My Perfect Grill Would Be...

TedW · 05-14-2009, 08:51 AM

I have an old Vermont Castings Natural Gas grill. Never liked it. I've thought about modifying it to have an outboard smoke box attached.

See, I'd like really high BTU to get the flame right under the meat to sear at high temp. The Natural Gas burners can accomodate that. I'd also like to have the smoke box to get that flavor while I'm grilling.

I'd ALSO like to simply turn down the gas and let a piece of meat smoke for a few hours.

I have yet to find a quality grille or grille plans that does all of this...

71-South · 05-14-2009, 09:21 AM

www.biggreenegg.com

You can't go wrong with a Big Green Egg.

HeSmellsLikeSmoke · 05-14-2009, 09:25 AM

Yep, you have pretty well described a ceramic cooker. Big Green Egg, Primo or Grill Dome.

An additional benefit is how well ceramics cook in cold crappy weather, not that you have any there.

rolf · 05-14-2009, 09:28 AM

Ceramic is the way to go, low and slow, or really hot! but dont burn off the felt, its hard to get a replacement...
And very fuel efficient.

TedW · 05-14-2009, 09:40 AM

Well, I appreciate everyone's thoughts, but the Egg has no gas. What I'm contemplating is building a grill with 4-5 high output burners. Then an outboard smoke box. So I can quick grill on a variable temp gas, or add some smoke, or turn off heat and slow smoke

igolf2 · 05-14-2009, 11:10 AM

I'm considering this unit - Chargriller Duo - full size gas grill on one side and charcoal grill / smoker on other side ( to use as smoker get the optional side mount firebox ) - tractor supply has these for $375+ and you can find a bit cheaper if you look around. May not be a UDS or WSM or BGE but for my use its perfect.

TedW · 05-14-2009, 11:14 AM

Hmmm. Thats a great pic. Thanks. If that smoker would vent through the grill side, I'd run and get one.

This has been my frustration. I don't think the unit I want exists

Divemaster · 05-14-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TedW

I have an old Vermont Castings Natural Gas grill. Never liked it. I've thought about modifying it to have an outboard smoke box attached.

See, I'd like really high BTU to get the flame right under the meat to sear at high temp. The Natural Gas burners can accomodate that. I'd also like to have the smoke box to get that flavor while I'm grilling.

I'd ALSO like to simply turn down the gas and let a piece of meat smoke for a few hours.

I have yet to find a quality grille or grille plans that does all of this...

First of all, I don't think you want 'Natural Gas'. Check out the "Clean, Cheep, High BTU's" of propane (Alton Brown Mod)...

Correct me if I'm wrong but what you are saying is you want a gas grill that acts as an offset fire box to a smoker cooking chamber... Right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolf

Ceramic is the way to go, low and slow, or really hot! but dont burn off the felt, its hard to get a replacement...
And very fuel efficient.

Rolf, if you need them let me know... 10 minutes from my house and they are not all that expensive... I could ship them over to ya....

HeSmellsLikeSmoke · 05-14-2009, 04:16 PM

The problem I see with your concept is you will have two heat sources at once which will make low temperatures close to impossible. A clean burning charcoal fire will produce more than enough heat for low and slow.

I am guessing that is why you can't find what you seek.

smooookin · 05-14-2009, 07:49 PM

Why not mount burners on the cooking side of an offset? You would have your direct flame and an attached woodbox for smoke.

Diver · 05-14-2009, 08:38 PM

I love my Duo. A few simple mods and it works like a champ. It's really a good deal. I rarely use the gas side but it's nice to have. The side burner is a great coal starter if you do not have a weed burner.

Having said that...I really want an egg too.

JD McGee · 05-14-2009, 09:02 PM

My Perfect Grill Would Be...

...IS...a BGE!

OUT OF ORDER · 05-14-2009, 10:48 PM

i agree

snoqualmiesmoker · 05-14-2009, 10:52 PM

BGE or any ceramic is the way to go. Haven't used my gasser in about 2 years.

deathamphetamine · 05-14-2009, 11:50 PM

so you want smoke flavour and fast cook times?

05-14-2009, 08:51 AM	#1
TedW is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-12-09 Location: Michigan Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My Perfect Grill Would Be... I have an old Vermont Castings Natural Gas grill. Never liked it. I've thought about modifying it to have an outboard smoke box attached. See, I'd like really high BTU to get the flame right under the meat to sear at high temp. The Natural Gas burners can accomodate that. I'd also like to have the smoke box to get that flavor while I'm grilling. I'd ALSO like to simply turn down the gas and let a piece of meat smoke for a few hours. I have yet to find a quality grille or grille plans that does all of this...

