Food Network, Why Do I Try?

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 09:49 PM

As some of you know, I have had an ongoing battle with the Food Network. I have created some videos for them that have been the most viewed and most rated on their site, yet ultimately they pick some actor to be on Grill It with Bobby Flay or other show.

Most recently they had a Washington State wine contest from which 20 of the 100 videos would be opened for public voting.

I created an original recipe from scratch, figured out how to cook it on the grill and filmed it all by hand. Am I just being pissy or am I being singled out?

http://www.ireport.com/docs... versus http://tinyurl.com/kpww9k ?
Seriously? I keep thinking that I can go on with a brethren t-shirt, talk about what bbq really is, and make the network a little more interesting but its getting a little tiring. Why try?

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 10:04 PM

Just so folks know, here's the criteria used to select the second video over mine. I'm tired of wasting my time.

How well the Washington State ingredient(s) was used
How well the recipe pairs with the Columbia Crest Grand Estates wine that served as its inspiration
Overall quality of recipe
Originality
How well the dish was showcased in the video

swamprb · 06-18-2009, 10:08 PM

Lose the hat, shades and SIDE banner. Don't try to show Bobby Flay up or "talk about what BBQ really is", because it would actually be interesting! The audience is not Brethren that the Food Network is targeting, you do great stuff, and we know it, so you may have to actaully "dumb down to the audience".

Redwingsfn31 · 06-18-2009, 10:10 PM

The one thing I have learned about food network, is there has definately been a switch in priorities. It happened back in about 2002. The network really moved the focus away from the food, and toward personalities. They slowly and sytematically got rid of alot of good chefs, and replaced them with talking heads. They wanted to sell merchandise and diversify their revenu streams and this was their way of doing it. I to this day dont like and rarely watch the channel any more.

MilitantSquatter · 06-18-2009, 10:20 PM

Doubt your being singled out...

Sure it's frustrating.. but what's the motivation to keep submitting entries ?

If your having fun.. do it for that reason.. or change it up a bit and make some videos for grilling and BBQ and begin trying to market them online and through the online food community. This way you continue to put your love of cooking and video making together to help others improve.

If you really wanna win.. I think you should invest $5-$10K in a really good boob job and a wig of long blonde hair and get a really cute accent and softer voice... Bobby might take more interest in you..(maybe Cat too

.. and I bet Giada and Rachel would dabble with a little wine)

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb

Lose the hat, shades and SIDE banner. Don't try to show Bobby Flay up or "talk about what BBQ really is", because it would actually be interesting! The audience is not Brethren that the Food Network is targeting, you do great stuff, and we know it, so you may have to actaully "dumb down to the audience".

Thats great advice moving forward, Brian, though I've tried the no hat hat and glasses approach. My biggest problem is that I need to maximize each video shoot so not having my logo in there is tough. And I know food network is going to screw me constantly so I shoot video so its applicable to hundreds of foreign websites.

That said, I need to change something when this vegan woman who met absolutely none of the five criteria is a finalist. Seems like I wasted my time for something pre-determined.

Sledneck · 06-18-2009, 10:29 PM

Why dont you come up with a recipe and have somebody else do it, maybe your wife?

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilitantSquatter

Doubt your being singled out...

Sure it's frustrating.. but what's the motivation to keep submitting entries ?

If your having fun.. do it for that reason.. or change it up a bit and make some videos for grilling and BBQ and begin trying to market them online and through the online food community. This way you continue to put your love of cooking and video making together to help others improve.

If you really wanna win.. I think you should invest $5-$10K in a really good boob job and a wig of long blonde hair and get a really cute accent and softer voice... Bobby might take more interest in you..(maybe Cat too

.. and I bet Giada and Rachel would dabble with a little wine)

Nah, it's all good. A quick Google search for SmokeInDaEye yields 11K results. I'm just pissed that the freaking vegan girl who doesn't cook a damn thing is somehow in the running for a few $K. Whatever. I still challenge Bobby or any of them to step into my backyard and just cook.

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

Why dont you come up with a recipe and have somebody else do it, maybe your wife?

I did consider that today. I'm working on a burger recipe that may come from "christine canwald"

Pantseatflyer · 06-18-2009, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeInDaEye

Thats great advice moving forward, Brian, though I've tried the no hat hat and glasses approach. My biggest problem is that I need to maximize each video shoot so not having my logo in there is tough. And I know food network is going to screw me constantly so I shoot video so its applicable to hundreds of foreign websites.

That said, I need to change something when this vegan woman who met absolutely none of the five criteria is a finalist. Seems like I wasted my time for something pre-determined.

I feel for you brother. You recipe was 'hands down' better than the vegan chick.

Political correctness, talking heads and greenhouse gas is the new 'theme' of the Food Network. I'm so sick of it. I have to come here to the Brethren Forum just to maintain my gastronomic sanity.

Be yourself. Keep on doing what you enjoy. When all the PETA, Veggie heads' dishes are pushed over to the compost pile, the "Que" is still SMOKIN'!!

Don't let them suck the FUN out of what you love to do... Cookin' up the QUE!

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 10:42 PM

Should I stop wearing Bobby's Iron Chef jacket around?

Harmening · 06-18-2009, 10:52 PM

What about a video with girls in bikinis? That seems to sell quite well these days. Maybe you didn't provide enough "flair".

Sledneck · 06-18-2009, 10:55 PM

what about doing it with use of puppets?

SmokeInDaEye · 06-18-2009, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

what about doing it with use of puppets?

Obviously you didn;t see my last video. Adam Puppet Lang stole the show.

BBQchef33 · 06-18-2009, 11:04 PM

I would start with loosing the logo. I learned long ago that media wont do anything they would see as free advertising or promotion. If that was on a tee shirt and you were on camera, they would blur it out.

