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Unread 11-01-2009, 06:48 PM   #31
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I will certainly be voting for Barb Milroy!
No offense, but that's not very helpful. Why are you voting for Barb and why would you encourage others to do the same?

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No offense, but that's not very helpful. Why are you voting for Barb and why would you encourage others to do the same?

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Maybe you need to learn more about Barb and Bill. Barb has one of my votes and I encourage all seruious cooks and others to vote for her. A successful business partner with Bill in the BBQ industry and a top notch cooking team. Anybody that has been competing seriously for a few years should know them.

I also support Mike Lake and Joe Amore and I think they bring necessary qualifications to the BOD. I'm open on my fourth vote. I personally think that Paul Kirk will still pull enough votes to get in and truth is while I'd like to see more reports Paul is a competition cook, an successful restaurant owner and one of the original KCBS gang. If he's elected I'll be fine with it. I like Jeff from Big Creek for a lot of his opinions but must remember he has one vote out of 12. So vote #4 is open now.

Hopefully it will be a good campaign and we'll look at all aspects and not react to rumor and slander.
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Maybe you need to learn more about Barb and Bill. Barb has one of my votes and I encourage all seruious cooks and others to vote for her. A successful business partner with Bill in the BBQ industry and a top notch cooking team. Anybody that has been competing seriously for a few years should know them.

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Ford - I think that's partially Eric's point.. Aside from an ad in the Bullsheet, it's hard to know everyone.. While I know the Milroy name from their Rib Ranger contest victories and sauces/rubs, I've not met her. Remember, not all KCBS members are long time vets, travel across the country etc. Personal recommendations from those we know are a good start, but supporting info explaining why they would make a great BOD member (aside from being good team) would also be helpful when you don't know someone personally.
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As for the parsley ban, I'm not sure how word could have been spread much earlier. I know it hit the Internet and spread like wildfire. KCBS must have a list of all organizers' emails and phone numbers. If it's just for one weekend, it shouldn't have been a big deal to make phone calls as soon as it was known. Then, it has to be on the organizers (which I am one myself) to contact their teams with the news. I think I always do a great job in keeping lines of communication open and as such, I would not have had a problem making 50 phone calls or dividing them up amongst our committee. That all being said, I believe the board members who had no say in determining the ban should not have been left out. No quorum, no official decision! Again, with the technology today, make it happen!

Jeff I'm not sure if you remember but many people took issue with the parsley ban because the KCBS was compromising integrity by have a mid season rule change. Should the sanctioning body compromise itself due to a public health issue best handled by the BOH?
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Jeff I'm not sure if you remember but many people took issue with the parsley ban because the KCBS was compromising integrity by have a mid season rule change. Should the sanctioning body compromise itself due to a public health issue best handled by the BOH?
Hi Skip... as I understood it, the question was in regards to communicating the decision only. Of course any decision needs to be communicated well. While it was not the proper decision IMHO, the communication seemed to be pretty decent. One of the big issues on my platform is not allowing mid-season rule changes. In fact, I would prefer having longer than a few months to make a change effective for two reasons: 1. the "season" begins at different times of the year in different parts of the country and 2. allowing a year or better before implementing rule changes allows everyone to become familiar with the change and to prepare for it, especially if it effects our process at contests. For example, if rules are discussed at the January Rules meeting at the banquet, they would likely be discussed by the Board over the next two months or so. Even if approved I would never want something approved to begin that spring when a majority of the country is just getting ready for the season! It should be January 1 of the following year so we all know it's coming and can prepare for it.
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Ford - I think that's partially Eric's point.. Aside from an ad in the Bullsheet, it's hard to know everyone.. While I know the Milroy name from their Rib Ranger contest victories and sauces/rubs, I've not met her. Remember, not all KCBS members are long time vets, travel across the country etc. Personal recommendations from those we know are a good start, but supporting info explaining why they would make a great BOD member (aside from being good team) would also be helpful when you don't know someone personally.
Bottom line is I support her. I see no need to explain why or why I don't support somebody else. I made a personal recommendation on this board. There are many excellent candidates ad that's why I said #4 is up for grabs. It's one of many Boards. In the end I doubt that 1000 KCBS members are on this Board and many won't vote or Phil would be on the Board today. With over 12,000 members this electionswill be won by individuals that try to go to contests and try to get their message out to members. But in the end probably 75% of KCBS members will only know the candidates by their Bullsheet write up and their reputation.

I'll be glad to speak offline with anybody about why I support certain people but don't see myself having that discussion in this forum.
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No offense, but that's not very helpful. Why are you voting for Barb and why would you encourage others to do the same?