05-14-2009, 09:21 AM	#2
71-South is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 05-02-08 Location: Harrisonville, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	www.biggreenegg.com You can't go wrong with a Big Green Egg. __________________ UDS / Mini WSM --- "Q or Q not. There is no try." -YodaQ Cass Lodge #147 AF&AM Harrisonville, Missouri

05-14-2009, 09:25 AM	#3
HeSmellsLikeSmoke somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-02-07 Location: Warren, Vermont Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yep, you have pretty well described a ceramic cooker. Big Green Egg, Primo or Grill Dome. An additional benefit is how well ceramics cook in cold crappy weather, not that you have any there. __________________ Jim - Another transplanted Texan Former KCBS CBJ Large and Medium Big Green Eggs , Black 18.5" WSM, Blue Weber Performer - Stainless, Green Weber OTG Kettle , Brinkmann SnP Pro, and a Stainless UDS. One retired Portable Kitchen grill. Red Thermapen, Maverick ET-73, EdgePro Apex Sharpener. Avatar is the original 1951 Weber Kettle

05-14-2009, 09:28 AM	#4
rolf Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 03-23-09 Location: Nierstein, Germany Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ceramic is the way to go, low and slow, or really hot! but dont burn off the felt, its hard to get a replacement... And very fuel efficient. __________________ Weber 22.5 OT-silver with cast iron grate [url]www.cast-iron-grate.com[/url] Kamado for low and slow, and baking. Smokey joe for trips.

05-14-2009, 11:10 AM	#6
igolf2 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-14-08 Location: Huntsburg, Ohio Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm considering this unit - Chargriller Duo - full size gas grill on one side and charcoal grill / smoker on other side ( to use as smoker get the optional side mount firebox ) - tractor supply has these for $375+ and you can find a bit cheaper if you look around. May not be a UDS or WSM or BGE but for my use its perfect. __________________ Big Block Propane Stok Quattro Grill Homemade piggy roaster / spit Turkey Fryer / Clam Steamer UDS Moink Certified!

05-14-2009, 09:40 AM	#5
TedW is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-12-09 Location: Michigan Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, I appreciate everyone's thoughts, but the Egg has no gas. What I'm contemplating is building a grill with 4-5 high output burners. Then an outboard smoke box. So I can quick grill on a variable temp gas, or add some smoke, or turn off heat and slow smoke

05-14-2009, 11:14 AM	#7
TedW is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-12-09 Location: Michigan Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hmmm. Thats a great pic. Thanks. If that smoker would vent through the grill side, I'd run and get one. This has been my frustration. I don't think the unit I want exists

05-14-2009, 04:16 PM	#9
HeSmellsLikeSmoke somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-02-07 Location: Warren, Vermont Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The problem I see with your concept is you will have two heat sources at once which will make low temperatures close to impossible. A clean burning charcoal fire will produce more than enough heat for low and slow. I am guessing that is why you can't find what you seek. __________________ Jim - Another transplanted Texan Former KCBS CBJ Large and Medium Big Green Eggs , Black 18.5" WSM, Blue Weber Performer - Stainless, Green Weber OTG Kettle , Brinkmann SnP Pro, and a Stainless UDS. One retired Portable Kitchen grill. Red Thermapen, Maverick ET-73, EdgePro Apex Sharpener. Avatar is the original 1951 Weber Kettle

05-14-2009, 07:49 PM	#10
smooookin is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-04-07 Location: KC Mo. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why not mount burners on the cooking side of an offset? You would have your direct flame and an attached woodbox for smoke. __________________ "Foil is a BBQ mans duct tape" my wife.

05-14-2009, 08:38 PM	#11
Diver Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 03-12-09 Location: Currituck NC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I love my Duo. A few simple mods and it works like a champ. It's really a good deal. I rarely use the gas side but it's nice to have. The side burner is a great coal starter if you do not have a weed burner. Having said that...I really want an egg too.

05-14-2009, 09:02 PM	#12
JD McGee somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 06-28-07 Location: Duvall, WA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My Perfect Grill Would Be... ...IS...a BGE! __________________ Wine Country "Q" Competition BBQ

05-14-2009, 10:48 PM	#13
OUT OF ORDER Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 06-12-08 Location: azle ,tx Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i agree __________________ In the words of the late great Col. Sanders "im to drunk to taste this chicken" LARGE BGE [SIZE=2]smokey joe[/SIZE] 12" homade offset 22 1/2 webber

05-14-2009, 10:52 PM	#14
snoqualmiesmoker is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-01-04 Location: Snoqualmie, wa Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	BGE or any ceramic is the way to go. Haven't used my gasser in about 2 years. __________________ Large Big Green Egg Weber Kettle Blue 22 Weber Smokey Joe Weber Gold Genesis (Sadly, this did not come with a long keyboard solo) 1 ~ 3-year old Princess 1 ~ 1-year old Caveman 1 Chihuahua Wife [url]http://jimmysbigegg.blogspot.com/[/url]

05-14-2009, 11:50 PM	#15
deathamphetamine is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 03-29-09 Location: Northern Arctic Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	so you want smoke flavour and fast cook times? __________________ I Eat Burgers for Breakfast

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