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Unread 10-20-2008, 12:45 AM   #1
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Default Scores please.

back to basics..reworking some presentations.

Some of these are old presentations.. some new.. (and giving mista a chance at revenge.)

Scores please.








The big parsley leaf was trimmed off after the picture.






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Unread 10-20-2008, 03:35 AM   #2
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8675309

Or from top down
8-skin isnt perfect but the daisy effect is nice. Looks tasty.
6-some pieces are big others are small. Pic blurry, bet it was good.
6-wheres the meat
7-i love a porkchop
6-my boxes have looked like that. Not great.
7-better then average. Burnt ends kind of just thrown in.

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Chicken - 6/7
Chicken - 7/8
Ribs - 6
Pork - 7
Pork - 8/9
Brisket - 5/6

I thought the use of parsley as a garnish on the ribs and brisket really detracted from the appearance of the entry.
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Chicken - 8
Chicken - 9
Ribs - 7
Pork - 7
Pork - 8
Brisket - 7

I think that the first chicken would have done much better if the meat was more uniform. The second chicken makes me want to grab a piece.

The ribs are hidden

The pork looks good

The brisket is too busy - you have too much stuffed in there.
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In an attempt to do this just like a contest, I looked at each of them for about 5 seconds, decided on a score and also put in the first comments that came to mind.

8 - Middle piece looks rough at the bottom, skin drawn up on the piece at 9 o'clock, sauce looks good, just a couple of burned spots, garnish compliments. If they all looked like the top two and the one at 3 o'clock, I might be tempted to give it a 9.

7/8 - I'm sure it looked better in person. The glaze is off on a few pieces (one at top left compared to one at bottom right). Really like the full box. Thighs on the right bigger than ones on left. Few pieces of parsley sticking out.

6 - many burned spots, makes cuts look ragged, piece of loin across the top wasn't trimmed before cook and makes pieces uneven, ribs buried in garnish, garnish very distracting.

7 - every corner of box filled except lower left looks empty, different thicknesses, sauce marks on pieces

8 - makes me want to dig into it. Nice bark. Meat looks moist. Garnish compliments. If the meat chunks were cleaned up more (fat, dark specks), it would have gotten a 9 from me. What did taste and tenderness score on this one?

6 - like the color of the bark. Different thicknesses, pieces need to be cleaned up more (dark specks), burnt ends not placed very well. Garnish is all over the place and very distracting.
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Chicken - 7
Chicken - 8
Ribs - 6
Pork - 8
Pork - 6
Brisket - 8
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I have been going thru old picture boxes and looking at the evolution of my turn in boxes. Some of the stuff from my first boxes make u think.. WTF was I thinking. After this, i will start a thread of our WORST ever boxes. I got a bunch of those. :)

The 2 chickens were our AR chicken boxes this year. The first one got 888999. Dont know how the second one did. But the pieces were very nearly identical on the first one. Picture angle seems to be a bit misleading.

Ribs, I thought they were too hidden when I saw the picture. But that was our first contest in 2004, and it took first place.

The pork was AR pork boxes. Chunks got 778889. Sliced.. dont know yet.

Brisket was last year at ribfest. We got DQ'ed for being late. I liked the presentation. I dont sauce my brisket I just use the Aujus, thats what the specs are from. from you guys score, seems the DQ may have been better. :)
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The pork was AR pork boxes. Chunks got 778889. Sliced.. dont know yet.
Just out of curiousity, what were the T & T scores on those chunks? Were they as good as they looked?
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You better let Kim do the boxes at the Jack.......
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Chx 1 - 8
Chx 2 - 7 First arrangement and sauce were more appealing to me.
Ribs - 6 cuts look uneven and black spots took away from appearance
Pork 1 - 9 I love the look of the slices, the arrangement and they are sauced evenly.
Pork 2 - 8 I like all of the extra bark. You get a 4 for table appearnce though...
Brisket - 6 Burnt ends don't help. Garnish is all over the place. Slices spaced unevenly.
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You better let Kim do the boxes at the Jack.......
Guess what.....they have done just that. Hope I can do the job well!!! Andy keeps telling me that we just needed 1/2 point more in presentation to win the Royal. That's when I tell him to shove it. lol
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Guess what.....they have done just that. Hope I can do the job well!!! Andy keeps telling me that we just needed 1/2 point more in presentation to win the Royal. That's when I tell him to shove it. lol
And Kim can even say that in sign language - what talent!

How do you do your chicken skins, Phil?
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Guess what.....they have done just that. Hope I can do the job well!!! Andy keeps telling me that we just needed 1/2 point more in presentation to win the Royal. That's when I tell him to shove it. lol
T builds our boxes....and before we close the lid, I take a look through the viewfinder of the camera, looking for symmetry and placement. Once everything looks right, then we snap the picture and close the lid.

You'll do fine, and if Andy had scored a point higher on taste or tenderness in one of the 4 catagories, he wouldn't have had the chance to try to yank your chain about a 1/2 point in presentation!
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I don't know if the rest of you are looking at the same two pork boxes I am. I like the look of the second box much more than the first. I agree that if the chunks were cleaned up a bit it would easily be a 9. ( i would probably give it a 9 even if it weren't cleaned up) After seeing it i am hungry!

Edit- After re-reading this i realize it may have come out the wrong way. I am not saying the first box looks bad, or that anyone who likes it is wrong. It is just that the chunks looks far and away better to me. At least down here in GA, I have never heard of anyone scoring well with sliced either, not saying it doesn't happen, just that i have not heard of it. The other boxes look good too, it is just that second pork box looks GREAT!
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To all of you who have praised both pork box layouts ... Thank you

I think the slices look good but I am not a fan of sliced pork at all. Personally, I love the second box but I am biased. I think nice meaty chunks of money muscle represent the best things about pork shoulder and provide great texture. That pork gets stategically placed.. It's not just piled in.. It's like playing Tetris.


For the chicken, I think the othes on the team nailed both of them. I can't decide which I like better. I also like to see the chicken turned on a slight angle too as another option.

Phil - I think the layout is OK at best but the ribs themselves look a bit odd and it's throwing me off a bit. Seems a bit too busy. I realize it's an old box though.

Brisket - I like the fan idea better than what we were doing only because I think it's important to allow the judge to see the face of the slice, but it would need some work to tighten up the weak spots.
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