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Old 05-14-2009, 08:51 AM   #1
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I have an old Vermont Castings Natural Gas grill. Never liked it. I've thought about modifying it to have an outboard smoke box attached.

See, I'd like really high BTU to get the flame right under the meat to sear at high temp. The Natural Gas burners can accomodate that. I'd also like to have the smoke box to get that flavor while I'm grilling.

I'd ALSO like to simply turn down the gas and let a piece of meat smoke for a few hours.

I have yet to find a quality grille or grille plans that does all of this...
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:21 AM   #2
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:25 AM   #3
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Yep, you have pretty well described a ceramic cooker. Big Green Egg, Primo or Grill Dome.

An additional benefit is how well ceramics cook in cold crappy weather, not that you have any there.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:28 AM   #4
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Ceramic is the way to go, low and slow, or really hot! but dont burn off the felt, its hard to get a replacement...
And very fuel efficient.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:40 AM   #5
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Well, I appreciate everyone's thoughts, but the Egg has no gas. What I'm contemplating is building a grill with 4-5 high output burners. Then an outboard smoke box. So I can quick grill on a variable temp gas, or add some smoke, or turn off heat and slow smoke
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:10 AM   #6
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I'm considering this unit - Chargriller Duo - full size gas grill on one side and charcoal grill / smoker on other side ( to use as smoker get the optional side mount firebox ) - tractor supply has these for $375+ and you can find a bit cheaper if you look around. May not be a UDS or WSM or BGE but for my use its perfect.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:14 AM   #7
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Hmmm. Thats a great pic. Thanks. If that smoker would vent through the grill side, I'd run and get one.

This has been my frustration. I don't think the unit I want exists
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:12 PM   #8
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I have an old Vermont Castings Natural Gas grill. Never liked it. I've thought about modifying it to have an outboard smoke box attached.

See, I'd like really high BTU to get the flame right under the meat to sear at high temp. The Natural Gas burners can accomodate that. I'd also like to have the smoke box to get that flavor while I'm grilling.

I'd ALSO like to simply turn down the gas and let a piece of meat smoke for a few hours.

I have yet to find a quality grille or grille plans that does all of this...
First of all, I don't think you want 'Natural Gas'. Check out the "Clean, Cheep, High BTU's" of propane (Alton Brown Mod)...

Correct me if I'm wrong but what you are saying is you want a gas grill that acts as an offset fire box to a smoker cooking chamber... Right?

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Ceramic is the way to go, low and slow, or really hot! but dont burn off the felt, its hard to get a replacement...
And very fuel efficient.
Rolf, if you need them let me know... 10 minutes from my house and they are not all that expensive... I could ship them over to ya....
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:16 PM   #9
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The problem I see with your concept is you will have two heat sources at once which will make low temperatures close to impossible. A clean burning charcoal fire will produce more than enough heat for low and slow.

I am guessing that is why you can't find what you seek.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:49 PM   #10
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Why not mount burners on the cooking side of an offset? You would have your direct flame and an attached woodbox for smoke.
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I love my Duo. A few simple mods and it works like a champ. It's really a good deal. I rarely use the gas side but it's nice to have. The side burner is a great coal starter if you do not have a weed burner.

Having said that...I really want an egg too.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:02 PM   #12
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My Perfect Grill Would Be...

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Old 05-14-2009, 10:48 PM   #13
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i agree
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BGE or any ceramic is the way to go. Haven't used my gasser in about 2 years.
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so you want smoke flavour and fast cook times?
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