Super WSM

michiana mark · 03-27-2008, 01:35 AM

Stopped in at the local Weber dealer today, got to talking about WSM. He says they have revised the legs on the standard one. Also they are going to market a 22.5" version. A Weber UDS, probably pretty pricey.

Bigmista · 03-27-2008, 01:37 AM

Will the Big WSM rumor ever die?

BBQ Grail · 03-27-2008, 01:47 AM

I think this is why we have the "no pictures...didn't happen (doesn't exist) rule!

bigabyte · 03-27-2008, 08:38 AM

Not again.

Bbq Bubba · 03-27-2008, 08:57 AM

Salesman is full of dodo

Mokin Bandit · 03-27-2008, 09:29 AM

I'd buy one! Where are they?

Harbormaster · 03-27-2008, 10:13 AM

There's been rumors about the super WSM ever since I got one. I'll believe it when I see it.

Sledneck · 03-27-2008, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbormaster

There's been rumors about the super WSM ever since I got one. I'll believe it when I see it.

Here it is:

KC_Bobby · 03-27-2008, 11:04 AM

So simple, yet so difficult.

I'd guess that Weber's research has shown that developing a 22.5" bullet will either or both:
- not sell for the price they need to market to get the same mark up as the 18.5"
- cut sales of the 18.5" bullet that it drops the overall profit margin of their smokers

Let's see what the rack space difference would be between the two:
To get the area of a circle take the radius squared and multiply by 3.14.
18.5" - 9.25x9.25x3.14x2=537.33 sq inches
22.5" - 11.25x11.25x3.14x2=794.81 sq inches

That's 257.48 more sq inches of rack space - nearly one more full rack compared to the current 18.5" bullet. It seems as if Weber's suggested retail price for the bullet is $249, which is 46 cents per sq inch. Using the same price per sq inch, would Q'ers be willing to spend $365 retail for the larger model? I don't know, but if so, it may cut into Q'ers buying only one rather than two bullets which could still drop the overall profit margin.

How about a 25" diameter Super Bullet?

That's over 980 sq inches on two racks!

The Giggler · 03-27-2008, 11:11 AM

With the BOOM is bbq and outdoor cooking, it really amazes me that they don't seem interested in this market. I love the WSM, and would buy a bigger one if it was on the market.

JD McGee · 03-27-2008, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Giggler

With the BOOM is bbq and outdoor cooking, it really amazes me that they don't seem interested in this market. I love the WSM, and would buy a bigger one if it was on the market.

Wait no longer folks...the "Big Green Drum" (WSM Clone) is in the works and can be yours for the low low price of...however much you want to spend to build it yourself!

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=39704

BBQ Grail · 03-27-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Bobby

So simple, yet so difficult.

I'd guess that Weber's research has shown that developing a 22.5" bullet will either or both:
- not sell for the price they need to market to get the same mark up as the 18.5"
- cut sales of the 18.5" bullet that it drops the overall profit margin of their smokers

Let's see what the rack space difference would be between the two:
To get the area of a circle take the radius squared and multiply by 3.14.
18.5" - 9.25x9.25x3.14x2=537.33 sq inches
22.5" - 11.25x11.25x3.14x2=794.81 sq inches

That's 257.48 more sq inches of rack space - nearly one more full rack compared to the current 18.5" bullet. It seems as if Weber's suggested retail price for the bullet is $249, which is 46 cents per sq inch. Using the same price per sq inch, would Q'ers be willing to spend $365 retail for the larger model? I don't know, but if so, it may cut into Q'ers buying only one rather than two bullets which could still drop the overall profit margin.

How about a 25" diameter Super Bullet?

That's over 980 sq inches on two racks!

You make a lot of sense on this one.

big brother smoke · 03-27-2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Bobby

So simple, yet so difficult.

I'd guess that Weber's research has shown that developing a 22.5" bullet will either or both:
- not sell for the price they need to market to get the same mark up as the 18.5"
- cut sales of the 18.5" bullet that it drops the overall profit margin of their smokers

Let's see what the rack space difference would be between the two:
To get the area of a circle take the radius squared and multiply by 3.14.
18.5" - 9.25x9.25x3.14x2=537.33 sq inches
22.5" - 11.25x11.25x3.14x2=794.81 sq inches

That's 257.48 more sq inches of rack space - nearly one more full rack compared to the current 18.5" bullet. It seems as if Weber's suggested retail price for the bullet is $249, which is 46 cents per sq inch. Using the same price per sq inch, would Q'ers be willing to spend $365 retail for the larger model? I don't know, but if so, it may cut into Q'ers buying only one rather than two bullets which could still drop the overall profit margin.

How about a 25" diameter Super Bullet?

That's over 980 sq inches on two racks!

What kind of coffee you have this morning

scott millman · 03-27-2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Bobby

So simple, yet so difficult.

I'd guess that Weber's research has shown that developing a 22.5" bullet will either or both:
- not sell for the price they need to market to get the same mark up as the 18.5"
- cut sales of the 18.5" bullet that it drops the overall profit margin of their smokers

Let's see what the rack space difference would be between the two:
To get the area of a circle take the radius squared and multiply by 3.14.
18.5" - 9.25x9.25x3.14x2=537.33 sq inches
22.5" - 11.25x11.25x3.14x2=794.81 sq inches

That's 257.48 more sq inches of rack space - nearly one more full rack compared to the current 18.5" bullet. It seems as if Weber's suggested retail price for the bullet is $249, which is 46 cents per sq inch. Using the same price per sq inch, would Q'ers be willing to spend $365 retail for the larger model? I don't know, but if so, it may cut into Q'ers buying only one rather than two bullets which could still drop the overall profit margin.

