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Unread 09-29-2008, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default New UDS Idea

Started thinking about building another UDS this weekend. I would like to hear what everbody thinks about a new design. I was thinking about building a 55 gal. UDS inside of an 85 gal. drum. The in takes will go thru the 85 gal. into the 55 gal. The space in between the 55 and the 85 will be filled with sand to insulate the 55 gal drum. Just let me know your input on this.
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HEAVY DRUM!!! I hope yo have casters for it!!
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It's a good idea. I've thought about it too. However, sand isn't a good insulation material. All you need is the dead air space.
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HEAVY DRUM!!! I hope yo have casters for it!!
I know it will be heavy. I was also thinking of maybe some type of fiberglass insulation.
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Air gap might be sufficient.

Wonder if a water heater blanket would fit?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_wool

Yeh, any or that will work; until it gets wet

Trust me, the dead air space is more than sufficent. It is superior.
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Go for it! Personally I don't feel it's necessary, but what the hell do I know?







This was my first drum and it held steady temps for almost 16 hours in freezing conditions.
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If a plain UDS will hold 225* for 14 hours in snow I have nothing to worry about.
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I'd build a small and a big instead
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I'd build a small and a big instead
Thinking about that too. I held 225* for over 15 hours this past weekend. I LOVE my UDS. Waiting to make 2 more.
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Buy a welding blanket from Harbor Freight Tools...or some other cheapo. It is good to 1000 degrees. Even here in SoCal, I lay it over the food section of my BarBChef offset. It helps keep the temperature even and might reduce fuel usage. It would be relatively easy to make a jacket out of it for your drum...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=41506
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We talked about this before.
Just use a donor barrel split down the side with the top and bottom cut off for the outside. Wrap the insulation around the first one then wrap the split barrel around the insulation.
This is a project I am working on.
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Buy a welding blanket from Harbor Freight Tools...or some other cheapo. It is good to 1000 degrees. Even here in SoCal, I lay it over the food section of my BarBChef offset. It helps keep the temperature even and might reduce fuel usage. It would be relatively easy to make a jacket out of it for your drum...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=41506
One small bit of advice... them welding blankets from harbor freight will not withstand a deflected blast from a weedburner. Don't ask me why I know this....
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My UKS held 225*F this last weekend both Sat and Sun for 16 hours and when I shut it down, it still had a bunch of coals! I will have to run it till it burns out sometime so I can figure out the max-runtime.
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One small bit of advice... them welding blankets from harbor freight will not withstand a deflected blast from a weed burner. Don't ask me why I know this....
A propane torch gets to 1300 - 1600.. The weed burner averages 1200 according the the quick Google search I did.
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