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Unread 09-16-2009, 12:46 PM   #1
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Default You be the judge

Assume they smell the same, taste the same, and we have only the 1
category anyway, appearance. You be the judge. Judge ONLY the
meat. Dont take anything else (including garnish) into account. Think
to yourself, judging only the meat, score them on "how appetizing is it".
Does it look appetizing? Would it be something that I'd want to eat?


Picture 1:






Ok, now, Picture 2:





It's tough, isn't it? I try hard to be as fair and unbiased as I can
be, but honestly, it's tough not to say that one isn't more appetizing
than another... Mind you, not by a dramatic amount (they all look like
tasty chicken to me), but I think one is slightly more appealing...

Your honest first thought would be appreciated.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 12:48 PM   #2
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Both look good but the Pic 2 would look better with a colored background of some sort! Styrofoam only comes in white though I guess.
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I can't put my finger on it, but they look the same.
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Actually as shown there is no difference. I would score the same but this has the benefit of being propped up by the parsley in both pictures. What would the chicken look like if it was placed lower in the styrofoam. Would it be as neat?
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not to stick ya, Skip BUT...

"being propped up" or "placed lower" matters?

Funny, I thought it was about the meat.
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Maybe I'm wrong. To me, if I look at the pictures independently from one another,
I score one a 9, the other an 8. Personally, as to why, both look very good, but one
looks a little *light*, perhaps not color-rich enough for my personal palate. But,
that's me judging. I'm not trying to skew your opinion either way. Seriously.

Being accustomed to seeing more ungarnished (MIM/MBA), the prop up, IMHO, doesn't
change much if any. However, having a nicely framed piece of meat, framed in a
wonderfully contrasting green color, is . . . . . more appetizing. To me, anyway.
I'll try my hardest to not take it into account, but . . .
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Yeah, for better or worse the green does provide a nice contrast, plus I'm sure you'd be a lot more conscious of the amount of wet sauce on the chicken after seeing how it marks up the sides of a naked box. Interesting comparison.
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Pic 2 9's pic 1 dq temp. rule change.
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This looks much better
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I don't think either is good. The pieces are not uniform and the sauce looks clumpy, especially when compared with the nice sauce job on the "half chicken" shot.

The other problem you have and why this isn't a fair comparison is that you have photoshopped the "greens" out of the second picture instead of replacing them on the plate. By doing this you have placed a black border around the chicken which to the human eye will cause a much more dramatic effect that just having it on the white plate.

With a sauce that is a shade of red it's going to have a much nicer look against the green which is a complimentary color to red. The human eye is going to wash out, especially on an RGB computer screen with the white plate.

But then again what do I know...
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Didnt use photoshop, but ok, I'll take the black out. We'll get less contrast.

For me, I didnt notice the sauce clumpy in the first shot nearly as much as I did
the 2nd. I didnt perceive it as light, either.
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Didnt use photoshop, but ok, I'll take the black out. We'll get less contrast.

For me, I didnt notice the sauce clumpy in the first shot nearly as much as I did
the 2nd. I didnt perceive it as light, either.
Maybe not "photoshop" but the photo was edited, this is what I meant.
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As for the comments about the pieces not being uniform, and the sauce looking clumpy...see why we hate judges?!

The questions were "Does it look appetizing?" and "Does it look like something I'd want to eat?"

My answer to both are "Yes."

As to how the 2 compare to one another, and/or whether the chicken would look better if it were framed by the greens; It's irrelevant if no garnish is allowed.

Of course garnish makes things look better, that's it's purpose, but if nobody is using garnish, then everybody is on a level playing feild.
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As for the comments about the pieces not being uniform, and the sauce looking clumpy...see why we hate judges?!

The questions were "Does it look appetizing?" and "Does it look like something I'd want to eat?"
And my answer to both would be no, for exactly the reasons stated, so no judge-hating over here.
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I'd eat on either one of them. Looks mighty good.......
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