06-18-2009, 09:49 PM	#1
SmokeInDaEye Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-13-06 Location: Germantown, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Food Network, Why Do I Try? As some of you know, I have had an ongoing battle with the Food Network. I have created some videos for them that have been the most viewed and most rated on their site, yet ultimately they pick some actor to be on Grill It with Bobby Flay or other show. Most recently they had a Washington State wine contest from which 20 of the 100 videos would be opened for public voting. I created an original recipe from scratch, figured out how to cook it on the grill and filmed it all by hand. Am I just being pissy or am I being singled out? http://www.ireport.com/docs... versus http://tinyurl.com/kpww9k ? Seriously? I keep thinking that I can go on with a brethren t-shirt, talk about what bbq really is, and make the network a little more interesting but its getting a little tiring. Why try? __________________ [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com"]http://www.SmokeInDaEye.com[/URL] Gen II Komodo Kamado, Pit Barrel Cooker, 3x 18.5" WSMs, 22.5" WSM, modified 18.5" Weber Kettle, 22.5" Weber Kettle circa 1960ish, Weber One Touch Platinum, copper Weber Smokey Joe, La Caja China, Bubba Keg, Bodom Picnic Grill, Weber Genesis

06-18-2009, 10:04 PM	#2
SmokeInDaEye Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-13-06 Location: Germantown, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just so folks know, here's the criteria used to select the second video over mine. I'm tired of wasting my time. How well the Washington State ingredient(s) was used How well the recipe pairs with the Columbia Crest Grand Estates wine that served as its inspiration Overall quality of recipe Originality How well the dish was showcased in the video __________________ [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com"]http://www.SmokeInDaEye.com[/URL] Gen II Komodo Kamado, Pit Barrel Cooker, 3x 18.5" WSMs, 22.5" WSM, modified 18.5" Weber Kettle, 22.5" Weber Kettle circa 1960ish, Weber One Touch Platinum, copper Weber Smokey Joe, La Caja China, Bubba Keg, Bodom Picnic Grill, Weber Genesis

06-18-2009, 10:08 PM	#3
swamprb somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-27-06 Location: Bothell WA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lose the hat, shades and SIDE banner. Don't try to show Bobby Flay up or "talk about what BBQ really is", because it would actually be interesting! The audience is not Brethren that the Food Network is targeting, you do great stuff, and we know it, so you may have to actaully "dumb down to the audience". __________________ Brian - Left Hand Smoke BBQ PNWBA 2010 Team of the Year BGE's/WSM's/BWS Gater/BDS Clones/Weber Performer w EZ-Que/Cajun Bandit/Rib-O-Lator Test Pilot/La Caja China/BBQ Guru/Weber 1000 RK Drum Coffee Roaster Follow Left Hand Smoke on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-H...462391?sk=wall KCBS CBJ/PNWBA CBJ www.pnwba.com

06-18-2009, 10:20 PM	#5
MilitantSquatter Moderator Join Date: 09-17-05 Location: soon to be in Mooresville, NC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Doubt your being singled out... Sure it's frustrating.. but what's the motivation to keep submitting entries ? If your having fun.. do it for that reason.. or change it up a bit and make some videos for grilling and BBQ and begin trying to market them online and through the online food community. This way you continue to put your love of cooking and video making together to help others improve. If you really wanna win.. I think you should invest $5-$10K in a really good boob job and a wig of long blonde hair and get a really cute accent and softer voice... Bobby might take more interest in you..(maybe Cat too .. and I bet Giada and Rachel would dabble with a little wine) __________________ Vinny 22" WSM & Kettle Former owner: Jambo, Klose BYC, Med. Spicewine, Pitts & Spitts, XL & (2) Med. BGE's, (2) 18" WSM's

06-18-2009, 10:29 PM	#7
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why dont you come up with a recipe and have somebody else do it, maybe your wife? __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

06-18-2009, 10:10 PM	#4
Redwingsfn31 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 04-13-08 Location: Troy, Ohio Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The one thing I have learned about food network, is there has definately been a switch in priorities. It happened back in about 2002. The network really moved the focus away from the food, and toward personalities. They slowly and sytematically got rid of alot of good chefs, and replaced them with talking heads. They wanted to sell merchandise and diversify their revenu streams and this was their way of doing it. I to this day dont like and rarely watch the channel any more.

06-18-2009, 10:42 PM	#11
SmokeInDaEye Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-13-06 Location: Germantown, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Should I stop wearing Bobby's Iron Chef jacket around? __________________ [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com"]http://www.SmokeInDaEye.com[/URL] Gen II Komodo Kamado, Pit Barrel Cooker, 3x 18.5" WSMs, 22.5" WSM, modified 18.5" Weber Kettle, 22.5" Weber Kettle circa 1960ish, Weber One Touch Platinum, copper Weber Smokey Joe, La Caja China, Bubba Keg, Bodom Picnic Grill, Weber Genesis

06-18-2009, 10:52 PM	#12
Harmening On the road to being a farker Join Date: 04-11-07 Location: West Okoboji, IA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What about a video with girls in bikinis? That seems to sell quite well these days. Maybe you didn't provide enough "flair".

06-18-2009, 10:55 PM	#13
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what about doing it with use of puppets? __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

06-18-2009, 11:04 PM	#15
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Downloads: 10 Uploads: 4	I would start with loosing the logo. I learned long ago that media wont do anything they would see as free advertising or promotion. If that was on a tee shirt and you were on camera, they would blur it out. __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Klose built MoAB (Mother of All Banderas) passed on to Big Dog, 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 1 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 1 Pit Barrel Cooker, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

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