Is this the dreaded lining?

garyk1398 · 08-19-2009, 03:14 PM

Today i picked up a food grade drum and wanted all the drum-heads to chime in as to whether or not this is the dreaded red-lining. It was not like my last drum which was shinny on the inside. This new one almost looks like spray paint is very smooth. It's tan in color almost like the color of a Ken-doll....I know what you are thinking so don't ask!

Worse case scenario...I'm out $18

pat · 08-19-2009, 03:18 PM

I had something similar on an apple juice drum. More red in color. It will burn out but mine took forever.

Divemaster · 08-19-2009, 03:19 PM

Ummmmm..... yep

Trainwreck · 08-19-2009, 03:20 PM

oh yea. good luck, it can be burned out but it takes quite awhile. just when you think you have it all you find a ton more. I had my drum over flowing with oak, flames shooting way up in the air on day one. day 2 wire brushed entire drum and took the weeburner to her brushing as I went along. day 3 same as day 2 and then I finally got it all out.

BBQ Bandit · 08-19-2009, 03:20 PM

Yes... took a weedburner (on high) and blasted the outer paint... the inner liner flaked off from the high heat. Took care of both sides... just oil it soon thereafter.

It will take a while... almost to a "cherry red" hot.

Just do it in sections (wax on, wax off - Miagi mod.)

jswordy · 08-19-2009, 03:49 PM

I had to burn my red-lined one out with wood, then use the weed burner on the outside to get it to turn completely loose. The liner merely changed color (it turned light pink; some go to white), but did not flake off. However, after the barrel had cooled, I hit it with a pressure washer, and it all washed right off -- inside and any left on the outside. At the same time, I also did a clear lined barrel, which turned white, but I wound up hand wire brushing it to get it loosened more so it would wash off.

Bbq Bubba · 08-19-2009, 03:55 PM

You ever think if its that hard to remove, maybe just leave it?

Discuss.

h20loo · 08-19-2009, 04:15 PM

Bubba- I did that with a lined barrel. I let it run at 250 for 10 hrs on a test burn. Other than a little black that could be wiped off it was untouched. The next day I bumped it up to 385 for 5 hrs. Same thing. I'm not a chemical engineer but I have the feeling that its as safe as or safer(lower heat) than the gassers that are lined. BTW- I loaded it with hardwood and tossed it in a huge spruce bough fire and it came out completely burnt off.
I would pay an extra $50 for a new unlined barrel that would save me 3 or 4 hrs and not leave me wondering...

milehigh · 08-19-2009, 04:39 PM

Bubba
I ran a 3 hour HOT burnout on mine and still spent hours with wire brushes getting the paint off. I would have left it alone if i would have known it was baked on that hard.

Paul

Norcoredneck · 08-19-2009, 05:54 PM

Looks like the liner to hate.

Phubar · 08-19-2009, 06:06 PM

Mine has the same kind of color on the inside.
I scrubbed a small spot with sand paper and I think I saw bare metal.
Is that also liner?
Sorry I don't have pics right now and it's too dark for my phone to take pics outside.
I'm eager to know what to do,burn or wirebrush.(don't want to lose the paint on the outside if it's not necessary)

Rookie'48 · 08-19-2009, 11:23 PM

I had the same liner in it & I fought with it for a couple of days until one of my boys sand blasted it for me (old, fat & lazy mod).

garyk1398 · 08-20-2009, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba

You ever think if its that hard to remove, maybe just leave it?

Discuss.

I agree with you Bubba if it is that hard to remove why go to the hasle of trying?

Quote:

Originally Posted by h20loo

Bubba- I did that with a lined barrel. I let it run at 250 for 10 hrs on a test burn. Other than a little black that could be wiped off it was untouched. The next day I bumped it up to 385 for 5 hrs. Same thing. I'm not a chemical engineer but I have the feeling that its as safe as or safer(lower heat) than the gassers that are lined. BTW- I loaded it with hardwood and tossed it in a huge spruce bough fire and it came out completely burnt off.
I would pay an extra $50 for a new unlined barrel that would save me 3 or 4 hrs and not leave me wondering...

If the two burns that you mentioned above didn't phase the liner, just curious as to why you went to the next step of hardwood and spruce?

Crüe-B-Cüe · 08-20-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba

You ever think if its that hard to remove, maybe just leave it?

Discuss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by h20loo

I would pay an extra $50 for a new unlined barrel that would save me 3 or 4 hrs and not leave me wondering...

That's why I bought new drums. I can buy new closed head drums for under $50.

Uncle Buds BBQ · 08-20-2009, 10:18 AM

I wasted 10 lbs of propane in the weed burner and then a day with a high heat burn. Spent 30 mins. with the wire brush and gave up.

Cost me $30 to have it sandblasted clean! Only way to go if you can't get a bare metal drum.

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08-19-2009, 03:14 PM	#1
garyk1398 Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-05-08 Location: South O, Omaha, NE Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is this the dreaded lining? Today i picked up a food grade drum and wanted all the drum-heads to chime in as to whether or not this is the dreaded red-lining. It was not like my last drum which was shinny on the inside. This new one almost looks like spray paint is very smooth. It's tan in color almost like the color of a Ken-doll....I know what you are thinking so don't ask! Worse case scenario...I'm out $18 __________________ Cookshack sm055, UDS, Smokey Joe, Southwest Pit, couple of Weber kettles, an old gasser, and a weed burner. Gary, KCBS -CBJ Certified Nebraska MOINK Baller, KCBS - CBJ Semper Fi, when in doubt empty the magazine Last edited by garyk1398; 12-06-2011 at 08:32 AM..

