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Unread 01-20-2010, 02:17 PM   #16
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Brian, I agree that a programming change may be needed. I'm just stating what I think has happened and why.

I really think MMA is setting the team pages up to do something cool this season. If they are linking the pages up to the database, the team pages will be automatically able to reflect past results and points.

It looks like the programming was set up based on Member Name (and number), then Team Name - thus, only listing KCBS members and allowing each member to only be listed once. With a number of teams having very similar names, it looks like member name was the best way to make sure the right team got the appropriate points. Unless each team is assigned a separate number then member number (or something to indicate each team in the database) something's gotta give.

How would you list another established team to be part of yours? If my suspicions are correct, I think that would happen from a membership start/renewal level.
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I didn't even know we had a bio but I logged on and checked and sure enough we do. Had our team name correct and my wife and I listed as members (family membership). So I finished editing the info and put up a picture
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Brian, I agree that a programming change may be needed. I'm just stating what I think has happened and why.

I really think MMA is setting the team pages up to do something cool this season. If they are linking the pages up to the database, the team pages will be automatically able to reflect past results and points.

It looks like the programming was set up based on Member Name (and number), then Team Name - thus, only listing KCBS members and allowing each member to only be listed once. With a number of teams having very similar names, it looks like member name was the best way to make sure the right team got the appropriate points. Unless each team is assigned a separate number then member number (or something to indicate each team in the database) something's gotta give.

How would you list another established team to be part of yours? If my suspicions are correct, I think that would happen from a membership start/renewal level.

I didn't do anything. JD added my name to the Left Hand Smoke bio, and Midnight Ramblers vanished from the KCBS team list. When I logged in to the site and tried to reclaim the name it took me to Left Hand Smoke and would not let me enter anything into the Bios.
The Bullsheet is addressed to me and Midnight Ramblers.

Dawn contacted me from KCBS and straightened the thing out and I'm back up as Midnight Ramblers BBQ, and JD has Left Hand Smoke under his name with his South Paw BBQ as a link and they are working on being able to add more team members to the pages.
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Unread 01-20-2010, 04:23 PM   #19
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I added you and Rhana to the bio section of LHS...you're back on the team...
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Brian, I agree that a programming change may be needed. I'm just stating what I think has happened and why.

I really think MMA is setting the team pages up to do something cool this season. If they are linking the pages up to the database, the team pages will be automatically able to reflect past results and points.

It looks like the programming was set up based on Member Name (and number), then Team Name - thus, only listing KCBS members and allowing each member to only be listed once. With a number of teams having very similar names, it looks like member name was the best way to make sure the right team got the appropriate points. Unless each team is assigned a separate number then member number (or something to indicate each team in the database) something's gotta give.

How would you list another established team to be part of yours? If my suspicions are correct, I think that would happen from a membership start/renewal level.
TOY is based on the head cooks membership number. So if another person is acting head cook you still need to identify the "real" head cook to get the points. When they started compiling the TOY for 2009 and found all these name problems, etc they went to member number and it was posted on a lot fo boards at the time.
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Right - just cause the member number isn't listed on the page doesn't mean it isn't the key to the puzzle that would allow for point listings on team pages.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 12:57 AM   #22
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TOY is based on the head cooks membership number. So if another person is acting head cook you still need to identify the "real" head cook to get the points. When they started compiling the TOY for 2009 and found all these name problems, etc they went to member number and it was posted on a lot fo boards at the time.
This designated "head cook" has always bothered me...why does there have to be one person listed as head cook? Most of the teams are just that..."teams". Instead of TOY honors perhaps it should be HCOY... For those folks flyin' solo it's understandable...it's your gig. But for the folks who actually count on their teammates for wins I feel it is a slight to the rest of the members.

A perfect example is our team "Left Hand Smoke". If I am listed a head cook because the team is listed under my KCBS number then Brian will not get any credit for TOY points. Granted...we do not compete in many (if any) KCBS events out here...but if we ever do I feel it would be a grave injustice to his invaluable contributions to our team.

It just doesn't seem that complicated to me...I totally do not understand the rationale behind only being able to belong to one team per membership...and not being listed on any other team at the peril of losing your current team.

If it is a truly a TOY rating thing...then rate the "TEAM"...whoever and however many KCBS members there are on it.

I'll get off my soapbox now...
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This designated "head cook" has always bothered me...why does there have to be one person listed as head cook? Most of the teams are just that..."teams". Instead of TOY honors perhaps it should be HCOY... For those folks flyin' solo it's understandable...it's your gig. But for the folks who actually count on their teammates for wins I feel it is a slight to the rest of the members.

A perfect example is our team "Left Hand Smoke". If I am listed a head cook because the team is listed under my KCBS number then Brian will not get any credit for TOY points. Granted...we do not compete in many (if any) KCBS events out here...but if we ever do I feel it would be a grave injustice to his invaluable contributions to our team.

It just doesn't seem that complicated to me...I totally do not understand the rationale behind only being able to belong to one team per membership...and not being listed on any other team at the peril of losing your current team.

If it is a truly a TOY rating thing...then rate the "TEAM"...whoever and however many KCBS members there are on it.

I'll get off my soapbox now...
I'm with you on this, Rob and I split everything 50/50, he's cooking two categories as am I. We split our costs, entry fees, etc. and have started to list both of us as head cooks. When we do contests we walk for what we cook and if we ever place as a team, the team goes up.

If we ever compete solo, why shouldn't the points the team gets for that weekend count towards the team total for TOY, regardless if it was Rob or I doing it? I'd be using some of the items the entire team uses, just happen to be solo that weekend.
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If we ever compete solo, why shouldn't the points the team gets for that weekend count towards the team total for TOY, regardless if it was Rob or I doing it? I'd be using some of the items the entire team uses, just happen to be solo that weekend.
It would if you are signing up to cook under the same team name.
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I suppose I better go see if I am booted or not.... I have my own team, and I help out another one a LOT. I do abt 2 KCBS a year and don't care where I sit in relation to the points. I do it just for the fun of it. Now, my buddy I help out, likes the points, so I don't mind helping him out. I get to go to more events, and he gets "free" help... it's a win, win for him....
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Guess I will have to wait until they finish doing what they are doing... all I get it this:

Fatal error: Call to undefined method JException::getEscaped() in /var/www/vhosts/kcbs.us/httpdocs/teams.php on line 183
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our bio has an old team member listed all of a sudden.
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