How about a 25" diameter Super Bullet?

That's over 980 sq inches on two racks!

HUH?....Bobby can you throw some numbers together on the UCLA/ Western Kentucky game tonight so I know whether to take the over or under?

Pig Headed · 03-27-2008, 12:47 PM

The Pro Q Excel 20 seems to be the best bet for now. A 20" WSM clone with upgrades. They also sell a WSM stacker unit that will add another portion to an existing WSM. They will be available by May 1st, I think. A store in PA called Freds Music & BBQ will be the distributor I believe.

http://www.fredsmusicandbbq.com/

03-27-2008, 01:35 AM	#1
michiana mark is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 04-28-07 Location: Elkhart IN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Super WSM Stopped in at the local Weber dealer today, got to talking about WSM. He says they have revised the legs on the standard one. Also they are going to market a 22.5" version. A Weber UDS, probably pretty pricey. __________________ Looking for the truth, in the thin blue smoke Weber Silver 22.5X2, UDSx2 KCBS-CBJ #16571, Member GLBBQA Roadmaster BBQ comp team Proud member of the Blue Thermapen Association Certified MOINKballer Class of 2008

03-27-2008, 01:37 AM	#2
Bigmista somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-24-04 Location: Long Beach, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Will the Big WSM rumor ever die? __________________ Wait! Bigmista wrote a cookbook? Exodus 29:18 Then burn the entire ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the LORD. God loves BBQ! Bigmista Custom Spicewine Trailer - Olivia J. PIMA Large and Medium Spicewines Weber Ranch Kettle - E.T. Remembering Scott

03-27-2008, 01:47 AM	#3
BBQ Grail somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Rocklin, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think this is why we have the "no pictures...didn't happen (doesn't exist) rule! __________________ Larry The best way to reach me is with email: larry@thebbqgrail.com

03-27-2008, 08:38 AM	#4
bigabyte somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-10-06 Location: Overland Fark, KS Downloads: 1 Uploads: 1	Not again. __________________ Chris Baker For great food and and an even better time join the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns *First ever recipient of the Silverfinger Award!* Yes, I own a whole bunch of BBQ crap also. *Certified MOINK Baller & IMBAS Certified MOINK Ball Judge #0003 - Get your MOINK Certification today!* The Secret Squirrel Society doesn't exist - Zero Club member

03-27-2008, 10:13 AM	#7
Harbormaster Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-14-06 Location: Wyocena, WI Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There's been rumors about the super WSM ever since I got one. I'll believe it when I see it. __________________ Clark My Boys: Joseph (EI); Andrew (EE); Daniel (EE) My Toys: 10 WSMs (B, C, DH, DA, EZ, DZ, EO, DU, DR, EE/DU mutt); Brinkman Cimmaron; Chuckwagon Cooker; 22.5" OTG (DT); Two 22.5" Bar-B-Kettles; One 18.5" Bar-B-Kettle; Smokey Joes (A, K); Genesis Silver C (DU); 3 WGAs (EZ, DE, N); 3 SJPs (DT, DU, DR). "For when democracy becomes tyranny, those of us with rifles still get to vote"

03-27-2008, 09:29 AM	#6
Mokin Bandit On the road to being a farker Join Date: 03-05-08 Location: Olathe, Ks Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd buy one! Where are they?

03-27-2008, 11:04 AM	#9
KC_Bobby Babbling Farker Join Date: 05-03-07 Location: Gardner KS Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So simple, yet so difficult. I'd guess that Weber's research has shown that developing a 22.5" bullet will either or both: - not sell for the price they need to market to get the same mark up as the 18.5" - cut sales of the 18.5" bullet that it drops the overall profit margin of their smokers Let's see what the rack space difference would be between the two: To get the area of a circle take the radius squared and multiply by 3.14. 18.5" - 9.25x9.25x3.14x2=537.33 sq inches 22.5" - 11.25x11.25x3.14x2=794.81 sq inches That's 257.48 more sq inches of rack space - nearly one more full rack compared to the current 18.5" bullet. It seems as if Weber's suggested retail price for the bullet is $249, which is 46 cents per sq inch. Using the same price per sq inch, would Q'ers be willing to spend $365 retail for the larger model? I don't know, but if so, it may cut into Q'ers buying only one rather than two bullets which could still drop the overall profit margin. How about a 25" diameter Super Bullet? That's over 980 sq inches on two racks! __________________ Boondoggle BBQ Country Smokers 450 Weber Smokey Mountain 18" Proud KCBS Member & Certified Judge

03-27-2008, 11:11 AM	#10
The Giggler is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-31-07 Location: Boston, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	With the BOOM is bbq and outdoor cooking, it really amazes me that they don't seem interested in this market. I love the WSM, and would buy a bigger one if it was on the market. __________________ Mike C. Competitive Cook-Contest Organizer-Promoter of Smoke and Fire Boston Hills BBQ Fest www.bostonhillsbbqfest.com PROUD to support Great Lakes BBQ Supply - www.greatlakesbbqsupply.com

03-27-2008, 12:47 PM	#15
Pig Headed Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-15-06 Location: Middletown, DE Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The Pro Q Excel 20 seems to be the best bet for now. A 20" WSM clone with upgrades. They also sell a WSM stacker unit that will add another portion to an existing WSM. They will be available by May 1st, I think. A store in PA called Freds Music & BBQ will be the distributor I believe. http://www.fredsmusicandbbq.com/ __________________ Ron Pigheaded BBQ Team www.pigheadedbbq.com KCBS CBJ Stumps Stretch (Raquel) Eagles Green. 1 -22" Weber WSM, 1 - 18"Weber WSM's 2 - 22" kettles 6x12 Haulmark Trailer

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