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Unread 09-11-2008, 09:44 PM   #1
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Does anyone of a link to an excel spreadsheet used for KCBS scoring? Where I can enter the team names and scores and have it tabulate the totals and rankings. We did a small contest on Labor Day and got the results in the mail today. Its all jacked up. One of our Brethern (BBQ Council)set a new scoring record in pork loin with a score of 40.4532 in fact he got two of them. A 999 should equal 36, I got two of tehm in ribs and they were scored 35.5027. I don't want to embarass the group running the contest, but would like to provide them with an acurate scoring system.
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Are you sure you understand how KCBS scoring works?

The scores are weighted - each attribute is multiplied by a different number to reach the total perfect score. The factors are explained in the KCBS rules. You can get a copy here: http://www.kcbs.us/pdf/2008RulesAndRegulations.pdf
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My math may be a little off here but I thought three 9's equalled 27! Must be the new math and the inflation factor factored in to the formula
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spoken like a true accountant....
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Maybe this will help you Don.
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Are you sure you understand how KCBS scoring works?

The scores are weighted - each attribute is multiplied by a different number to reach the total perfect score. The factors are explained in the KCBS rules. You can get a copy here: http://www.kcbs.us/pdf/2008RulesAndRegulations.pdf
Thanks for posting that. I've been scratching my head lately trying to figure out how the scores can go out to 4 decimal points. Now I understand.

Taste 2.2858
Tenderness 1.1428
Appearance .5714

Total 3.0000

We lost a grand championship in Madison last month by .0006 of a point and last weekend missed fifth in pork by .0002. It just shows you how competitive these contests have become and how every little detail counts.

Sorry if I came of as a smart a$$ in my previous post. Just geeky accounting humour that I couldn't resist!
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Maybe you should let your brother do all the math, he seems pretty good at it...:-)
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Are you sure you understand how KCBS scoring works?

The scores are weighted - each attribute is multiplied by a different number to reach the total perfect score. The factors are explained in the KCBS rules. You can get a copy here: http://www.kcbs.us/pdf/2008RulesAndRegulations.pdf

Yes, I do. Are you sure you read my post correctly. I cooked the contest and the organizers had no idea how the scoring worked. I simply want to provide them with a spread sheet to help them out. BBQ Council understood the request and provided what I am looking for, not an explaination of the rules. So next time I need a copy of the KCBS rules, I'll get in contact with you.
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Ray,

Thanks for your help with this. That must have been some awesome loin to score in the 40's. I called the contest organizer last night, she had no idea that the scores were all wrong. She kept saying that she had the formulas on a spreadsheet so they must be right. Finally I got her to agree that marks of 999 will score a 36 and that is the max. So when I pointed out your 2 40's she finally realized something was wrong. Did you get your results in the mail?
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Regardless of how someone understands the score, a 36 is as good as you can get. How did Ray get a 40??? Maybe *I* misunderstood the post...
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Ray,

Thanks for your help with this. That must have been some awesome loin to score in the 40's. I called the contest organizer last night, she had no idea that the scores were all wrong. She kept saying that she had the formulas on a spreadsheet so they must be right. Finally I got her to agree that marks of 999 will score a 36 and that is the max. So when I pointed out your 2 40's she finally realized something was wrong. Did you get your results in the mail?
I thought is was awsome! But maybe not that good.

I calculated my scores. They're pretty crappy if you ask me, but I'm not giving my winnings back.


Chicken - 165.1428
Ribs - 155.9998
Loin - 161.7142
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Regardless of how someone understands the score, a 36 is as good as you can get. How did Ray get a 40??? Maybe *I* misunderstood the post...

I'm just that good Jeff..
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Regardless of how someone understands the score, a 36 is as good as you can get. How did Ray get a 40??? Maybe *I* misunderstood the post...

Ok obviously, my post is not as clear as I thought it was.

My daughter and I cooked I one day first time contest.

The contest organizers built there own spreadsheet for scoring.

They awarded the first three places in each category at the contest.

They mailed the results out to the teams.

On ribs I got marks of 999(twice) and they scored it as 35.5something.

In the pork loin category another team(Ray) had two scores in the 40.something.

That is the point I am trying to make, its not possible. They have flaws in the scoring spreadsheet they used.

I just want to help them, by getting them a correct version so they can redo the results correctly. I don't care what they do about the awards they handed out. I would just like to see how results turn out with correct scoring.

I hope this helps explain.
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Just curious, but why do you think you should share KCBS scoring with a non sanctioned contest?
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Just curious, but why do you think you should share KCBS scoring with a non sanctioned contest?
A very fair question.
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