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Unread 08-01-2009, 09:40 PM   #61
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Unread 08-01-2009, 09:47 PM   #62
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haha, i love this place!!
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I think the topic sort of what NON BBQ items have you put on your smoker that were Excellent.
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Unread 08-01-2009, 10:06 PM   #63
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I seems to me that we are faced with the “problem” that English is a living and growing language. Clamor was once a kind of sword, now it’s expanded to include kind of explosive. Corvette was once a kind of military ship, now it’s expanded to include a kind of car. Mercedes was once a proper name for a girl, now it’s also expanded to include a kind of car, green was once just a color, now it’s expanded to include a movement and a life style. Barbeque may very well once have been just about pork (I don’t know, I wasn’t there); but, it seems to me that it has expanded beyond that.
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Unread 08-01-2009, 10:13 PM   #64
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I am going with Big Al's definition, except substituting my smoker for his.
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Unread 08-01-2009, 10:22 PM   #65
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I seems to me that we are faced with the “problem” that English is a living and growing language. Clamor was once a kind of sword, now it’s expanded to include kind of explosive. Corvette was once a kind of military ship, now it’s expanded to include a kind of car. Mercedes was once a proper name for a girl, now it’s also expanded to include a kind of car, green was once just a color, now it’s expanded to include a movement and a life style. Barbeque may very well once have been just about pork (I don’t know, I wasn’t there); but, it seems to me that it has expanded beyond that.
One look at Spanish as a language and we know that languages evolve, and the BIGGEST influence of how it is used and adapted and morphed is the impact of the people that use it have on it.

English on the other hand is a non-romance language that wants desperately to be one.
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I'm gotta go watch the Primal Grill 2009 episodes before the OL deletes them from the DVR. You guys battle it out! Will check in later when when I need a reality check.
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I'm not afraid to say it....Donnie is my hero.

Oh....and I like the McRib. I don't know what it is.....but it's the kind of thing that I'll eat on Superbowl Sunday along with wings, nachos and pizza rolls.

And then crap like a goose the next day.
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My point is just as I have stated.

BBQ is an act, a verb. For a couple of hundred years when people said let's eat BBQ, they meant pulled pork. I guess you could say that they were wrong using the term in that manner. I am not really arguing that. I am just saying that traditionally, BBQ is pork. Only in the past few decades has BBQ been anything other than that. Not so hard to grasp really.
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Classic! Is there anything you can't smoke? Though, in a state of mind influenced by the agave plant, I made the horrible mistake of trying one of the Mac n Don's Supper Club's new Angus (cough cough) burgers. So wrong. Really, Even in my "condition," I couldn't finish it.
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My point is just as I have stated.

BBQ is an act, a verb. For a couple of hundred years when people said let's eat BBQ, they meant pulled pork. I guess you could say that they were wrong using the term in that manner. I am not really arguing that. I am just saying that traditionally, BBQ is pork. Only in the past few decades has BBQ been anything other than that. Not so hard to grasp really.
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I am not a greenhorn. I am not new to this at all. It is wrong to make the assumption that just because I recently happened across this forum that I just started cooking using traditional methods. I have simply just started using the UDS. Previously, we always built pits temporarily. Cinder blocks, tin and re bar. Works great, labor intensive but easy and cheap. So not a greenhorn. You should stop with the personal attacks. Most of what I have stated is history. Most of what I keep getting back is opinion. They don't mix well.

I didn't get all my knowledge from the internet either and I resent the insinuation. Records from the first Spanish forays into the new world are housed at the University of Florida at Gainesville. You can get access to them if you have a scholarly interest I am sure. I had someone who was functional in 16th century Spanish translate some things for me several years back while I was working on a Native American history project for the local university.
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I am not a greenhorn. I am not new to this at all. It is wrong to make the assumption that just because I recently happened across this forum that I just started cooking using traditional methods. I have simply just started using the UDS. Previously, we always built pits temporarily. Cinder blocks, tin and re bar. Works great, labor intensive but easy and cheap. So not a greenhorn. You should stop with the personal attacks. Most of what I have stated is history. Most of what I keep getting back is opinion. They don't mix well.

I didn't get all my knowledge from the internet either and I resent the insinuation. Records from the first Spanish forays into the new world are housed at the University of Florida at Gainesville. You can get access to them if you have a scholarly interest I am sure. I had someone who was functional in 16th century Spanish translate some things for me several years back while I was working on a Native American history project for the local university.
Amen - we're all here to share and learn. Nice to see another FL presence by the way!
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My point is just as I have stated.

BBQ is an act, a verb. For a couple of hundred years when people said let's eat BBQ, they meant pulled pork. I guess you could say that they were wrong using the term in that manner. I am not really arguing that. I am just saying that traditionally, BBQ is pork. Only in the past few decades has BBQ been anything other than that. Not so hard to grasp really.
Please stop repeating the same old stale statement and provide us with some references. You know, real books and/or other accepted authorities as others have done that support your statements, not simple repetition of something that apparently, judging from the complete lack of folks willing to back you up here, is only in your particular belief system.

If it is traditional, as you have repeatedly stated, surely you can back that up with some authoritative facts that don't scream "I told you, so therefore it must be true". You aren't old enough to speak of a 300 year old tradition from personal experience; show us the facts if you want us to change our minds.
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Amen - we're all here to share and learn. Nice to see another FL presence by the way!
Thanks I'm not in Florida anymore, I'm back in SC now. But if I couldn't be here, I would love to be there.

Zydeco,
Are Webster's Dictionary and the Oxford English dictionary not real books? See this is why I think this is a gang up party. You must not have even read what I posted earlier. Seems like you're just jumping on the bandwagon. I have presented facts and their sources.
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Some people make quite the first impression!

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