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Unread 12-25-2008, 10:46 AM   #1
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Default KCBS membership demographics by state

This was in the bullsheet. I think it is interesting.

KCBS membershp demographics by state

2008 Demographics
State # Members # CBJs # Contests State # Members # CBJs # Contests
Alabama 377 313 9 Washington 62 45 0
Alaska 5 0 0 West Virginia 54 48 1
Arizona 80 54 2 Wisconsin 218 176 6
Arkansas 130 90 5 Wyoming 29 27 2
California 291 199 6 Australia 2 1 0
Colorado 272 213 8 Canada 50 31 0
Connecticut 33 20 1 England 4 4 0
Delaware 38 34 1 Estonia 2 2 0
DC 8 7 1 Germany 1 1 0
Florida 359 303 5 Ireland 2 2 0
Georgia 391 298 8 Liechenstein 1 0 0
Hawaii 1 0 0 Mexico 1 1 0
Idaho 25 16 1 Netherlands 1 0 0
Illinois 448 334 14 Norway 1 0 0
Indiana 161 105 4 Switzerland 7 1 0
Iowa 367 316 12
Kansas 1,049 729 34 TOTALS 9,811 7,370 261
Kentucky 107 77 4 80% men
Louisiana 66 38 2 Other interesting facts
Maine 7 4 0 # Master Judges 288
Maryland 188 154 4 # Cert Table Captains 215
Massachusetts 131 116 1 Team names on file 3,689
Michigan 138 92 4 # Different Teams
Minnesota 186 137 5 entered in KCBS
Mississippi 113 88 7 sanctioned contests 4,495
Missouri 1,262 911 42
Montana 6 3 0
Nebraska 212 167 6
Nevada 37 25 1
New Hampshire 44 40 1
New Jersey 138 90 4
New Mexico 76 63 1
New York 331 269 5
North Carolina 245 168 8
North Dakota 38 29 1
Ohio 161 121 3
Oklahoma 312 251 9
Oregon 53 34 1
Pennsylvania 202 156 4
Rhode Island 17 15 0
South Carolina 190 134 5
South Dakota 53 42 2
Tennessee 580 454 16
Texas 107 50 0
Utah 92 86 2
Vermont 18 13 1
Virginia 231 173 2


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Unread 12-25-2008, 11:41 AM   #2
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Yea I was a lil surprised by some of the totals
Them North Easters are doing a good job in the numbers
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Let's have a round of applause for the one member in Hawaii! Is he/she a Brethren?
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Wow, I would never of thought California would have had that many members.
Good for us! We do know good BBQ out here, must be the 365 days of great weather.
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And now, in the witless number-crunching events:
I'll be interested to figure out each state's ratio of contests/members, and the average for the six-state area where we range as compared to other parts of the country.
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NY number 10!!


heres the numbers in Excel. Easier to read.
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Phil,

Small correction to the spreadsheet. NY has 7 contests next year not including Grilling only.

Rochester, Lake Placid, Boston, Troy, New Paltz, Buffalo and Sayville. and yes I mean Boston NY
These are the ones sanctioned already now that is not to say a few more might not pop up
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42 farken contests in Missouri.......

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Man, lots of members in OH, now we just have to work on MORE contests.....
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So this is proof that KCBS has grown beyond Kansas City? Not trying to stir anything up. Seems to me a lot of talk has been about how KCBS is not just about Kansas City, yet the KS and MO numbers seem to indicate otherwise. I'm personally good with it being more nationally focused. Do we have a change from previous year to measure against to show this growth? If not, then I guess this is the benchmark to set for measuring next years numbers against.
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Here's some numbers crunched, (thanks for the spreadsheet Phil) It seems the North East in general and New England specifically are way ahead in Certification and woefully underserved in contest oppertunities.


On the surface of these stats NE BBQ is far more difficult to win or place. And the KCBS needs to attend to cultivating organizers and contests.


Members/CBJ's/contest#'s

New England 250 208 4
New York 331 269 5
KCBS 9,811 7,370 261

% CBJ's
KCBS 75.1
NY 81.3
New England 83.2

# Members per contest

NY/NE 64.6
KCBS 37.6
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NY number 10!!


heres the numbers in Excel. Easier to read.

Actually NY is Number 9!

But who's counting?
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Here's some numbers crunched, (thanks for the spreadsheet Phil) It seems the North East in general and New England specifically are way ahead in Certification and woefully underserved in contest oppertunities.


On the surface of these stats NE BBQ is far more difficult to win or place. And the KCBS needs to attend to cultivating organizers and contests.


Members/CBJ's/contest#'s

New England 250 208 4
New York 331 269 5
KCBS 9,811 7,370 261

% CBJ's
KCBS 75.1
NY 81.3
New England 83.2

# Members per contest

NY/NE 64.6
KCBS 37.6
I don't think you can use # of members/contest to assess how hard/easy it is to win in a given area... Applying the total # of CBJ's into a % of total is not fair since it is very possibly that CBJ's are not the one's competing.

What KCBS doesn't show in these #'s is the breakdown of registered competition teams per state which is part of what would be needed to determine where the ideal concentration of contest locations should be. I would like to think demand would ultimately determine this.


As for regionalization - At first I thought it made sense, but the more i think about it I feel it just adds a level of unneeded bureacracy. There could be some small benefits but I don't see how it helps that much more. (Ex. if there are a member in 44 members in New Hampsire, if the nearest BOD member is in NY/NJ/CT as an example, how does that make any difference on the day to day or long term issues ?

I think it should ultimately go to who the most qualified candidates are, not a waterded down field based on zip code. Giving members more access to BOD meetings and also providing better forums for communication (like this BOD forum) will allow the members to get a better feel as to who has the best interests at heart regardless of home state.
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