08-19-2009, 03:18 PM	#2
pat is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 01-21-08 Location: Des Moines, IA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I had something similar on an apple juice drum. More red in color. It will burn out but mine took forever. __________________ Smokers Purgatory Have you tried Simply Marvelous Rubs yet?? Backwoods Party Ole Hickory CTO Large Big Green Egg WSM X 2 Weber Performer

08-19-2009, 03:19 PM	#3
Divemaster somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 09-23-07 Location: North Side of Chicago Illinois Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ummmmm..... yep __________________ Jeff CBJ# 23376 Stockcar BBQ Race Fast, Cook Slow, and Enjoy Life! If it don't come off a smoker, it's just a side dish! Lang 60 Patio (The Mistress), Black Stainless Lang 36 (Little Princess), Large BGE (Ramona), Big Green UDS (Cottage Cooker), Brinkman SnP Pro (Little Bubba-Retired), 8 Burner Gasser, 3 - 22.5" & 1 - 18" (circa 1975) Weber Grills, & a Weber Smoky Joe.

08-19-2009, 03:20 PM	#4
Trainwreck Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 08-25-08 Location: Menomonee Falls, Wi Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	oh yea. good luck, it can be burned out but it takes quite awhile. just when you think you have it all you find a ton more. I had my drum over flowing with oak, flames shooting way up in the air on day one. day 2 wire brushed entire drum and took the weeburner to her brushing as I went along. day 3 same as day 2 and then I finally got it all out. __________________ Andy /Fat Andy's Backyard BBQ/ FEC 100, 2-UDS, 2-Knockoff EGG's, Brinkman snp

08-19-2009, 03:20 PM	#5
BBQ Bandit Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-15-08 Location: Harrisburg, PA Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yes... took a weedburner (on high) and blasted the outer paint... the inner liner flaked off from the high heat. Took care of both sides... just oil it soon thereafter. It will take a while... almost to a "cherry red" hot. Just do it in sections (wax on, wax off - Miagi mod.) __________________ Bacon should be capitalized as a pronoun for pork! A BBQ Servant; cooking for the Troops, Churches, and Charity Operation BBQ Relief founding member Lang 84 Deluxe Kitchen known as "The Glamazon" Custom Klose Backyard Chef... of Snot, 22.5 WSM Former smokers; Lang 60 Mobile - The Damsel II, Lang 48 Patio - The Damsel, and Bubba Keg Grill - RIP

08-19-2009, 03:49 PM	#6
jswordy is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-13-09 Location: Fayetteville, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I had to burn my red-lined one out with wood, then use the weed burner on the outside to get it to turn completely loose. The liner merely changed color (it turned light pink; some go to white), but did not flake off. However, after the barrel had cooled, I hit it with a pressure washer, and it all washed right off -- inside and any left on the outside. At the same time, I also did a clear lined barrel, which turned white, but I wound up hand wire brushing it to get it loosened more so it would wash off. __________________ Double-Barrel Smoker (DBS); Ugly Drum Smoker (UDS)

08-19-2009, 03:55 PM	#7
Bbq Bubba somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-03-07 Location: New Baltimore, Mi. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You ever think if its that hard to remove, maybe just leave it? Discuss.

08-19-2009, 04:15 PM	#8
h20loo is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 01-22-08 Location: waterloo ontario Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bubba- I did that with a lined barrel. I let it run at 250 for 10 hrs on a test burn. Other than a little black that could be wiped off it was untouched. The next day I bumped it up to 385 for 5 hrs. Same thing. I'm not a chemical engineer but I have the feeling that its as safe as or safer(lower heat) than the gassers that are lined. BTW- I loaded it with hardwood and tossed it in a huge spruce bough fire and it came out completely burnt off. I would pay an extra $50 for a new unlined barrel that would save me 3 or 4 hrs and not leave me wondering...

08-19-2009, 04:39 PM	#9
milehigh is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-23-07 Location: Butte MT Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bubba I ran a 3 hour HOT burnout on mine and still spent hours with wire brushes getting the paint off. I would have left it alone if i would have known it was baked on that hard. Paul

08-19-2009, 05:54 PM	#10
Norcoredneck somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-11-06 Location: Norco, Ca. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looks like the liner to hate. __________________ *Low and Slow.....* *The Prontologist is in...* *Ok let's see your Butt!*

08-19-2009, 06:06 PM	#11
Phubar somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-24-09 Location: Utrecht,The NetherPharkinglands Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mine has the same kind of color on the inside. I scrubbed a small spot with sand paper and I think I saw bare metal. Is that also liner? Sorry I don't have pics right now and it's too dark for my phone to take pics outside. I'm eager to know what to do,burn or wirebrush.(don't want to lose the paint on the outside if it's not necessary) __________________ -TG -WGA (3) -UDS (S,M,L) All fueled by Ecobrasa Coco Briquettes Lowland Smokers Dutch BBQ Champion 2011 - 2012 *Lowland Smokers Dutch BBQ Champion 2013 Low 'n Slow

08-19-2009, 11:23 PM	#12
Rookie'48 Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 11-12-06 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I had the same liner in it & I fought with it for a couple of days until one of my boys sand blasted it for me (old, fat & lazy mod). __________________ Dave Compton KCBS MasterCBJ # 22569 KCBS BoD Judges' Advocate Possibly the only judge ever to get an award from a bunch of cooks UDS 075 UCB WSM and a bunch of other stuff. The above post is only my opinion - mine & mine alone.

08-20-2009, 10:18 AM	#15
Uncle Buds BBQ is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-04-09 Location: Marietta, GA Downloads: 1 Uploads: 1	I wasted 10 lbs of propane in the weed burner and then a day with a high heat burn. Spent 30 mins. with the wire brush and gave up. Cost me $30 to have it sandblasted clean! Only way to go if you can't get a bare metal drum. __________________ Dave Pitmaster and KCBS CBJ

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