ See Ya in the Smoke!!! Vern MooCow BBQ www.moocowbbq.com KCBS CBJ Texas Smoker Oklahoma Joe Original Vermont Castings Gasser Turkey fryer Little Smokey Joe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MoFo Chapter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-11-2010, 01:12 PM	#6
CivilWarBBQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 08-08-07 Location: Cartersville, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I agree that The Jack is the closest thing to a true "world" championship because of the presence of teams from outside North America.

02-11-2010, 01:18 PM	#7
Sauced! Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 05-06-09 Location: Mount Holly, NC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	But its not an open event. That is the one drawback. __________________ Scott, Head Cook - Sauced! BBQ Team

02-11-2010, 01:23 PM	#8
VGuilford is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 03-01-07 Location: Raymore, Mo. South of Kansas City Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The Jack is consisted of Grand Champions from around the country and the world. Everyone there has to have won a contest in order to get a chance at a draw. Not sure how the world competitors are decided. __________________ See Ya in the Smoke!!! Vern MooCow BBQ www.moocowbbq.com KCBS CBJ Texas Smoker Oklahoma Joe Original Vermont Castings Gasser Turkey fryer Little Smokey Joe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MoFo Chapter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-11-2010, 02:29 PM	#10
BChawg Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 11-20-08 Location: Springfield MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Only thing with the Jack is that alot of "Powerhouse" teams don't always make the weighted draw Curious--how many international teams have placed top ten overall at the Jack? Has an international team ever won it? Clark Clark Kent

02-11-2010, 02:40 PM	#11
monty3777 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-13-08 Location: Happytown, IA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Personally, I would only call myself World Champion if I won the Jack. Clearly I'm not suggesting that it will happen - but that's how I see it. With that said, I think the size of the AR puts it in a class all its own. Perhaps American Champion, or something like it. __________________ John 21:9

02-11-2010, 02:59 PM	#13
Jacked UP BBQ Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-09-08 Location: Forker River, NJ Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would say the Jack, because it is international, American Royal is exactly what the name says, American. I do not believe they are anyless prestigious just not the World Champion. __________________ Jacked UP BBQ vending Ocean County Pig Assassins competition team retired and is now known as Jacked UP BBQ Fec 750 Fec 100 Large Spicewine

02-11-2010, 03:03 PM	#14
DawgPhan is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-09-07 Location: Atlanta, Ga Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well Memphis in May also calls itself the World Championship. I would say that the Jack and MIM are the 2 world championships and if someone referred to themselves as a world champion you would know they meant one of those 2 events. Those events are also probably the only 2 national events that carry any swagger outside of the BBQ world. Everyone knows about Memphis in May and the Jack.

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