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Old 04-14-2009, 05:03 PM   #1
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I have seen a few guys wrap their brisket in saran wrap and then foil before the cooler..Have any of you guys done this and if so how were the results?
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:18 PM   #2
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I do that on all my butts and briskets and it seems to help with keeping the meat moist.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:16 PM   #3
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I do this as well. And I always laugh at myself when doing so. Seems to me wrapping in moisture is a bit like 'steaming' - right? The temp of the cooker is around 225F and water boils at 212F right? So when I wrap up my ribs, shoulder or roast in saran wrap (better quality stuff won't get too hot and melt at these lower temps) I just smile at all those fellas who turn red-in-the-face when proclaiming that 'boiled ribs ain't barbeque.'

I'm not arguing with them. I'm just say'n.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:18 PM   #4
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Doesn't this mess up the bark?
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:37 PM   #5
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-So when I wrap up my ribs, shoulder or roast in saran wrap (better quality stuff won't get too hot and melt at these lower temps) -
I've thought about using Saran wrap, but was also concerned if the wrap would melt, or if not melt, just release some plasticizers or some nasty volatiles.

Anyone no the details on this?

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Old 04-14-2009, 06:37 PM   #6
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Doesn't this mess up the bark?
Yes, but when you don't have a heated holder then you don't have any other choice. You can always unwrap it and throw it back in the cooker to dry the bark out a bit.
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I received this in an email today:

Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins

Bottled water in your car is very dangerous!
On the Ellen show, Sheryl Crow said this is what caused her breast cancer. It has been identified as the most common cause of the high levels of dioxin in breast cancer tissue.
Sheryl Crow's oncologist told her:
Womenshould not drink bottled water that has been left in a car. The heat reacts with the chemicals in the plastic of the bottle which releases dioxin into the water. Dioxin is a toxin increasingly found in breast cancer tissue. So please be careful and do not drink bottled water that has been left in a car. Pass this on to all the women in your life.
This information is the kind we need to know that just might save us! Use a stainless steel canteen or a glass bottle instead of plastic!
LET EVERYONE WHO HAS A WIFE / GIRLFRIEND / DAUGHTER KNOW PLEASE!

This information is also being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
No plastic containers in microwave.
No water bottles in freezer.
No plastic wrap in microwave.
A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer.
Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plasticbottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.

Recently, Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital, was on a TV program to explain this health hazard.
He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers.
This especially applies to foods that contain fat.
He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastic releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body.
Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin.
So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else.
Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.
He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.
Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

This is an article that should be sent to anyone important in your life!
I've seen in other threads about placing the brisket in a paper bag or wrapping with parchement paper (the bbq funk threads), seems safer to me.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:42 AM   #8
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Doesn't this mess up the bark?
Yup, but you can unwrap it and put it back on the cooker to firm it up.

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I've thought about using Saran wrap, but was also concerned if the wrap would melt, or if not melt, just release some plasticizers or some nasty volatiles.
Anyone no the details on this?
Thanks,
My brother uses Saran Wrap, or some wrap or another, and no, it don't melt at smoker temps...

I use oven bags instead before wrapping the butts in foil. I only do this with butts for pulled pork or beef roasts for bbq beef. My feeling is that it does a great job of conserving (saving) the natural juices of the meat. Then I mix that back into the meat once it's pulled, keeping the meet moist with it's natural flavors as opposed to mixing sauce in for those purposes.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:57 AM   #9
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:00 AM   #10
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I received this in an email today:

Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins

Bottled water in your car is very dangerous!
On the Ellen show, Sheryl Crow said this is what caused her breast cancer. It has been identified as the most common cause of the high levels of dioxin in breast cancer tissue.
Sheryl Crow's oncologist told her:
Womenshould not drink bottled water that has been left in a car. The heat reacts with the chemicals in the plastic of the bottle which releases dioxin into the water. Dioxin is a toxin increasingly found in breast cancer tissue. So please be careful and do not drink bottled water that has been left in a car. Pass this on to all the women in your life.
This information is the kind we need to know that just might save us! Use a stainless steel canteen or a glass bottle instead of plastic!
LET EVERYONE WHO HAS A WIFE / GIRLFRIEND / DAUGHTER KNOW PLEASE!

This information is also being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
No plastic containers in microwave.
No water bottles in freezer.
No plastic wrap in microwave.
A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer.
Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plasticbottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.

Recently, Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital, was on a TV program to explain this health hazard.
He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers.
This especially applies to foods that contain fat.
He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastic releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body.
Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin.
So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else.
Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.
He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.
Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

This is an article that should be sent to anyone important in your life!
I've seen in other threads about placing the brisket in a paper bag or wrapping with parchement paper (the bbq funk threads), seems safer to me.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/plasticbottles.asp

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cookplastic.asp

Just to clear some things up.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:13 AM   #11
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Yep: I recall it well. Also got into health aspects. No need to revist this further.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:22 AM   #12
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My bad, I usually go to Snopes when I get these kind of emails, didn't bother this time.
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Yep: I recall it well. Also got into health aspects. No need to revist this further.
Shall we move on to the Bandera Rotisserie Mod?

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Shall we move on to the Bandera Rotisserie Mod?

Anything but sand in the water pan mod
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I've thought about using Saran wrap, but was also concerned if the wrap would melt, or if not melt, just release some plasticizers or some nasty volatiles.

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