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No offense taken. Here are my thoughts:

I discovered yesterday, to my joy, that Barb Milroy is a candidate for the 2010 KCBS Board of Directors. She has my complete support – as meaningless as that may be. I have had no conversation with Barb about her candidacy and I am writing this letter without her knowledge.

It would be enough form me that Barb and Bill have been active in competition barbeque for nearly two decades. It would be enough for me that Barb, as part of the Texas Rib Rangers, received a perfect score for sauce at the Jack Daniels Invitational. It would be enough for me that Barb has been an ambassador for the sport and culture of BBQ on such media outlets as the Food Network, The Discovery Channel, and CNN – to name a few.

However, what compels me to support Barb, and ask for your support of her candidacy, is her commitment to the future of competition BBQ. I know from personal experience Barb’s willingness to mentor new cooks and potential teams as they prepare to enter the world of KCBS sanctioned BBQ competitions. Barb and Bill personally hosted me during the 2008 Iowa State BBQ Championship and allowed me to witness their entire production. Barb sat me down and showed me how to trim chicken, prepare brisket, choose the proper ribs and prep pork butt. She also allowed me to watch as she prepared turn-in boxes (which she allowed me to film and post on youtube).
As I prepare for my third season as a competition BBQ cook I have come to realize how unique her generosity was and it shows me that Barb has a commitment to BBQ and the KCBS that goes well beyond any selfish need to be the best. She is a true ambassador, mentor, and diplomat and the members of KCBS would be better off with her in a leadership position.

Barb’s participation in competition BBQ gives her an understanding of the history of the sport and of KCBS, her continued participation gives her full knowledge of the issues currently facing the KCBS, and her mentoring spirit show her commitment to the future of our sport. I encourage you all to support her with your vote, just as she has supported our sport all the years.
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Thanks! I appreciate the background. She sounds like an excellent candidate.

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No offense taken. Here are my thoughts:

I discovered yesterday, to my joy, that Barb Milroy is a candidate for the 2010 KCBS Board of Directors. She has my complete support – as meaningless as that may be. I have had no conversation with Barb about her candidacy and I am writing this letter without her knowledge.

It would be enough form me that Barb and Bill have been active in competition barbeque for nearly two decades. It would be enough for me that Barb, as part of the Texas Rib Rangers, received a perfect score for sauce at the Jack Daniels Invitational. It would be enough for me that Barb has been an ambassador for the sport and culture of BBQ on such media outlets as the Food Network, The Discovery Channel, and CNN – to name a few.

However, what compels me to support Barb, and ask for your support of her candidacy, is her commitment to the future of competition BBQ. I know from personal experience Barb’s willingness to mentor new cooks and potential teams as they prepare to enter the world of KCBS sanctioned BBQ competitions. Barb and Bill personally hosted me during the 2008 Iowa State BBQ Championship and allowed me to witness their entire production. Barb sat me down and showed me how to trim chicken, prepare brisket, choose the proper ribs and prep pork butt. She also allowed me to watch as she prepared turn-in boxes (which she allowed me to film and post on youtube).
As I prepare for my third season as a competition BBQ cook I have come to realize how unique her generosity was and it shows me that Barb has a commitment to BBQ and the KCBS that goes well beyond any selfish need to be the best. She is a true ambassador, mentor, and diplomat and the members of KCBS would be better off with her in a leadership position.

Barb’s participation in competition BBQ gives her an understanding of the history of the sport and of KCBS, her continued participation gives her full knowledge of the issues currently facing the KCBS, and her mentoring spirit show her commitment to the future of our sport. I encourage you all to support her with your vote, just as she has supported our sport all the years.
Your third paragraph is NOT "enough for me". Success and tenure alone are not enough for me. I see two BOD members today with resumes as long as many of us put together that are as worthless as they come.

Your fourth paragraph IS "enough for me". I want someone who is involved... really involved at the competition level. This can be a cook, an organizer, a rep, or... maybe... a judge, but I think the first three are very important. A good BOD member must, must, must know what it is like to be a part of a contest in today's post modern comp BBQ age. I want someone who has the interests of others in mind more than themselves, or at least as much.

I don't know Barb, contrary to Ford's statement that anyone who's been seriously involved in BBQ should know her. I know OF her. I know of their team. I know of their history. I don't know her or anything about her. Your endorsement from paragraph 4 has my attention. Thank you for that.

