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is One Chatty Farker
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Bear with me here as I have NOT thought this through much...
You may be aware of microcredit, and microfinancing. Essentially, microcredit is the issuing of VERY VERY small loans on favourable terms to very small enterprises in order to get them running in the most basic sense, usually in a "self employed" context. They are generally exclusive to very poor people in developing countries, who would normally not have access to credit because of a lack of credit history, no assets, or no traditional banking in the area. In their current form, a lot of microcredit is extended via on line transactions, or arrangements. Why Am I talking about small loans to developing countries on a BBQ forum? I see a lot of parallels between "amatuer" BBQ competitors and the benefactors of microcredit. We all know that securing sponsorship funds can really help soften the financial burden we face as competitors. And we also know that in many ways, that financial burden is in and of itself a barrier to entry for competing in the first place. Understandably, most sponsors expect some sort of benefit or payback. They also know their paypack is much higher with a more succesful and established team. Therefore, sponsors will (again understandably) expect a track record of performance before committing significant funding. There is the Catch-22. What I am trying to figure out is a way to translate the principles of microcredit to BBQ sponsorship. As a competitor, would you be willing to pony up a few bucks, not for your own team, but for a fellow BBQer in return for a percent of their prize money?
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somebody shut me the fark up.
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I like the idea off the top of my head but I need to think about it... I guess my first issue is that it's going to take a bunch of $20 sponsorships to really make a dent in a $500-$750 contest bill.....
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is One Chatty Farker
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And as a reminder, the whole goal with a micro sponsorship is to soften the cost for a cooker that wants to get started in or be comfortable with committing to 3 or 4 contests. It might be enough to move someone from the "can't or won't" camp in to the "Sign me up for three" group. I am a little suprised more people have not chimed in to say this is a weird/ridiculous/terrible idea.
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somebody shut me the fark up.
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I guess we are the only weird ones around... LOL
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is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 06-02-08
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Just stop by my booth and for $10, I'll hook you up with a nice plate full of BBQ
And anything else that makes it's way back home with me, I'm selling to some co-workers and neighbors. Oh...and then there's the issue of "how many teams are profitable?" Using Divemaster's example of $500 to $750 contest bill...you gotta get a lot of calls to make a profit and/or win Grand or Reserve Champ.
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is One Chatty Farker
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In the poker world, this is similar to having 'pieces' of other players.
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somebody shut me the fark up.
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I wish I could say that we are a break even team... We have a couple of sponsorships that are going to come in handy this season...
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Take a breath!
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As a team, last year we did 7 contests, walking in 5, one RGC and one GC. If I understand it correctly and were to take the equation ($50 for a 5% share) in previous posts, the "sponsor" would have not only broke even, but almost tripled their initial investment.
Interesting idea, wonder how some of the other teams see this? |
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is One Chatty Farker
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If it seems the payout is too micro sponsor heavy, there are ways to cap or neutralize it, but there should be a fundamental reard for sticking money out there on an 'unproven'.
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Take a breath!
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Thanks! We're talking about Gross winnings here, it would be alot different if expenses, due outs were deducted from that winning total. I would be no where close to the break even level at that point.
Where it could get dicey, would be when you add more "sponsors" to the equation. Take my example for instance, I used only one. If you were to add 4 more, I would have to distribute 25% (5 sponsors) of my winnings, while only taking in $250, which is one entry fee. There would have to be some sort of balance. |
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I think you're on the right track. I was thinking about something similar but offering the sponsor their choice of a percentage of gross winnings or a catered event worth a percentage of the contribution.
I haven't thought it out yet but need to.
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somebody shut me the fark up.
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Again the thing to remember is if you don't have the correct licensing, you could really be opening yourself up for a law suit... I think it's better to go with the cold, hard, cash unless you can work out of their kitchen using their license....
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is One Chatty Farker
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TK, what you are describing (with the catered event) is aking to a "real" sponsorship, and is of course a good idea. However, the novelty of Microsponsorship is that it intended to bring smaller funding from many people, who are far away from each other or the competition team.
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