My advise to voters is be careful to vote for someone because they are well known. Make sure you know that there is substance behind the name. We've voted some poor BOD members into office in the past because they were well known. Look at the record for a track record.
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I have my ballot narrowed down to 6....are we sure we can't elect 6? :)
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Not saying that being a cook is the only qualification for the job, but I thought it was interesting that they all have a team name. All information was derived from The Pickled Pig since I can't get this information easily from the KCBS Website or from invitational contests, which Pickled Pig doesn't track.

Just for sake of interesting facts... nothing more. Here are the number of 2009 contests by Team. I know for a fact that Bunny and Linda do cook. Bunny has cooked with other teams this year and not under her own team name. So we do have at least a half dozen 2009 KCBS contests under the belts of almost all of these candidates. That's a good thing.

26 - Joe Amore Smoky Mountain Smokers Sevierville, TN

6 - Randy Bigler JC’s Pit Crew Huntsville, AL
4 - John Kirby Backyard Burners Baltimore, MD
2 (as Chef Use Ta Was... none under The Baron of BBQ) - *Paul Kirk The Baron and his Pitmasters Roeland Park, KS
8 (including Qlossal)- *Mike Lake Rock River BBQ Shannon, Il
11 - Barb Milroy Texas Rib Rangers Denton, TX
None that I could find - *Linda Mullane Pig Daddy’s BBQ Williamstown, NJ
7 - Jim Stancil Bare Knuckles BBQ Oxford, GA
7 - (including GAB Invitational)Jeff Stith Big Creek BBQ Pleasant Hill, MO
None that I could find under their team - Bunny Tuttle KCass BBQ Pleasant Hill, MO
15 (including the Royal Invitational) - Candy Weaver BBQR’S Delight Pine Bluff, AR
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Plowboy,

A good BOD member must have a clear mind and support all its members and most of all not have a agenda coming into the position. Looking at just the names you mentioned two of them will be running with a agenda already and that is sad!!! Guess that means they will not get my votes?

With more info over the next few weeks we will find out more to help us in our selections! I am down to 5 people now, most likely only vote for 2 or 3 though.

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Not saying that being a cook is the only qualification for the job, but I thought it was interesting that they all have a team name. All information was derived from The Pickled Pig since I can't get this information easily from the KCBS Website or from invitational contests, which Pickled Pig doesn't track.

Just for sake of interesting facts... nothing more. Here are the number of 2009 contests by Team. I know for a fact that Bunny and Linda do cook. Bunny has cooked with other teams this year and not under her own team name. So we do have at least a half dozen 2009 KCBS contests under the belts of almost all of these candidates. That's a good thing.

26 - Joe Amore Smoky Mountain Smokers Sevierville, TN
6 - Randy Bigler JC’s Pit Crew Huntsville, AL
4 - John Kirby Backyard Burners Baltimore, MD
2 (as Chef Use Ta Was... none under The Baron of BBQ) - *Paul Kirk The Baron and his Pitmasters Roeland Park, KS
8 (including Qlossal)- *Mike Lake Rock River BBQ Shannon, Il
11 - Barb Milroy Texas Rib Rangers Denton, TX
None that I could find - *Linda Mullane Pig Daddy’s BBQ Williamstown, NJ
7 - Jim Stancil Bare Knuckles BBQ Oxford, GA
7 - (including GAB Invitational)Jeff Stith Big Creek BBQ Pleasant Hill, MO
None that I could find under their team - Bunny Tuttle KCass BBQ Pleasant Hill, MO
15 (including the Royal Invitational) - Candy Weaver BBQR’S Delight Pine Bluff, AR
Todd,
We did cook the Sprint center, cooked with Ribs a Rockin in Stagecoach CA for a two KCBS contest and IBCA and one in Harrisonville with Big Creek. This was actually our first year we didn't cook much. It was a first and missed it a lot!
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We did cook the Sprint center, cooked with Ribs a Rockin in Stagecoach CA for a two KCBS contest and IBCA and one in Harrisonville with Big Creek. This was actually our first year we didn't cook much. It was a first and missed it a lot!
I knew you had cooked a few this year cause I'd been seeing you out there.

The other thing about Bunny that folks should know is that when she isn't cooking or Rep'ing or volunteering, she's at contests hanging out. Bunny's been doing this for many years and has been all over the country. She has her finger on the pulse of what's happening out at the contests. Those are the kinds of people I want in the board room.
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Simple question:

For all the candidates running for the board how about a quick 50 words or less about why you are running for the board, what you dont like about the current affairs of KCBS and how you would do to change them if elected. Also with a yes / no answer would you make the meetings open to all members through a streaming podcast like listening to a radio station on the internet?

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